Toss-Up States

[Seshmeister]

My ignorance of US politics has just punched me in the face - I figured Virginnia and Florida would be safe Republican states.

Not so?

No Florida is usually one of the absolute key States like in 2000.

Virginia is also a bit of a mix, close enough to places like Washington and Maryland to be Democrat but with a big rural Republican constituency.

I think we have posters from both here who will know a hell of a lot more about it than me although they are probably the two states in the US I have had most contact with...

[BigBadBrian]

No Florida is usually one of the absolute key States like in 2000.

Virginia is also a bit of a mix, close enough to places like Washington and Maryland to be Democrat but with a big rural Republican constituency.

I think we have posters from both here who will know a hell of a lot more about it than me although they are probably the two states in the US I have had most contact with...

Sesh, you're mostly correct about Virginia. Virginia also has a huge Military/Department of Defense presence in the Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Chesapeake/Portsmouth/Suffolk/Hampton/Newport News (aka Tidewater or Hampton Roads) area of the Commonwealth that Va Beach VH Fan and I live in.

[knuckleboner]

Sesh, you're mostly correct about Virginia. Virginia also has a huge Military/Department of Defense presence in the Norfolk/Virginia Beach/Chesapeake/Portsmouth/Suffolk/Hampton/Newport News (aka Tidewater or Hampton Roads) area of the Commonwealth that Va Beach VH Fan and I live in.

also, changing demographics in virginia.

[Seshmeister]

Colorado (9) - Romney
Florida (29) - Romney
Iowa (6) -Romney
Michigan (16) - too close to call
Nevada (6) - Obama
New Hampshire (4) - Romney
Ohio (18) - Romney, barely
Pennsylvania (20) - Romney
Virginia (13) - Too close to call; currently Obama leads barely but Romney coming up fast.
Wisconsin (10) - Romney

[Nitro Express]

Romney's only shot at taking the vote legitimately in Florida is if Sheldon Adelson and the PNAC propagandists convince all the elderly Jews to buy into the NuttyYahoo propaganda about Iran.

Not that it really matters, because the legitimate vote is irrelevant in Florida, as we all know from 2000. And the last election where Allen Wackjob West was "elected" but Alan Grayson wasn't???

Henry Kissinger even said in ten years there won't be any Israel. I mean there are people there who actually believe the place will continue to exist because it's God's will. But one reason the Jews turned that wasteland into something productive if they had faith they could. So in a way religious faith is like a placebo effect. It's the same with the Mormons in Utah. They built some impressive buildings and infrastructure simply because they saw it as God's will. I think if they were just a bunch of people going into the wilderness, without that faith, no way would they have had the drive, belief, or will to do what they did. I heard one Navy Seal in an interview who said during their SEAL training they were given pills and told they would make them stronger. Then one day the pills weren't given out and some of them didn't have the strength they had before and then they were told the pills were placebos. LOL! It was all in their minds.

The thing is, World War II and The Holocaust is fading in people's minds. I think the empathy for the Jews to have their own special country is declining. The average American does not care about Israel. They just see our country falling apart and seeing that money we are giving those warmongering zionists would go to better use here. Without our money, Israel is toast.

When I was watching the election results I saw all this red in the middle and blue on the west and east coasts. I reminded me of when I took a class in college that combined economics, history, and politics into one study. We would war game future possibilities and one thing we came up with is the US would split into two or three separate countries due to religious, political, and economic differences. The west coast was one country, the east coast another and the middle was another country.

I mean the reality is if it's business as usual the conservatives and the liberals just are going to go their own way and split up. Unless there is some compromise in the middle and some real solutions get hammered out that is what is going to happen. How long it takes I have no idea. Maybe the US Federal Government has become so disfunctional it just will become it's own demise. That's kind of how I see it going.