Private Contracting Firms - Why the US uses them

[motherchicken]

Maybe if we hadn't spent the last fucking half a goddamn century trying to be a world empire, we wouldn't have to worry about anybody attacking us.

So WHAT THE FUCK GOOD is a permanent world wide military empire doing us, bitch?

You forget the Soviet Union. They were a threat to our allies and us due to our differing ideologies alone. There are plenty American haters out there who hate us because they don't care for our ideologies involving freedom of religion and tolerance of alternate lifestyles alone. I don't think it hurts to have a "world wide military empire" while there are still people like Kim Jong - un around.
A "world wide military" and a "standing army" are two different things. Which one are you against?

[vandeleur]

It's been acknowledged now that the soviet union expansion into Europe was a paper tiger and exaggerated to allow for increased western military spending. The soviets had neither the logistics or actual working reliable equipment to achieve the anticipated over run of Europe , coupled with an at the time moral sapped poorly trained army it wasnt ever a goer in military circles that's now public knowledge in most books since the fall of the iron curtain.
Tho i do concede the site of Russians pushing tanks to petrol stations in Germany does sound funny now .

[motherchicken]

Moving missiles into Cuba wasn't funny paper material either. Unless that was another hoax perpetrated by the military industrial complex. I'd rather my country and my allies were prepared and nothing happened than unprepared and pay the price.

[Seshmeister]

Moving missiles into Cuba was a reasonable thing to do in response to the US moving missiles into Europe and Turkey as well as threatening Cuba with a return to a brutal dictator.

[motherchicken]

And we moved missiles into Europe and Turkey because?
This could go on forever. You believe the Soviet Union was an exaggerated threat to America and our allies. A threat exaggerated by the military industrial complex just to make money. Maybe. Maybe not.
But the bottom line for me is follow the boy scouts motto (even though I never was one) be prepared. Cut the waste. Good idea. No standing army? Insanity.

[FORD]

But the bottom line for me is follow the boy scouts motto (even though I never was one) be prepared.

On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

So where does banging footwear enter into this??

[gbranton]

Moving missiles into Cuba was a reasonable thing to do in response to the US moving missiles into Europe and Turkey as well as threatening Cuba with a return to a brutal dictator.

I believe this as well. Most people hold JFK as beyond reproach, I see him as the man who almost ended the world.

[FORD]

I believe this as well. Most people hold JFK as beyond reproach, I see him as the man who almost ended the world.

On the contrary... just imagine some fucking imbecile like Reagan or Chimpy in the White House in 1962.

Well you couldn't imagine it actually, because this planet wouldn't have been here in order for you to be born.

[gbranton]

On the contrary... just imagine some fucking imbecile like Reagan or Chimpy in the White House in 1962.

Well you couldn't imagine it actually, because this planet wouldn't have been here in order for you to be born.

I suppose the what if scenarios are endless, you could say that maybe Clinton would have charmed them or Obama would have endlessly dithered or simply caved, but JFK was the man at the time and I think it was the closest we have been to MAD.

[Nickdfresh]

Ford clearly posted there is no need for a standing army during peacetime. And quoted Thomas Jefferson saying the same. I call that insanity. I may be wrong but wasn't the war of 1812 a by product of thoughts like that? How about 90% reduction and we maintain our military superiority?

You are wrong...

[Nickdfresh]

I believe this as well. Most people hold JFK as beyond reproach, I see him as the man who almost ended the world.

JFK is far from beyond reproach, he certain often acted irresponsibly. But he was far from the "man who almost ended the world" in The Cuban Missile Crisis. That award would go to the psychotic fuckwit generals like Curtis LeMay who attempted to goad Kennedy into invading Cuba, which would have ended in a disaster mainly not least of which because the Soviet forces on the island had tactical nuclear shells they no doubt would have hit invading marines and troops with rather than risk their nukes falling into American hands. As far as nukes in Turkey, the Soviets also had nukes everywhere in their Warsaw Pact subordinates and each side was always looking for an advantage, but the Soviets certainly knew they were vastly escalating by bringing nukes to Cuba and forcing America's hand and that it would be virtually regarded as unacceptable, as Washington, DC could have been obliterated in minutes in a surprise attack...

[motherchicken]

JFK is far from beyond reproach, he certain often acted irresponsibly. But he was far from the "man who almost ended the world" in The Cuban Missile Crisis. That award would go to the psychotic fuckwit generals like Curtis LeMay who attempted to goad Kennedy into invading Cuba, which would have ended in a disaster mainly not least of which because the Soviet forces on the island had tactical nuclear shells they no doubt would have hit invading marines and troops with rather than risk their nukes falling into American hands. As far as nukes in Turkey, the Soviets also had nukes everywhere in their Warsaw Pact subordinates and each side was always looking for an advantage, but the Soviets certainly knew they were vastly escalating by bringing nukes to Cuba and forcing America's hand and that it would be virtually regarded as unacceptable, as Washington, DC could have been obliterated in minutes in a surprise attack...

Are you actually admitting the Soviet Union was a viable threat? That our allies did indeed have something to fear from them? I don't think the average Joe knows much about tactical nukes. Most people think that nukes are restricted to missiles that are capable of traveling thousands of miles.

[FORD]

Going by your definition, wool socks would be a "viable threat". You know, they're all itchy and shit.

Maybe we should station troops on every sheep ranch on the planet to make sure they are "defensively" sheared.

[motherchicken]

Going by your definition, wool socks would be a "viable threat". You know, they're all itchy and shit.

Maybe we should station troops on every sheep ranch on the planet to make sure they are "defensively" sheared.

I used to think you were moderately intelligent and a smartass at the same time. But your conspiracy theories, your fixation with the BCE and your recent no need for a stranding army bullshit have lead me to believe you're a nutball and a smartass.

[hideyoursheep]

It's been acknowledged now that the soviet union expansion into Europe was a paper tiger and exaggerated to allow for increased western military spending. The soviets had neither the logistics or actual working reliable equipment to achieve the anticipated over run of Europe , coupled with an at the time moral sapped poorly trained army it wasnt ever a goer in military circles that's now public knowledge in most books since the fall of the iron curtain.
Tho i do concede the site of Russians pushing tanks to petrol stations in Germany does sound funny now .

I wonder how Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, East Berlin AND Afghanistan (to name a few) feel about that?