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  • Tob
    Roadie
    • Aug 2011
    • 120

    We have read "arguing" - "focusing" with "building 7" occurred after such. Audio of explosion looks like 8 "seconds" - one "small" explosion then, later, one "big" one. It could be their plane "hit" then one larger "basement" explosion, or maybe explosion within "basement" then "hit" from plane "seconds" later. Maybe such video is "diversionary" - one other appears with "time-differential" within a "second" or different sound "hits" that have been very near each other.

    "U.S." force, if "setting" fires, sending pulse-weather (with beam verification, in picture form, inside what became "hurricane" formation - 2005), sending snipers, viruses - could be expressing "murder" with "terrorizing" from such group. Many beings have been reported to have "died" after such. We, The People, have not been "theirs" - why "think" such? Such is "propaganda" - "U.S." force wishes to "shock" minds. We know there was "plan" realizing their "Federal Emergency Management Agency" manual cover that we may review.

    Band covers, movie cover, different graphic images, media, reveal repeating pattern, with money with graphic design that may be revealed to depict buildings - "towers" - "burning" (thank you, everyone, with your presenting discovery that we may review).

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    • chefcraig
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Apr 2004
      • 12172

      Originally posted by Seshmeister
      We need a 'No Thanks' button
      We already have one. It's called the ignore feature.









      “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
      ― Stephen Hawking

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35755

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        • Va Beach VH Fan
          ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
          • Dec 2003
          • 17913

          Hey, nice smilies !!
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          • Seshmeister
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Oct 2003
            • 35755

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            • Seshmeister
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Oct 2003
              • 35755

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35755

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                • Seshmeister
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Oct 2003
                  • 35755

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                  • Seshmeister
                    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                    • Oct 2003
                    • 35755

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                    • binnie
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • May 2006
                      • 19145

                      Cheers for these Sesh.
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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 59650

                        September 9, 2011

                        New evidence links Saudi Arabia to 9/11 hijackers: Graham
                        By Stephen Nohlgren and Susan Taylor Martin

                        The young couple living in Sarasota had ties to the hijackers. Now, former Sen. Bob Graham wants them investigated.

                        SARASOTA - Weeks after terrorists brought down the World Trade Center, FBI agents swarmed into a Sarasota gated community to investigate the mysterious disappearance of a wealthy young Saudi couple who apparently had ties to some of the hijackers.

                        The couple and their two children abandoned their home abruptly, just a week or so before Sept. 11, leaving behind cars, furniture and food on countertops.

                        According to one published report, the FBI discovered phone calls between the house and at least two of the hijackers and several other terrorism suspects stretching back a year.

                        Yet until a Fort Lauderdale website reported the news this week, no mention of the couple has ever appeared publicly - not in the Sept. 11 commission report, nor in FBI briefings to congressional investigators, former Florida Sen. Bob Graham said Friday.

                        Graham called on President Barack Obama to reopen the case.

                        "This is the most important thing about 9/11 to surface in the last seven or eight years,'' Graham told the St. Petersburg Times. "It's very important for the White House to take control of this situation. The key umbrella question is: What was the full extent of Saudi involvement prior to 9/11 and why did the U.S. administration cover this up?''

                        The Sarasota revelations parallel earlier information about a Saudi government employee who had lived in California for years, Graham said. That man, Omar al-Bayoumi, had paid for a San Diego apartment for two of the hijackers, funneled them money and then left the United States in July 2011.

                        Graham thinks Bayoumi and the Sarasota husband and wife, as well as her wealthy father could have helped form a shadow support system for the hijackers.

                        "These 19 people did not play out this plot as lone wolves,'' Graham said. "The chances that 19 people, most of whom had never been in the U.S., who did not speak English, and most of whom did not know each other, could have completed training, practiced and executed such a complicated plot defies common sense.''

                        The current administration should re-examine whether hijackers who stayed in New Jersey, Virginia and other U.S. cities also had secret Saudi supporters.

                        One Saudi living in America before Sept. 11 was Esam Ghazzawi, a financier and interior designer, who had built "a gigantic house'' on two waterfront lots on Longboat Key, according to former neighbor Betty Blair.

                        "I think he sent his kids to camp here, and that's why he'd come in the summers,'' she recalled on Friday.

                        In 1995, Ghazzawi and his American wife, Debra, paid $350,000 for a home in Prestancia, a lush gated community in south Sarasota.

                        Their daughter Anoud moved in, along with her husband, Abdulazzi al-Hiijjii, and their twin babies, neighbors said.

                        Abdulazzi appeared to be in his 20s, Anoud even younger, said neighbor Tom DiBello, who now lives in Fort Lauderdale. Abdulazzi said he was a student. Anoud was very religious.

                        "He would come over for a cigarette and a drink and to get away from that praying every two hours,'' DiBello said

                        The couple's house was elaborately furnished, with Persian rugs, statues and over-sized furniture. The wife's family supposedly had royal connections.

                        "He said his wife's father was friends with the prince or king or something,'' DiBello said.

                        Another neighbor, Patrick Gallagher, said he never saw Anoud in three years. Gallagher had only one contact with Abdulazzi - when he helped the Arab man fix his sprinkler system.

                        Then on Labor Day weekend 2001, Gallagher noticed "an incredible amount of trash'' piled in front of the al-Hiijjii home.

                        He asked one of the association directors, "What the hell is that trash doing there? There won't be any pickup until Tuesday or Wednesday.

                        "She said, 'They went back to Saudi Arabia and said they weren't ever coming back.' ''

                        Gallagher found it strange that a car was left in the driveway and that the house was not for sale.

                        He grew more suspicious a few days after Sept. 11 when it turned out that two of the hijackers had trained at a Venice flight school just 14 miles away. So Gallagher went on the FBI's website to report what he had seen.

                        What happened next comes from BrowardBulldog.org, a nonprofit investigative website in Fort Lauderdale that broke the Sarasota story this week, along with Irish journalist Anthony Summers, whose book The Eleventh Day: The full story of 9/11 and Osama bin Laden, is due out next month.

                        Several weeks after Gallagher's tip, FBI agents arrived at Prestancia and discovered that guard gate logs of vehicle tags showed the al-Hiijjiis had received important visitors. A car owned by Sept. 11 hijacker Mohamed Atta had gone through. Driver's license information indicated that Atta and fellow hijacker Ziad Jarrah were in the car.

                        Phone records from the al-Hiijjiis' home contained calls to Atta, hijacker Marwan al-Shehhi and other terrorist suspects.

                        BrowardBulldog.org attributed this information to Larry Berberich, then a consultant for the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office who also oversaw security at Prestancia, and an unnamed "counterterrorism agent'' who had worked the case.

                        Both entered the abandoned al-Hiijjii house. "There was mail on the table, dirty diapers in one of the bathrooms and all the toiletries still in place . . . all their clothes hanging in the closet,'' BrowardBulldog.org reported.

                        Berberich could not be reached for comment Friday.

                        The counterterrorism agent said the FBI tracked the couple's departure. They left the United States along with her father, Esam Ghazzawi, and ended up in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

                        According to BrowardBulldog.org, the counterterrorism agent said Ghazzawi and Abdulazzi Hiijii were both on the FBI's watch list before Sept. 11.

                        The house stayed vacant until it was sold in 2003.

                        Summers, the Irish author, recently stumbled across the Sarasota story while researching his book, said Graham, who has known Summers for years. Summers joined forces with BrowardBulldog.org because he is friends with editor Dan Christensen, Christensen said.

                        Graham, who co-chaired the joint congressional committee that investigated the Sept. 11 attacks, noted that the FBI heavily redacted portions of the committee's report that dealt with the extent of Saudi involvement.

                        Graham said he did not know why the FBI kept information about the Sarasota couple close to the vest. But he has a theory:

                        "The administration was so focused on avoiding a second attack that they decided they could not run the risk of irritating the Saudis and this was the results of that.''

                        Neither the FBI nor Justice Department responded Friday to a request for comment.

                        Times researcher Carolyn Edds contributed to this report.

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                        • Seshmeister
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 35755

                          15 of the 19 attackers were Saudis, they were financed by Saudis, they said the reason they did it was because of US troops being in Saudi Arabia, the terrorist training camps and fundamentalist training schools in Pakistan are funded by Saudi's.

                          It's fair to say that there is plenty to connect Saudi Arabia with 9-11.

                          If it's traditional in Saudi Arabia for men to hold hands when they are friends but strongly against tradition in the West to do so why does an American president have to go with the Saudi tradition when their corrupt, totalitarian dictator visits?

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 59650

                            Radio & TV host Thom Hartmann will be live Sunday 4-7 PM ET with a Special 9/11 call-in show simulcasted jointly by Sirius/XM Radio & FreeSpeech TV. What's the legacy of 9/11? You can call into the show @ (866) 987-THOM.

                            Live video stream also available at http://www.thomhartmann.com/
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                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • PETE'S BROTHER
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 12678

                              Originally posted by Unchainme
                              Fuck it

                              It wasn't al qaeda, bush or shadowy gov't operatives, we all know the real "man" behind it was this guy:

                              he chose to market a t-shirt with an image of his red ass bent over with a black cock goin' thru it? or is that the space probe?
                              Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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                              • FORD
                                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                                • Jan 2004
                                • 59650

                                Must have been his Velveetareetas guitarist Vic Johnson......

                                Eat Us And Smile

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                                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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