Herman Cain sings Lennon & Was "Framed"

[FORD]

Well, pizza was originally from Sicily, so if anyone should know how to make it right, it would be the mob.

[Seshmeister]

I think usually the honor is given to Naples.

I went there for a week once and during my stay had 8 pizzas from 8 different restaurants, all amazing.

Back when I was young enough to get away with that kind of thing...

Naples is famous for it's mob but it's the Camorra rather than the mafia, a scary bunch of people.

In fact I wouldn't recommend Naples for casual tourists it's pretty edgy.

[FORD]

Looks like Pizza Guy really is a John Lennon fan after all! He's now saying that the poor would pay nothing with his fucked up "tax" plan and renaming it "9-0-9"

Move over once, move over twice.
Come on Herman don't be cold as ice.......

[FORD]

It's official: Herman Cain is a KOCH whore!

Not an Employee? Herman Cain Had Mailing and Email Addresses at Koch's Americans For Prosperity HQ
By Adele M. Stan, AlterNet
Posted on October 21, 2011, Printed on October 21, 2011



As the New Yorker's Jane Mayer wrote earlier this week, members of Herman Cain's campaign staff are loath to discuss his longstanding ties to Americans for Prosperity and the Americans for Prosperity Foundation, the organizing groups founded by billionaire David Koch, about whom Mayer famously wrote a comprehensive profile last year. AlterNet began reporting on Cain's ties to Koch last June, after Cain launched his presidential campaign.

In Mayer's 2010 exposé, "Covert Operations," she detailed the network of right-wing think tanks and organizations funded by David Koch and his brother Charles, principals in Koch Industries, the second-largest privately held company in the United States, according to Forbes.

Now, Mayer has turned her gaze to the ties between Koch and Cain, seeking to find out how much Cain earned from Americans for Prosperity and its foundation, and whether or not Cain has ever been considered an employee of either entity. She writes:

Earlier this week, I asked J. D. Gordon, communications director for Cain’s campaign, whether Cain was an employee of Americans for Prosperity. “No,” he said, “He’s not an employee.” I noted that I’d seen Cain speak at an Americans for Prosperity event in Austin, Texas in July 2010....Gordon acknowledged that Cain had received “speaking fees” from Americans for Prosperity. He said he would have to get back to me with details.

As far back as 2005 -- the year Americans for Prosperity was founded -- Cain was fronting the group's efforts to add chapters, as Think Progress reported earlier this month, and the Associated Press explored last weekend, with a campaign called the Prosperity Expansion Project. AlterNet has since learned that Cain was more than simply a cheerleader for the project; he had a mailing address and email address at Americans for Prosperity headquarters.

Here's a screen shot from the AFP Web site, of a 2005 page about the Prosperity Expansion Project :



Now, the corporate types are famous for embracing employment models that exempt the people who work for them from the sort of benefits and workplace protections that come with being an actual "employee." Perhaps Herman Cain was just an "independent contractor" or a temp worker. If so, then his campaign would be technically correct in saying that he hasn't been on the payroll.

Truth be told, Cain may not have fared too badly as an independent contractor -- it that's indeed what he was -- for Americans for Prosperity and/or its foundation.

When Mayer began peeling back what appear to be layers of obfuscation, she found, listed on the organization's tax forms, payouts by Americans for Prosperity in excess of $120,000 in 2010 to the speakers bureau that books Cain. She also discovered unspecified payments of $50,000 - $100,000 listed on Cain's filing with the Federal Election Commission as fees paid to his company, New Voice, which, Mayer writes, "he describes as a 'public speaking' and 'publishing' entity."

In June, when Herman Cain announced his presidential candidacy, AlterNet began laying out Cain's relationship to AFP and its foundation, beginning with his campaign manager, Mark Block, the former director of the Wisconsin chapter of Americans for Prosperity, known as both a talented organizer and underhanded player in Wisconsin elections. As we noted in our June report, Block was fined $15,000 and banned from participating in Wisconsin politics for three years because of election-law violations he committed on behalf of a campaign he was managing for a state Supreme Court candidate.

It was Block who recruited Cain, along with the Wall Street Journal's Stephen Moore, to front a Koch-linked operation, Prosperity 101, during the 2010 midterm election campaign. Cain claimed Prosperity 101 was the right's "answer to ACORN." (Among the other things Block busied himself with during the midterm campaign was a voter-suppression scheme in Milwaukee, reported here in the Nation.)

After the campaign ended, and Block had helped elect Scott Walker to the governor's mansion and fill the Wisconsin state legislature with Tea Party-allied candidates, he recruited Herman Cain to run for president.

When pundits opine that Herman Cain "has no organization," it's only because the conventional-wisdom machine forbids looking behind the curtain labeled Koch. Herman Cain enjoys the favor of an organization that has chapters in 34 states: Americans for Prosperity. That should at least be enough to keep him in the GOP presidential nomination contest until the all-important primary in New Hampshire, where Americans for Prosperity has a very active chapter, is settled.

As we suggested in our earlier reporting, the likely purpose of a Cain candidacy is not to win the presidency. (And given Cain's recent remarks on abortion, in which he seemed to say he's unwilling to criminalize it, it's unlikely he can win the GOP nomination.) The likely purpose of his candidacy is to push former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, the likely nominee, into adopting positions such as those favored by David Koch and Americans for Prosperity. In New Hampshire, Herman Cain may yet achieve that goal.

Related story: As Herman Cain Surges, Corporate Media Ignore His Koch Connections

Adele M. Stan is AlterNet's Washington bureau chief. Follow her on Twitter: www.twitter.com/addiestan
© 2011 Independent Media Institute. All rights reserved.
View this story online at: http://www.alternet.org/story/152826/

[Satan]

Dan Savage to Herman Cain: You think being gay is a choice? BLOW ME!! (no, seriously)

Dan Savage Challenges Herman Cain To Prove Being Gay Is 'A Choice'... By Performing Oral Sex On Him


First Posted: 10/21/11 01:56 PM ET Updated: 10/22/11 11:01 AM ET

Sex columnist and It Gets Better campaign co-founder Dan Savage has some choice words for Herman Cain.

The presidential hopeful's stance on homosexuality -- that it's a choice -- has drawn outrage from many, but Cain continues to hold his ground. Earlier this week he discussed his views with talk show host Piers Morgan:

Cain: I think it's a sin because of my biblical beliefs and, although people don't agree with me, I happen to think that it is a personal choice.

Morgan: You think people wait — you believe people get to a certain age and say, I want to be homosexual?

Cain: Let me turn it around to you. What does science show? Show me evidence other than opinion and you might cause me to reconsider that...Where is the evidence?

...

Cain: ... I respect their right to make that choice. You don't see me bashing them. I respect them to have the right to make that choice. I don't have to agree with it. That's all I'm saying

Morgan: It would be like a gay person saying, Herman, you made a choice to be black.

Cain: You know that's not the case. You know I was born black.

Morgan: Maybe if they say that, they would find that offensive.

Cain: Piers, Piers. This doesn't wash off. I hate to burst your bubble.

Morgan: I don't think being homosexual washes off.

In response to Cain's comments, Savage offered him the chance to prove that homosexuality is in fact a choice, writing on The Stranger's Slog blog:

Dear Herman,

If being gay is a choice, show us the proof. Choose it. Choose to be gay yourself. Show America how that's done, Herman, show us how a man can choose to be gay. Suck my dick, Herman. Name the time and the place and I'll bring my dick and a camera crew and you can suck me off and win the argument.
Very sincerely yours,

Dan Savage

Savage also noted that Cain is insulting straight people as well gay people when he claims that one's sexuality is something that is chosen. "Straight people should get angry when they hear a straight person making this argument," he wrote.

One more reason to love Mr. Savage.

Link

[Satan]

Well, if Pizza Guy doesn't take Dan Savage seriously, perhaps he would listen to a Starfleet officer......

[jhale667]

[Seshmeister]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147662/first-time-majority-americans-favor-legal-gay-marriage.aspx

[Nitro Express]

Honestly. We have to get away from these social issues. I don't care if the president is gay and the first lady's name is Bob just as long as they serve the citizens well in office. The country will always be divided on social issues and we bicker about this shit while our country gets hijacked and fleeced.

If there is a god and it finds homosexuality to be an abomination then that's between those individuals and the big meatball. If I had that kind of control over time and space I wouldn't be here typing this shit so I will leave it up to the great mystery to sort it all out.

[Nitro Express]

I think usually the honor is given to Naples.

I went there for a week once and during my stay had 8 pizzas from 8 different restaurants, all amazing.

Back when I was young enough to get away with that kind of thing...

Naples is famous for it's mob but it's the Camorra rather than the mafia, a scary bunch of people.

In fact I wouldn't recommend Naples for casual tourists it's pretty edgy.

I don't think I had one bad meal in Italy. It was great before the Euro because it was so cheap. The Euro made it expensive. Everyone makes a big deal about French cusine but I think Italian is equally as good if not better. The thing is the French are notorious for keeping records and the Italians pass the recipes down by word of mouth. Each family cooks a bit different. No cookbooks to follow where the French had lots of them.

[Blaze]

I don't think I had one bad meal in Italy. It was great before the Euro because it was so cheap. The Euro made it expensive. Everyone makes a big deal about French cusine but I think Italian is equally as good if not better. The thing is the French are notorious for keeping records and the Italians pass the recipes down by word of mouth. Each family cooks a bit different. No cookbooks to follow where the french had lots of them.

Perhaps you should make a sign about that.

[Satan]

Unholy shit! What kind of a bizzare campaign ad is this???? (Sorry it's a "private link" so it won't embed)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhm-22Q0PuM&feature=youtu.be

Yeah, that's real. Not a satire. Not an Onion piece. Though quite possibly a hidden message at the end for one of the worst industries old Herman lobbied heavily for, when he was head of the American Restaurant Association. (more on that later)

[Nitro Express]

Cain's initial appeal is he is viewed as being a self-made man who is not part of "The Establishment". Romney, Allen, and even Bachman are viewed as being establishment factory candidates. Herman seems like the hard working, motivated, normal person who made something of himself. Of course when you dig into him you see the establishment but to the casual eye he's a businessman instead of a professional politician.

I don't think anyone here is going to vote for him. I'm betting most here will vote for Obama or Ron Paul.

[Nitro Express]

Unholy shit! What kind of a bizzare campaign ad is this???? (Sorry it's a "private link" so it won't embed)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhm-22Q0PuM&feature=youtu.be

Yeah, that's real. Not a satire. Not an Onion piece. Though quite possibly a hidden message at the end for one of the worst industries old Herman lobbied heavily for, when he was head of the American Restaurant Association. (more on that later)

Well if it's a joint Herman might get some of the LEGALIZE IT crowd votes.

[Satan]

Fuck it. I'm going to run myself.

SATAN 2012 - Aren't you tired of voting for the "lesser" evil?