Private Contracting Firms - Why the US uses them

[hideyoursheep]

The T-72 and T-80 series were designed to be a relatively cheap, expendable tank with good firepower and mobility..

The T-80U...according to Wiki, "was purchased by the US from the UK in 1993 and tested at Aberdeen Proving Grounds..."




How could I find out if something has been declassified? I'm dead serious.

[Nickdfresh]

I was watching something on the military channel yesterday where they showed a CGI simulation of a battle in the second Gulf War. The M-1A1/2's ran through the Iraqis with the help of Apache choppers. But the sheer scale of the tanks, the M-1 looked massive next to the T-72/80. As far as effectiveness, I believe there was a real fear that the missile ammunition launched from the T-80's gun barrel caused a bit of worry, no idea how effective it is in real combat though...

[hideyoursheep]

I was watching something on the military channel yesterday where they showed a CGI simulation of a battle in the second Gulf War. The M-1A1/2's ran through the Iraqis with the help of Apache choppers. But the sheer scale of the tanks, the M-1 looked massive next to the T-72/80. As far as effectiveness, I believe there was a real fear that the missile ammunition launched from the T-80's gun barrel caused a bit of worry, no idea how effective it is in real combat though...

I think I know what you're talking about as far as the simulation thing. There is (or was) a huge computer simulator big enough for an entire platoon to train simultaneously in the same simulated enviornment in Ft. Knox near the Holder Complex. Drivers, gunners, track/ tank commanders...the whole thing. It was ahead of it's time, really...the idea was to train without using ammo or fuel...they could do an individual crew or an entire company/troop using the same artificial landscape and scenarios...whatever they punched in. I actually used it back in 88 and 89. Fucking thing must have cost a fortune!

I liked it because it was air conditioned! I only used it twice, tho..

You are spot on with the vehicle size comparisons...All of the Soviet vehicles had a very low profile compare to ours. The BMP's, BTR 60P's T-62's T-64's and T-72's...not very comfortable on the inside, tho...you had to be Mini-Me to fit inside those things! The rounded turrets must have been a design they stuck with since the T-34's. Their more modern vehicles had bigger main guns and missle launch capabilities, but using an auto loader caused problems, as well as the lack of stabilization while firing on the move....

I can't say anything about the T-80U...I'm not trying to sound like a pretentious big-shot, I just don't know if certain things have been declassified...I don't wanna get into any trouble. You would definitely find it interesting!

[hideyoursheep]

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I can't say anything about the T-80U...I'm not trying to sound like a pretentious big-shot, I just don't know if certain things have been declassified...I don't wanna get into any trouble. You would definitely find it interesting!

Actually, a LOT of ppl might find it interesting...assuming they actually give a shit.

[Redballjets88]

Blah blah blah ...simple solution...stop policing the world

[Nickdfresh]

Worthless drunken asshole contractors






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[jhale667]

Good to know my tax dollars are going to these douchebags being overpaid to shoot up Special K...

[hideyoursheep]

Makes me nauseous..