If this is your first visit to the Roth Army, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
Islamic extremists need to lighten the fuck up....geeeeez That cartoon rules, btw!
That's an interesting challenge facing the Islamic factions... they fought for liberty and freedom to govern/express themselves and earned it through the overthrow of those oppressive dictatorships. Now can they infuse tolerance within their fragile democracies to where they don't just become something worse than they fought to replace?
That's something that didn't happen quickly or easily in the early stages of the US... and we still aren't there fully. But I'm not optimistic the leaders in the Middle east have the cajones to make their world a better place...
"If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”
I agree with Zah, and in the end the killing of the U.S. Ambassador in Libya seems to have been a Pyrrhic victory for Islamic extremist militias there, as the the people on the whole are rising up and demanding law and order as a result of it--the vast majority of them being relatively pro-American or at least ambivalent towards America...
A nice, try-to-life slogan. But what did they "lie" about?
First they claimed the attack was a local protest gone awry because of that movie. It took them over a week to admit that it was a well-coordinated terrorist attack that was carefully planned out. The thing is, they knew that almost right away and kept claiming it was because of the movie. Susan Rice was one of the big offenders, as was Jay Carney.
“If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush
First they claimed the attack was a local protest gone awry because of that movie. It took them over a week to admit that it was a well-coordinated terrorist attack that was carefully planned out. The thing is, they knew that almost right away and kept claiming it was because of the movie. Susan Rice was one of the big offenders, as was Jay Carney.
He referred to it as a terrorist attack fairly early on...
"The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. ... No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation."
Comments by U.S. officials regarding the September 11 attack that killed four Americans in Benghazi, Libya, have provoked controversy among some critics.
The attack was conducted the previous day, on 9/11/12...
I agree with Zah, and in the end the killing of the U.S. Ambassador in Libya seems to have been a Pyrrhic victory for Islamic extremist militias there, as the the people on the whole are rising up and demanding law and order as a result of it--the vast majority of them being relatively pro-American or at least ambivalent towards America...
That's the trend that needs support. At some point I think most of the people in Libya want an end to war and violence. Sadly there's a portion of the Islamic world that can't live with out the violence. But if more communities and countries get fed up with all the hate and killings... eventually they will move toward the desire to be a part of the peaceful and productive aspects of the world.
They have to realize they had their civil war and rose above their oppressive dictatorship... now you go build something that works... you don't just go invent a new enemy and continue killing and fighting. That's going to be the real challenge for the countries that engaged in the Arab Spring uprising...
"If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”
Comments by U.S. officials regarding the September 11 attack that killed four Americans in Benghazi, Libya, have provoked controversy among some critics.
The attack was conducted the previous day, on 9/11/12...
Nick, you're leaving quite a bit out about the attacks. Obama didn't give any reason why the attacks occurred. He has constantly used the word terror to describe just about any inflammatory situation in the ME. It has been used by Barry to describe acts by crowds and professional terrorists alike. Besides, I said those in his ADMINISTRATION lied, not necessarily him. Though he did also!
Those in his administration on the same date, when they knew the attacks were a coordinated terrorist attack, said the following (same URL you used):
September 12 -- White House spokesman Jay Carney, in response to questions about whether the attack was planned: "It's too early for us to make that judgment. I think -- I know that this is being investigated, and we're working with the Libyan government to investigate the incident. So I would not want to speculate on that at this time." Carney is a fucking weasel!!!
September 13 -- Jay Carney: "The protests we're seeing around the region are in reaction to this movie. They are not directly in reaction to any policy of the United States or the government of the United States or the people of the United States." Fucking Liar!
September 13. -- A senior U.S. official tells CNN that the Benghazi violence was a "clearly planned attack:
"It was not an innocent mob," the official said. "The video or 9/11 made a handy excuse and could be fortuitous from their perspective, but this was a clearly planned military-type attack."Somebody had the balls to tell it like it is...probably Hillary. She's more of a man than Obama.
September 13 -- State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland:
"Well, as we said yesterday when we were on background, we are very cautious about drawing any conclusions with regard to who the perpetrators were, what their motivations were, whether it was premeditated, whether they had any external contacts, whether there was any link, until we have a chance to investigate along with the Libyans. So I know that's going to be frustrating for you, but we really want to make sure that we do this right and we don't jump to conclusions. That said, obviously, there are plenty of people around the region citing this disgusting video as something that has been motivating."The cunt tries to blame the video again! Pathetic.
September 14 -- Jay Carney:
"We were not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi was planned or imminent."
September 16 -- Susan Rice, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, on CBS' "Face the Nation":
"We do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned."
September 18 -- Jay Carney: "Our belief based on the information we have is it was the video that caused the unrest in Cairo, and the video and the unrest in Cairo that helped -- that precipitated some of the unrest in Benghazi and elsewhere. What other factors were involved is a matter of investigation."Carney = Lying Turd
September 19 -- Jay Carney:
"It is a simple fact that there are, in post-revolution, post-war Libya, armed groups, there are bad actors hostile to the government, hostile to the West, hostile to the United States. And as has been the case in other countries in the region, it is certainly conceivable that these groups take advantage of and exploit situations that develop, when they develop, to protest against or attack either Westerners, Americans, Western sites or American sites. ... Right now I'm saying we don't have evidence at this point that this was premeditated or preplanned to coincide on a -- to happen on a specific date or coincide with that anniversary."
September 19 -- Director of National Intelligence Matthew Olson, responding to a question by Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Chairman Joe Lieberman on whether the attack was a terrorist attack:
"They were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy. ... At this point, what I would say is that a number of different elements appear to have been involved in the attack, including individuals connected to militant groups that are prevalent in eastern Libya, particularly the Benghazi area, as well we are looking at indications that individuals involved in the attack may have had connections to al Qaeda or al Qaeda affiliates, in particular al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb." Olson also said U.S. officials had no "specific evidence of significant advanced planning."Unbelievable!!!
September 20 -- Jay Carney:
"It is, I think, self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack. Our embassy was attacked violently, and the result was four deaths of American officials."Finally, Carney, you dumbass!!!
September 20 -- President Obama at a town hall meeting organized by the Spanish-language Univsion Network, responding to a question about the possible involvement of al Qaeda: "What we do know is that the natural protests that arose because of the outrage over the video were used as an excuse by extremists to see if they can also directly harm U.S. interests."Geez, what a wuss POTUS we have.
September 21 -- Hillary Clinton:
"What happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack, and we will not rest until we have tracked down and brought to justice the terrorists who murdered four Americans." She has more balls than Barry does!
September 25 -- President Obama on ABC's The View," in response interviewer Joy Behar's question, "I heard Hillary Clinton say it was an act of terrorism. Is it? What do you say?":
"We're still doing an investigation. There's no doubt that (with) the kind of weapons that were used, the ongoing assault, that it wasn't just a mob action. Barack Finally tells the truth!!!We don't have all the information yet, so we're still gathering it. But what's clear is that around the world there's still a lot of threats out there." Obama also said "extremist militias" were suspected to have been involved. Suspected, my ass!!! They knew within 24 hours a militia with a coordinated attack did it.
September 27 -- A senior U.S. official tells CNN that it became clear within about a day of the Benghazi attack that it been work of terrorists:
Separately, CNN National Security Analyst Fran Townsend reports that a law enforcement source told her that "from day one we had known clearly that this was a terrorist attack."Yet members of the O admin were blaming the movie.
September 28: Statement by Shawn Turner, spokesman for Director of National Intelligence James Clapper:
"In the immediate aftermath, there was information that led us to assess that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo. We provided that initial assessment to executive branch officials and members of Congress, who used that information to discuss the attack publicly and provide updates as they became available. Throughout our investigation we continued to emphasize that information gathered was preliminary and evolving. As we learned more about the attack, we revised our initial assessment to reflect new information indicating that it was a deliberate and organized terrorist attack carried out by extremists." Spin Spin Spin
“If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush
People need to stop blaming the video, blame the criminal not the victim.
Saying the film is shitty or disgusting is like saying the rape victim was wearing a short skirt, it's irrelevant.
Are you implying the video was some sort of victim and the film maker a criminal..?
The making and publication of the video involved no legal crime... although the filmmaker was on probation and barred from using the internet. But his right to free speech in producing the film was not criminal.
Although from a cinematic and literary quality perspective that piece of shit film was a crime against good taste standards...
"If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”
I meant that by even mentioning the video was crap or offensive as most of the media did is like making a partial excuse for the lunatic criminals that 'avenged' it.
Are you implying the video was some sort of victim and the film maker a criminal..?
The making and publication of the video involved no legal crime... although the filmmaker was on probation and barred from using the internet. But his right to free speech in producing the film was not criminal.
Although from a cinematic and literary quality perspective that piece of shit film was a crime against good taste standards...
Lack of ethics as well. The actors were lied to, and many are now suing the bastard...
"Ya know what they say about angels... An angel is a supernatural being or spirit, usually humanoid in form, found in various religions and mythologies. Plus Roth fan boards..."- ZahZoo April 2013
Comment