The Fiscal Cliff talks: a framework emerges

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  • ZahZoo
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Jan 2004
    • 9178

    #91
    Haven't had to time to read what the Senate passed yet... But I'd rather call anything passed now just another "Kick the Can Down the Road" bill... The patient is hemorrhaging and congress is still playing with band-aids.
    "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49570

      #92
      Originally posted by ELVIS
      Who gives a fuck ??
      A lot of people "give a fuck."

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      • knuckleboner
        Crazy Ass Mofo
        • Jan 2004
        • 2927

        #93
        Originally posted by BigBadBrian
        kind of simplistic.

        a real family usually has LOTS of debt. mortgage, student loans, car loans.

        federal debt is only a problem if it affects inflation/interest rates. currently, it's not touching either. do we need better long-term fiscal reform? yep. but we need to be rational, not reactionary about the debt.

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #94
          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
          A lot of people "give a fuck."
          Ron Paul supporters give a fuck, but the sheeple don't...

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          • ELVIS
            Banned
            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #95
            Boehner Responds to Reid: 'Go Fuck Yourself'

            House Speaker John Boehner couldn’t hold back when he spotted Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in the White House lobby last Friday.

            It was only a few days before the nation would go over the fiscal cliff, no bipartisan agreement was in sight, and Reid had just publicly accused Boehner of running a “dictatorship” in the House and caring more about holding onto his gavel than striking a deal.

            “Go fuck yourself,” Boehner sniped as he pointed his finger at Reid, according to multiple sources present.

            Reid, a bit startled, replied: “What are you talking about?”

            Boehner repeated: “Go fuck yourself.”

            The harsh exchange just a few steps from the Oval Office — which Boehner later bragged about to fellow Republicans — was only one episode in nearly two months of high-stakes negotiations laced with distrust, miscommunication, false starts and yelling matches as Washington struggled to ward off $500 billion in tax hikes and spending cuts.


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            • ZahZoo
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Jan 2004
              • 9178

              #96
              Good for Boehner!! It's about time Washington moved back to a "Deadwood" like era of politics... Cocksuckers!!

              Reading what they passed... none of it bothers me much nor impresses me either. The one piece that sounds like the smartest thing congress has done to the tax code in the last 30 years was permanently fix that gawd-damned Alternative Minimum Tax... sucker has rose up and bit us 6 out of the last 10 years... Although I'm waiting to see how accurately they indexed it to inflation. If done right I shouldn't be able to even smell the damn thing...

              --Alternative minimum tax: Permanently addresses the alternative minimum tax and indexes it for inflation to prevent nearly 30 million middle- and upper-middle income taxpayers from being hit with higher tax bills averaging almost $3,000. The tax was originally designed to ensure that the wealthy did not avoid owing taxes by using loopholes.

              Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2GpL0bKyX
              "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 59657

                #97
                Originally posted by ELVIS
                House Speaker John Boehner couldn’t hold back when he spotted Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in the White House lobby last Friday.

                It was only a few days before the nation would go over the fiscal cliff, no bipartisan agreement was in sight, and Reid had just publicly accused Boehner of running a “dictatorship” in the House and caring more about holding onto his gavel than striking a deal.

                “Go fuck yourself,” Boehner sniped as he pointed his finger at Reid, according to multiple sources present.

                Reid, a bit startled, replied: “What are you talking about?”

                Boehner repeated: “Go fuck yourself.”

                The harsh exchange just a few steps from the Oval Office — which Boehner later bragged about to fellow Republicans — was only one episode in nearly two months of high-stakes negotiations laced with distrust, miscommunication, false starts and yelling matches as Washington struggled to ward off $500 billion in tax hikes and spending cuts.


                Sounds like Boner was drunk again
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                • Va Beach VH Fan
                  ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 17913

                  #98
                  Golly gee whiz, hope no one tell Boehner to fuck off, don't want to see him cry again....
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                  • BigBadBrian
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10625

                    #99
                    Originally posted by knuckleboner

                    federal debt is only a problem if it affects inflation/interest rates. currently, it's not touching either.
                    You're kidding, right?
                    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                    • BigBadBrian
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10625

                      Payroll taxes still go up, from 4.2% to 6.2%. For the average American Worker making $41K, that's $32 less in their paycheck they will see every 2 weeks. Serious grocery money for a family of 4.
                      “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                      • BigBadBrian
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10625

                        Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                        Golly gee whiz, hope no one tell Boehner to fuck off, don't want to see him cry again....
                        How dare he talk to a Liberal that way, huh? My only regret is he didn't say it to Obama.

                        Speaking of the Dumb-Fuck-in-Chief, he flew back to Hawaii (at a $7 Million cost) without signing the bill. Stupid Fuck!
                        “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49570

                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          House Speaker John Boehner couldn’t hold back when he spotted Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in the White House lobby last Friday.

                          It was only a few days before the nation would go over the fiscal cliff, no bipartisan agreement was in sight, and Reid had just publicly accused Boehner of running a “dictatorship” in the House and caring more about holding onto his gavel than striking a deal.

                          “Go fuck yourself,” Boehner sniped as he pointed his finger at Reid, according to multiple sources present.

                          Reid, a bit startled, replied: “What are you talking about?”

                          Boehner repeated: “Go fuck yourself.”

                          The harsh exchange just a few steps from the Oval Office — which Boehner later bragged about to fellow Republicans — was only one episode in nearly two months of high-stakes negotiations laced with distrust, miscommunication, false starts and yelling matches as Washington struggled to ward off $500 billion in tax hikes and spending cuts.


                          Boner was drinking again!

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 59657

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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49570

                              Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                              Payroll taxes still go up, from 4.2% to 6.2%. For the average American Worker making $41K, that's $32 less in their paycheck they will see every 2 weeks. Serious grocery money for a family of 4.
                              That's what you've always called for...

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                              • FORD
                                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                                • Jan 2004
                                • 59657

                                Well, now that the government seems to agree that nobody is "rich" who makes less than $400K, then the simple solution for Social Security is to raise the cap to that same level. (At least).

                                If they did that, they might even get away with leaving it at 4.2%
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