President Obama finally "evolves" in his views on marriage equality.

[Nitro Express]

Since I'm already spending eternity in Hell, I should be the one to post this, so none of you have to risk your souls (yeah, like you're not all going to end up here anyway.....)

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That's Jesus? It looks more like Iggy Pop to me.

[Nitro Express]

um...wow.

Even one of the fucking bush twins is on the side of gay marriage.

Someone who's dad pretty much won the 04 election over this crap.

when darth cheney, and someone from the bush family is to the left of you on an issue, it's time to give it up gop.

I despise the Bush family but holy hell would I love to get it on with Barbara Bush and I mean the granddaughter and not the grey fox.

[Nickdfresh]

Which facts in the article would you care to dispute?

All of it since this evangelical christian site cites no actual scientific studies...

Oh wait! I just spit up beer by using the word "science" in the same sentence as "christian evangelicals." Because it's not like evangelicals make up bullshit or cherry pick distorted facts to support their literalist retardations...

[Nickdfresh]

Most evangelical Christians are rapists or believe in rape, sex slavery, and abduction:

Rape In The Bible



Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.



So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes that your priests and preachers don't want to tell you about. Note that in many places in the Bible there are references to "taking a wife". Don't be fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages. This first quote clearly shows that murder and force were used to "take" these wives.



1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)



So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.



The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."



Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.



Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?



2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)



They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.



Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.



Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.



3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)



As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.



What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?



4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)



If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.



What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.



5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)



If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.



It is clear that God doesn't give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".



6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)



Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'

Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.]



This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!



7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)



"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."


Once again God approves of forcible rape.



8) Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)



They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)



9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)



When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)



10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)



Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm

[knuckleboner]

Because not every white male is a serial killer. Homos, as a whole, ARE immoral.

i don't suppose you'd care to explain WHY they're all immoral, simply for being gay?

and how gay is immoral to you? full sex? probably. then again, even the old testament translations don't say anything about woman lying with woman. oral sex? heavy petting? is a guy that never goes beyond kissing other guys immoral to you? presuming you don't think people are born gay, is somebody immoral for professing to have gay feelings, but never acts on them?

and, by immoral, is there any way possible, that you can explain, without using the excuse that it's simply against God's will, why homosexuality is immoral? i mean, i can see that God was smart with the 10 commandments. they all make sense. but i've yet to hear anybody explain why homosexuals are immoral without simply saying, "because God said so," as if God doesn't actually use reason.

[Nitro Express]

Whenever we get into these deep religious discussions it always gets me thinking about George Carlin.

[Satan]

i don't suppose you'd care to explain WHY they're all immoral, simply for being gay?

and how gay is immoral to you? full sex? probably. then again, even the old testament translations don't say anything about woman lying with woman. oral sex? heavy petting? is a guy that never goes beyond kissing other guys immoral to you? presuming you don't think people are born gay, is somebody immoral for professing to have gay feelings, but never acts on them?

and, by immoral, is there any way possible, that you can explain, without using the excuse that it's simply against God's will, why homosexuality is immoral? i mean, i can see that God was smart with the 10 commandments. they all make sense. but i've yet to hear anybody explain why homosexuals are immoral without simply saying, "because God said so," as if God doesn't actually use reason.

I was there when God wrote that Top 10 List and passed it off to Moses on the granite slabs. Funny how not going to Temple on Saturday, or disobeying your parents made the list, but there's nothing in there about gay sex. (No, that is NOT what was meant by "Don't covet your neighbor's ass")

I also happened to be passing through Sodom & Gommorrah on my way back to Hell when that little incident happened with the townspeople and my former colleagues who came down to pay Lot a visit. I watched the whole fireworks show, and it wasn't about gays, it was about a handful of idiots trying to rape angels. Angels don't take very kindly to that. Not even fallen angels like my Most Unholy self. So they put a call into the Boss (no, not Springsteen) and He told them to get Lot and his crew out of town, and pulled the plug. And then Lot's two teenage daughters Bristol and Willow got him drunk and fucked him in a cave after their mommy became a really tall salt shaker. Now THAT shit was funny!

[Seshmeister]

i mean, i can see that God was smart with the 10 commandments. they all make sense.

No not really when you think about it.

Nothing about rape, nothing about incest, nothing about child abuse, nothing about slavery, nothing about Piers Morgan but plenty on how a supreme being needs his fucking ego massaged.

The 10 commandments are shit. I could do better in 5 minutes and I'm barely a minor deity.

[BigBadBrian]

i don't suppose you'd care to explain WHY they're all immoral, simply for being gay?

Yes...absolutely.

[BigBadBrian]

Most evangelical Christians are rapists or believe in rape, sex slavery, and abduction:

Let's see some New Testament references.

[BigBadBrian]

What? You got a problem with Freddie & the guy from the Black Crows?

The Black Crowes.... Yeah it does look like him. Maybe that's why Kate dumped him...he's a flaming fag, just like his music.

[BigBadBrian]

Don'tcha like how BaldBitchBrie wants someone to challenge the "facts" in his hate site link...as if there were any?

I knew you couldn't do it.

[jhale667]

Don't have to. It's a hatchet job, put up on a fake-ass site calling hateful pseudo-science fact. Pathetic as usual.

[Nitro Express]

Did someone say hatchet?

[knuckleboner]

No not really when you think about it.

Nothing about rape, nothing about incest, nothing about child abuse, nothing about slavery, nothing about Piers Morgan but plenty on how a supreme being needs his fucking ego massaged.

The 10 commandments are shit. I could do better in 5 minutes and I'm barely a minor deity.

i didn't meant that all 10 were the be-all and end-all of a complete moral code. i just meant that i can understand the reasoning behind "don't kill," "don't steal," etc. but don't be gay doesn't have the same kind of obvious explanation, to say the least.