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  • Little Texan
    Full Member Status

    • Jan 2004
    • 4579

    #46
    Originally posted by FORD
    Maybe the Repukes finally figured out that another dumbassed arrogant prick cheerleader from Texas wasn't a great idea?
    He makes Bush look like a goddamn college professor by comparison.

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32942

      #47
      All these polls are just something for people to yack about. They really don't mean a thing. A year is a long time anyways. A lot can happen between now and next November. It's all who appeals to the swing voter not people who vote all D's on the ballot card.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • Nitro Express
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        • Aug 2004
        • 32942

        #48
        Originally posted by hambon4lif
        Sure was nice of his campaign manager to shoot a quick ad for him during his smoke break. They must be aiming for the emphyzema crowd.

        And that evil grin at the end seems to be saying "Y'all really buying my bullshit?"

        What a fucking piece of work this guy is. He tries to come across as some huckleberry pizza boy, when in fact, he personifies every single repulsive thing people can't stand about politicians in the first place.

        Fuck Herman Cain!
        It all depends on who the ad is targeted to. Hmmm. You have this normal midwest dude and then he smokes his cigarette. Very working class I would say and that ciggie gets the attention. Lot's of attention. Basically Cain is saying I'm not the typical focus group sanitized politician. I'm the working man's politician. It will offend some people but the offended will motivate the target audience to like it even more. I think you will see Cain's popularity rise and this ad will not be any detriment at all.

        "Never taken a drag in my whole 63 years on earth and I hate cigarette smoke, BUT I hate government intrusion on liberties even more. Therefore, I love this ad!!!" wrote one person on FOX News anchor Greta Van Susteren's blog.
        It's an anti-elitist don't tell me what to do, we're taking it back ad.
        Last edited by Nitro Express; 10-25-2011, 04:52 PM.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • Nitro Express
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 32942

          #49
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          If Herman Cain marketed breakfast cereal it would be something like this.
          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 59619

            #50
            As Satan implied above, the smoking was probably a nod from Herman & his campaign to his old friends in the tobacco industry. He's still very much in favor of supporting their "killer" product lines

            As Top Restaurant Industry Lobbyist, Herman Cain Partnered With Big Tobacco To Promote Indoor Smoking

            By Lee Fang on Oct 12, 2011 at 4:30 pm

            Herman Cain might be known best as the former CEO of Godfathers Pizza, but he served an equally substantial role as a lobbyist for the restaurant and fast food industry. As reporter Mike Elk notes at In These Times magazine, Cain, as head of the National Restaurant Association (NRA) in the ’90s, led an aggressive campaign to stop a hike in the minimum wage; and was successful in exempting servers from being included in the 1996 minimum wage law. Although Cain avoids explicitly calling attention to his role as a lobbyist on the campaign trail, he does cite his work as a restaurant association representative in fighting against President Clinton’s health reform plan as his most formative political experience.

            As a lobbyist for the NRA, Cain represented a trade association for McDonalds, Burger King, and other fast food establishments. But a little known history, uncovered by ThinkProgress using the University of California, San Francisco archives, shows that Cain also lobbied on behalf of tobacco industry giants like R.J. Reynolds and Phillip Morris.



            Documents reveals a long partnership between Herman Cain, then-head of the National Restaurant Association, and the tobacco industry. Above, one of the many Cain-related meeting notes from R.J. Reynolds.

            Cain met frequently with representatives of R.J. Reynolds and other cigarette companies to find areas of mutual concern. In 1993, when President Clinton proposed a health care overhaul, the expansion of coverage included a cigarette tax and a requirement for many businesses to cover their employees. The tobacco industry reached out to form an alliance against the Clinton plan, and Cain obliged given the fast food industry’s opposition to the so-called “employer mandate.” A fax, sent from the tobacco industry’s public relations firm Burson-Marsteller on July 13, 1994, proposes a positive article about Cain’s “BITE BACK” campaign against health reform and smoking bans.

            As Cain rose through the ranks of the National Restaurant Association to become its CEO, his bond with tobacco giants continued. In 1997, R.J. Reynolds executive David Fishel filed a memo about a meeting between Cain and tobacco lobbyists shortly after Cain became the NRA CEO. “Cain gave every indication that the NRA and RJR have the same views with regard to excessive government regulations and the importance of letting restaurateurs determine their own smoking policies,” Fishel wrote. R.J. Reynolds and other tobacco giants were at the time engaged in a massive lobbying effort to crush local, state, and federal efforts to regulate smoking in restaurants and other places of public concern.

            The relationship blossomed. At one point, Cain even signed up to help out with an international pro-tobacco publicity tour.

            Blurring the lines between restaurant industry caretaker and tobacco company representative, Cain accepted hefty donations from tobacco corporations. Cain worked to snuff out a Senate bill that would have reigned in smoking at restaurants and other facilities around the country. The lobbying drive, which defeated the bill in 1998, occured just after the NRA started to see money coming in from tobacco firms.

            As Cain gained political connections in the lobbying world, he let some of his associates in on his dream of becoming president. “What IS a little interesting,” remarked tobacco lobbyist Rob Meyne in a January 22, 1999 e-mail to his colleagues, “is that Cain has informed key NRA leaders … that he is, in fact, going to run for President.” Meyne mused that Cain probably couldn’t win, but could make some type of impact. Cain would be a positive addition to the Republican field because he is “good on our issues,” added Meyne.
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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 59619

              #51
              Tobacco industry whoring wasn't the only thing Herman did at the NRA, of course, he also was totally cool with drunk drivers and slave labor......

              CAIN THE LOBBYIST PROMOTES DRINKING AND SMOKING

              Published By: American Freedom By Barbara on October 17, 2011

              By BARBARA ESPINOSA

              As Top Restaurant Industry Lobbyist, Herman Cain Partnered With Big Tobacco To Promote Indoor Smoking…

              As a lobbyist for the NRA, Cain represented a trade association for McDonalds, Burger King, and other fast food establishments. But a little known history, uncovered by ThinkProgress using the University of California, San Francisco archives, shows that Cain also lobbied on behalf of tobacco industry giants like R.J. Reynolds and Phillip Morris. Herman Cain might be known best as the former CEO of Godfathers Pizza, but he served an equally substantial role as a lobbyist for the restaurant and fast food industry. As reporter Mike Elk notes at In These Times magazine, Cain, as head of the National Restaurant Association (NRA) in the ’90s, led an aggressive campaign to stop a hike in the minimum wage; and was successful in exempting servers from being included in the 1996 minimum wage law.

              Although Cain avoids explicitly calling attention to his role as a lobbyist on the campaign trail, he does cite his work as a restaurant association representative in fighting against President Clinton’s health reform plan as his most formative political experience. Herman Cain the guy that keeps decrying I’m an outsider, I’m a problem solver I look for the problem then find the solution..True as a problem solver he did everything he could to insure the Food and Beverage Industry could still sell a drunk another drink and get on the road and drive..Far from being an outsider Cain was the National Restaurants leading lobbyist against stopping stricter drunk driving laws that could have harmed the food industry.

              On the pages of the Omaha World-Herald in 1998, where Godfather’s Pizza is headquartered, to state his case with the paper’s editorial board against efforts to impose a federal law. In gallops the restaurant industry, whose members with liquor licenses faced a loss of business as a result of the changes. The Leader and problem solver Cain, lobbied for all he was worth against .08 changes at the state and federal level, claiming that research showed little improvement in states that had made the switch already.

              When Cain took over as CEO of the NRA in 1996, anti-drunk driving groups were leading a campaign to lower the blood alcohol limit for a DUI to .08 across the country: the equivalent for a 170 pound-man of about five beers in two hours. The majority of states used a .10 limit as their standard, which advocates argued was an insufficiently tough deterrent and left plenty of still-dangerous drivers on the road.“The problem is not the responsible drinker,” Cain wrote in one letter to the editor.”It is the alcohol – abuser who gets behind the wheel of a car. In fact, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, two-thirds of all alcohol-related fatalities are caused by drivers with a BAC of 0.15 or higher.”MADD Vice President Diane Riibe responded with her own op-ed.“Mr. Cain suggests going after the ‘alcohol abuser’ rather than the ‘responsible drinker,’” she wrote. “

              In 1996, 17,126 people were killed in alcohol-related crashes. More than 3,700 people were killed in crashes in which the drivers’ blood-alcohol levels were under 0.10 percent – Nebraska’s limit. Does Mr. Cain think that ‘responsible drinkers’ killed those 3,700 people?”This prompted an angry response from Cain, who took offense at Riibe for impugning his industry’s motives. “It’s a shame that an organization that has done so much to save lives resorts to personal attacks and accuses the other side of using fudged numbers and having ill intentions,” he wrote. “MADD should channel its energy toward alcohol abusers, not people who respectfully and politely disagree with MADD.”

              It was good enough for Congress at least, which sent a federal .08 law to, President Clinton for his signature with strong bipartisan support in 2000. It’s now the limit in all 50 states. The NRA claimed vindication the next year when a report by the nonpartisan General Accounting Office determined that several studies cited to demonstrate the effectiveness of .08 laws relied on flawed methodology. But the report didn’t exactly shoot down the .08 idea either, concluding that it “can be an important component of a state’s overall highway-safety program, but a 0.08 BAC law alone is not a ‘silver bullet.’”Riibe, who is still an anti-drunk driving activist today with Project Extra Mile, told TPM that he law would have passed much sooner without the restaurant industry’s interference. “The industry fought hard and consistently to make sure it never happened,” Riibe said over the phone. “It took a number of years to get it because of the opposition.”

              So far, Cain hasn’t responded to request on his position as he tours the country promoting his book and espousing his 9-9-9-plan along with his latest Americans need to learn how to joke.

              Source: TPM

              Omaha World-Herald
              Last edited by FORD; 10-25-2011, 06:08 PM.
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              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35754

                #52
                Originally posted by Guitar Shark
                Amazing how far Perry has fallen in such a short time.
                I find it reassuring.

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 59619

                  #53
                  Well the whole Perry thing was all about manufacturing Chimpy 2.0 to get the southern inbred religious reich vote on board (as they are NOT fans of the "Yankee cultist" Romney). But now with Cain, you have the Koch employee corporatist who hates fags and loves the tobacco industry and drunk drivers.

                  If he wasn't Black he'd be the ideal Republican candidate.
                  Eat Us And Smile

                  Cenk For America 2024!!

                  Justice Democrats


                  "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                  • hambon4lif
                    Crazy Ass Mofo
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 2810

                    #54
                    "Nachos and Hogwash.....Cowboys and Anthrax"

                    I can't be sure if I saw this clip before BLR got to it or after.....

                    ......it certainly captures some of his more coherent moments, that's for damn sure!

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                    • BITEYOASS
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 6530

                      #55
                      Originally posted by hambon4lif
                      "Nachos and Hogwash.....Cowboys and Anthrax"

                      I can't be sure if I saw this clip before BLR got to it or after.....

                      ......it certainly captures some of his more coherent moments, that's for damn sure!
                      Sounds like a cross between pimp talk and a crazy homeless dude.

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49567

                        #56
                        Halloween Skeletons in Cain's Closet: &quot;I was framed!&quot;

                        Cain says he was falsely accused of sexual harassment, unaware of settlement

                        By Rachel Rose Hartman



                        Herman Cain on Monday confirmed that he was accused of sexual harassment when he was head of the National Restaurant Association but said the attacks were "baseless." The GOP presidential candidate also said that he's unaware of any financial settlements related to those accusations.

                        "I have never sexually harassed anyone," the former CEO of Godfather's Pizza told Fox News in his first major interview since Politico reported Sunday on accusations made by two women against Cain in the 1990s. Cain said Monday that the investigation surrounding those claims concluded they were "baseless."

                        "It is totally baseless and totally false."

                        Cain's camp has contended the Politico story was part of a partisan attack against the presidential candidate but would not confirm or deny that Cain was accused of harassment--or that the women behind the accusations received any financial settlements.

                        "If the Restaurant Association did a settlement, I was not even aware of it and I hope it wasn't for much," Cain told Fox.

                        When asked if additional allegations of sexual harassment will surface, Cain said if they do, they'll also be false. "People will make them up," Cain said.

                        Yahoo.com

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                        • Satan
                          ROTH ARMY ELITE
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 6664

                          #57
                          Insert "extra sausage" joke here.....
                          Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

                          Originally posted by Sockfucker
                          I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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                          • BITEYOASS
                            ROTH ARMY ELITE
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 6530

                            #58
                            Mr. Cain must have fallen for that "Extra Fatal Lady Shimmer" he was talking about earlier.

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                            • Nitro Express
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                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32942

                              #59
                              Herman is one weird dude. I think he's running as a joke and can't believe people are dumb enough to buy it.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                              • Nitro Express
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                                • Aug 2004
                                • 32942

                                #60
                                His next ad should be a couple of people saying how Cain is going to change things and at the end of everyone having their say, have all of them sucking smoke out of the same hooka. LOL!
                                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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