Broke California OKs funding for high-speed rail line

[Satan]

Maybe if California would tax all the rich fucks that live there (including Willard Mittens Romney) they would have the money. Declare all the anti-tax ballot measures unconstitutional, and raise taxes retroactively among the billionaires at least. Other states need to do the same (Washington comes to mind, as they have the same problems for the same reason)

Two things should NEVER be up for popular vote: Tax laws and civil rights. Because the same ignorant morons will vote stupidly on both, and others will suffer for it.

[ELVIS]

Oh, take even more money from the people who busted their ass to get it ??

Is that your idea of the american way ??

[Satan]

Oh, take even more money from the people who busted their ass to get it ??

Is that your idea of the american way ??

I'll bet if you listed the 25 richest people in Collieforneea, you couldn't even find 10 of them who acquired that money by any means that could be qualified as "busting their asses".

Busting others asses, maybe. Probably not as blatantly as the "old money" down south did.... but only because most of the new slaves live in other countries.

[ELVIS]

Still, you want to take money from people to fund whatever you deem to be a good idea...

[Satan]

What a Devil wants is for the US to return to the great country it once was. Where you could drive down a road - or take a train, or a plane, or bus, or whatever with relatively little hassle, and aside from the random statistical risk of getting in a crash of whatever vehicle, you were relatively safe, because the roads, rails, and vehicles were all reasonably well built and maintained (Well, people maintained the vehicles themselves if they could, but it was easier to do so)

How was all this built? With a tax code that required the richest Americans to pay their fair share.

When did it start falling apart? After the BCE (first with Reagan, then Chimpy) told them they didn't have to do so anymore.

Why does this matter to the Devil? Because a population that has less time to worry about shit like this, has more time to SIN, of course!

BTW Nurse Presley, did Piyush ever fix those levees around NOLA? What about that Huey P. Long bridge? Is it still a deathtrap waiting to happen?

[ELVIS]

Both have been rebuilt without raising taxes or asking for a bailout..

[Satan]

Both have been rebuilt without raising taxes or asking for a bailout..

Let me guess......

FEMA money for the Katrina recovery, right?

Because the money apparently wasn't there before the hurricane, so where else would it have come from?

[ELVIS]

Jobs...

[SunisinuS]

Yea it is so funny, Cali knows the future. Since the population is more cosmopolitan it has experienced trains etc and knows how valuable they are. For Republicans to make such a simple thing political just shows you how far they have left their frontal lobes behind.

Great Job Cali. We love ya. And in the future when some other states who gave up that money just for spite politically, hope you enjoy walking!

Although Chris Christie has never walked a day in his life. Got to wonder as the Repukes stick their heads so far up Christie's ass....they must really love that smell.



Meet California in the future not the pasture.

[Seshmeister]

Still, you want to take money from people to fund whatever you deem to be a good idea...

How much does your government spend on each year on maintaining oil supplies, cars and roads?

[Satan]

Interesting fact from the Wiki page on the Huey P. Long bridge project....

The Huey P. Long Bridge Widening Project is a TIMED (Transportation Infrastructure Model for Economic Development) Program project. The TIMED Program was created by Act 16 of the 1989 Louisiana Legislature, was voted for by the people and is the single largest transportation program in state history. The Program is designed to enhance economic development in Louisiana through an investment in transportation projects.

So Nurse Presley, I guess it's OK if your state invests in infrastructure, just not the Collieforneeans?

[gbranton]

Both have been rebuilt without raising taxes or asking for a bailout..

C'mon E, you aren't doing a great job debating this. If they were talking shit about Alabama like this I'd be all in it.

[Dr. Love]

Eventually we're all going to be in deep economic shit. The real choice in front of us is whether we want to deal with it like adults and try to manage our way out of it, or if we want to behave like children and ignore the situation.

Given that the vast majority of the people in this country think that if they ignore a problem it will go away, I say... fuck it. Let's have one last epic shopping spree so we can go through the shitstorm sooner rather than later.

[jhale667]

C'mon E, you aren't doing a great job debating this. If they were talking shit about Alabama like this I'd be all in it.

His troll fu is getting weaker lately.

[Satan]

There's a difference between "spending" and investment. Nobody in the US is going to get a single goddamn dime back from Iraq or Afghanistan.

Oh sure, the oil companies will make money. And Halliburton. And the BCE/CIA from their heroin smuggling. But none of them pay taxes, so we won't even see that money indirectly.

Infrastructure improvements, such as the California trains, and the Lousiana bridge project are a far better deal, both short term and long term. It's too bad thousands of people had to die in New Orleans before they realized the levees really should be fixed, and I would hope that Pawlenty's failure in Minnesota might have motivated them to fix the Huey P. Long bridge.

Sometimes it takes money to make money. Sometimes you even have to borrow it. The key is separating the worthwhile investments from the dumbass wastes of time, resources, and lives (such as any "war" the US has been involved in after 1945.)