President Obama finally "evolves" in his views on marriage equality.

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  • SunisinuS
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • May 2010
    • 3301

    #31
    Originally posted by Dr. Love
    FTFY

    It should never have been a question to begin with. Equal rights and protection for all citizens under the law... including the right to enter into legally binding agreements recognized by the State.
    Game. Set. Match.
    Can't Control your Future. Can't Control your Friends. The women start to hike their skirts up. I didn't have a clue. That is when I kinda learned how to smile a lot. One Two Three Fouir fun ter thehr fuur.

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    • clarathecarrot
      Full Member Status

      • May 2010
      • 3588

      #32
      Originally posted by DLR Bridge
      Rick Santorum, is that you?
      I he still in the race ...I have no idea of this persons stance on the issues or even what he looks like..?

      If you are slamming my sentence..? I don't get it because I wouldn't waste my vote on the Presidential level.

      You as a person are not involved in foriegn policy or the issues dealt with on that level, no one in this country is...you would be better involved patriot that I am sure you are, voting assholes off your local city council that are raping this country daily, from inside quietly without your knowledge or civic input.

      But confusing us is the nature of thier game.
      Last edited by clarathecarrot; 05-09-2012, 10:36 PM.
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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32942

        #33
        Looks like the campaign market research department figures supporting gay marriage may help Obama on votes more than it will hurt. I'm sure the Obama campaign has a market research department as big as a pretty major corporation. A lot of people who work in statistical market research often find jobs working for someone's campaign. You look at the product and then try and match that to the market and then fine tweak the product to meet the end goal of either selling as many units as possible or getting long-term market share. Whatever the over all end goal is you custom match everything to get there. It's a very dynamic and complicated process and even with all the scientific tools, the failure rate is high. There are just too many variables to control and too many places your market research can go wrong.

        There is a legal problem with gay marriage. A marriage license is permission from the state to engage in sexual commerce. I am not kidding here. Basically the government views your children as state property and they are given a social security number and ten bonds of $2.5 billion each are issued by the Federal Reserve for each baby born. In fact the bank code is on your Social Security card and tells you what Federal Reserve Branch your bonds are held. Unfortunately it is not your money but held in trust supposedly for your benefit. Basically the money is put into the monetary system to match the population so there is enough to build infrastructure. That was the original plan anyways. The traditional marriage definition is based around offspring. You don't produce any in a gay marriage so by legal definition it's not a marriage but it can be a legal binding relationship but different laws would have to be written. This whole system is based on marriage of a man and woman which is sexual commerce. It also deals with estates and inheritance. It gets real complicated quick and under traditional legal terms, gay marriage just doesn't fit the definition.
        Last edited by Nitro Express; 05-09-2012, 10:48 PM.
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        • clarathecarrot
          Full Member Status

          • May 2010
          • 3588

          #34
          Originally posted by SunisinuS
          Game. Set. Match.
          So, who are these, "other people" the ones who wouldn't be already... protected..?

          Are they the ones who seperate themselves from society, and ask that they be recognized as more special by demanding legal equality..?
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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 59649

            #35
            Originally posted by Dr. Love
            FTFY

            It should never have been a question to begin with. Equal rights and protection for all citizens under the law... including the right to enter into legally binding agreements recognized by the State.
            That would be the logical interpretation of the 14th Amendment, as it was when the Supreme Court ruled in favor of "interracial" marriage in 1967. Instead, the current bunch of BCE appointed fools thinks it applies to making corporations equal to human beings.
            Eat Us And Smile

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            • clarathecarrot
              Full Member Status

              • May 2010
              • 3588

              #36
              Originally posted by Nitro Express
              Looks like the campaign market research department figures supporting gay marriage may help Obama on votes more than it will hurt. I'm sure the Obama campaign has a market research department as big as a pretty major corporation. A lot of people who work in statistical market research often find jobs working for someone's campaign. You look at the product and then try and match that to the market and then fine tweak the product to meet the end goal of either selling as many units as possible or getting long-term market share. Whatever the over all end goal is you custom match everything to get there. It's a very dynamic and complicated process and even with all the scientific tools, the failure rate is high. There are just too many variables to control and too many places your market research can go wrong.
              That is why they elevate base issues to the media front..it doesn't matter what Obama thinks, it matters that people are thinking about him when they toss that coin in the voting booth anyone who spends more time than a flick of the nickle, is already on someones campain, for election..there is no such thing as a edjucated vote for president. Ecept in the mind of these narrow minded twits.

              The job of the president is unrelateable to everyday society...but TV makes people think they matter in the selection.

              People want hope for a future, not gay marriage, not peace in Isreal, a steady rising economy, and hope realizied as a daily given, ...the rest is retoric blown way out of porportion by activists and people who make money by talking about non-issues made somehow important, confusing people , who think they are forward thinkers .
              Last edited by clarathecarrot; 05-09-2012, 10:50 PM.
              2015 once smoke 2 smoke ...poke
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              • DLR Bridge
                ROCKSTAR

                • Mar 2011
                • 5479

                #37
                Originally posted by clarathecarrot
                I he still in the race ...I have no idea of this persons stance on the issues or even what he looks like..?

                If you are slamming my sentence..? I don't get it because I wouldn't waste my vote on the Presidential level.

                You as a person are not involved in foriegn policy or the issues dealt with on that level, no one in this country is...you would be better involved patriot that I am sure you are, voting assholes off your local city council that are raping this country daily, from inside quietly without your knowledge or civic input.

                But confusing us is the nature of thier game.
                My word, what language are you even speaking? The sentence I slammed is just one of a few from that post that closely resembles the narrow minded stance of a recently jettisoned homophobic republican nominee. Who exactly are you to deem what is to be considered normal or deviant behavior? Surely you have some gay relatives, gay friends or gay co-workers in your life. How exactly do you present your argument to them that they don't deserve the same liberties and rights you have? I'm curious.

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32942

                  #38
                  Originally posted by clarathecarrot
                  That is why they elevate base issues to the media front..it doesn't matter what Obama thinks, it matters that people are thinking about him when they toss that coin in the voting booth anyone who spends more time than a flick of the nickle, is already on someones campain, for election..there is no such thing as a edjucated vote for president. Ecept in the mind of these narrow minded twits.

                  The job of the president is unrelateable to everyday society...but TV makes people think they matter in the selection.

                  People want hope for a future, not gay marriage, not peace in Isreal, a steady rising economy, and hope realizied as a daily given, ...the rest is retoric blown way out of porportion by activists and people who make money by talking about non-issues made somehow important, confusing people , who think they are forward thinkers .
                  It's about getting elected or re-elected period. Once they are in they do what they pretty much want.
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 59649

                    #39
                    Originally posted by DLR Bridge
                    My word, what language are you even speaking? The sentence I slammed is just one of a few from that post that closely resembles the narrow minded stance of a recently jettisoned homophobic republican nominee. Who exactly are you to deem what is to be considered normal or deviant behavior? Surely you have some gay relatives, gay friends or gay co-workers in your life. How exactly do you present your argument to them that they don't deserve the same liberties and rights you have? I'm curious.
                    He's a guy who uses a female name and a phallic shaped vegetable, if that's any clue
                    Eat Us And Smile

                    Cenk For America 2024!!

                    Justice Democrats


                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • clarathecarrot
                      Full Member Status

                      • May 2010
                      • 3588

                      #40
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      That would be the logical interpretation of the 14th Amendment, as it was when the Supreme Court ruled in favor of "interracial" marriage in 1967. Instead, the current bunch of BCE appointed fools thinks it applies to making corporations equal to human beings.
                      I heard they voted 800 thousand new laws into existence in 2011. Across this country.

                      Bloated and stupid and all looking for historical importance..does anyone think that that is a prerequisite to legislate justice or protect human rights.

                      I can't wait until Obama care or whattever the buzzword is, goes into effect and we add 400thousand new government employees to the backs of the working class.

                      Then what will the number be 61% of the employed are salaried by the 39% who actually produce a product due to labor and those peoples taxes pay for the 65%..?

                      That is what destroyed Rome...for all these fact hunters here.

                      That balance cannot support reality....secret society bent on destroying america aren't the BCE.
                      2015 once smoke 2 smoke ...poke
                      clara the tiny giraffe make fur curve

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                      • ashstralia
                        ROTH ARMY ELITE
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 6566

                        #41
                        thanks for the nightmares i'm gonna have, BITEYOASS!!!

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                        • clarathecarrot
                          Full Member Status

                          • May 2010
                          • 3588

                          #42
                          Originally posted by DLR Bridge
                          My word, what language are you even speaking? The sentence I slammed is just one of a few from that post that closely resembles the narrow minded stance of a recently jettisoned homophobic republican nominee. Who exactly are you to deem what is to be considered normal or deviant behavior? Surely you have some gay relatives, gay friends or gay co-workers in your life. How exactly do you present your argument to them that they don't deserve the same liberties and rights you have? I'm curious.
                          Dude, I am well know around here for stating the fact, that sexual prefference is not a reason to form a lobby and demand special attention, special rights to imagined needs..I don't care if it is telephone pole fucking.

                          I have never had a friend/ co-worker, who was gay..I have had friends who were homosexual.

                          When people realize the bill of goods they have been fed they will probably shit themselves in the horror of thier stupidity.

                          People of dignity don't need or this "deserve" you are speaking of....that is what the idiots want.
                          Last edited by clarathecarrot; 05-09-2012, 11:12 PM.
                          2015 once smoke 2 smoke ...poke
                          clara the tiny giraffe make fur curve

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                          • clarathecarrot
                            Full Member Status

                            • May 2010
                            • 3588

                            #43
                            Originally posted by FORD
                            He's a guy who uses a female name and a phallic shaped vegetable, if that's any clue
                            Is it phallic shaped..or is that what you say, a carrot looks like...cause it looks like a carrot to me. I mean carrots do.

                            I phallus shape is a exact shape of a penis.

                            Oh, shit.... That is a cigar!

                            It's that grey area that fucks people up.
                            2015 once smoke 2 smoke ...poke
                            clara the tiny giraffe make fur curve

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                            • SunisinuS
                              Crazy Ass Mofo
                              • May 2010
                              • 3301

                              #44
                              I shoot every dog that humps my leg.

                              SunisinuS 2012: Republican Presidential Candidate.

                              Vote for me now....or they may be some Gay Dogs left.
                              Last edited by SunisinuS; 05-09-2012, 11:21 PM. Reason: That Dog's Gay.
                              Can't Control your Future. Can't Control your Friends. The women start to hike their skirts up. I didn't have a clue. That is when I kinda learned how to smile a lot. One Two Three Fouir fun ter thehr fuur.

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                              • DLR Bridge
                                ROCKSTAR

                                • Mar 2011
                                • 5479

                                #45
                                Imagined needs? Imagined? What, a gay man wanting health care for his partner or adopted child is something one could only imagine? Why is that? Granted, all healthcare is crap at this point, but still. All preference aside, are we not talking about human beings? So you have had friends that are gay. Why the past tense?

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