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The feeling I get is that a lot of people equate libertarianism with anarchism, which is simply not true. There are basic things for a society to function like roads, police, courts and military. It's just how much government we need is where we disagree.Comment
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What people really need to realize is in a democratic republic, the citizens are the government. The politicians are just hired help. Employees if you will. What happened is we became successful and that success made us lazy and apathetic. You can't be that way when you are the boss or your employees will take advantage of you and invite their friends in and loot the place. This is exactly what has happened with this country. People need to grow up and start acting like they own this place again.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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I'm not saying that markets are free from personal responsibility, but what happens if a government controlled industry fails? A lot of people are out of work. What happens in an industry that is deregulated with lots of competition? One company is out of business while there's many more hanging around. A free market is actually overall safer from collapse and more stable.Comment
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Regulation is a complicated issue. You have to have some or you end up with monopolies and other abuses in the private sector. But then too much regulation kills commerce. It can turn into a form of tyranny. Right now in the US regulation has taken a strange turn to where the regulators basically work for the corporations who bought up the politicians. So instead of regulating an industry as a whole they leave one company alone to do whatever it wants and then focuses on the competition to run them out of business or make it impossible to compete. I would say that's the sign of a corrupt government and a broken system. It's no longer regulation, it's racketeering.
Government is power period. Historically giving governments too much power usually always end up bad. I think the big mistake we have made and are making is giving the government too much power over our lives. It's into everything now and then if you haven't noticed, it's breaking the supreme law of the land and grabbing more power for itself. It amazes me people still want to give this beast of a government more power when it's clearly shown it's irresponsible and not worthy of such.Last edited by Nitro Express; 02-05-2012, 04:09 AM.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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I think a lot of people mistake corporatism for free markets, when they are not the same thing.Comment
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A corporation is simply a legal entity owned by shareholders. Legally the shareholders are not legally liable for the acts of the corporation. It has nothing to do with the market at all. Corporations can be part of a free market or they can be a monopoly. Capitalism has nothing to do with corporations even though a corporation can participate in capitalism which is owning your own assets and selling products and services in an open and free market. What we have now is not a free market but racketeering and the government itself has merged with the abusers. One set of companies can do whatever the hell they want. There is a revolving door between Washington DC and companies, and the politically connected never go to jail. Barrack Obama participated in real estate price fixing in Chicago. His neighbor who also participated in the fraud got ten years in prison. Timothy Geithner got caught not paying his income tax. Nothing happened to him but then of course he is head of the Treasury Department and that's over the IRS. All sorts of this kind of shit going on in the government that supposed to regulate markets to keep them honest.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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What people really need to realize is in a democratic republic, the citizens are the government. The politicians are just hired help. Employees if you will. What happened is we became successful and that success made us lazy and apathetic. You can't be that way when you are the boss or your employees will take advantage of you and invite their friends in and loot the place. This is exactly what has happened with this country. People need to grow up and start acting like they own this place again.Comment
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The media is obviously bought and paid for. I couldn't find the actual video on You tube. Someone must have removed it but David Rockefeller was actually thanking specific media channels for their cooperation in providing biased news that furthered the multinational corporate agenda. If you read Mr. Rockefeller's memoirs he says it frank. The world would be better ruled by academics and multinational corporate interests than the democratic systems that have been tried. In other words he see's democracy as a huge failure and would like to go back to feudalism ran by a few elites. I guess if you are in the top 1% it's not a bad plan but it sucks if you aren't.
The only video that covers a bit of Mr. Rockefeller's thank you to the media is this conspiracy video.
Ron Paul is the first internet candidate. The establishment Republican media has constantly told people he can't win so don't waste your vote but if you do a little research on your own, Ron Paul is holding his own. The media is trying to scar voters away from him because he threatens the Federal Reserve gravy train. Mitt and Obama will leave the establishment in place. I think they want to get Mitt in there because he's more of a go getter than Obama. I think they didn't get as much done with Obama as they had hoped. George Soros was spot on when he said there isn't much difference between Miit and Barrack. Newt must have made a lot of enemies because none of the heavy hitters and supporting him. Only the freaks like Sarah Palin.
Ron Paul could very well win. He can pull a lot of votes from both sides. He's popular with voters on both sides.Last edited by Nitro Express; 02-05-2012, 05:15 AM.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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i went hyperbole for effect.
but, i still say, in general, ron paul's domestic beliefs (while sincere) take the country more towards the laws of the jungle. there is value to funding social safety net programs. maybe not the exact ones we have now, sure. but overall, i think i benefit from the fact that there isn't a larger section of the population unable to provide for themselves.Comment
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agreed.
i went hyperbole for effect.
but, i still say, in general, ron paul's domestic beliefs (while sincere) take the country more towards the laws of the jungle. there is value to funding social safety net programs. maybe not the exact ones we have now, sure. but overall, i think i benefit from the fact that there isn't a larger section of the population unable to provide for themselves.
How did the nation get by for over a hundred and some odd years without them?Comment
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