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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    #61
    I Wiki'd it for you, dumbass...

    Confiscation of civilian firearms

    Controversy arose over a September 8 city-wide order by New Orleans Police Superintendent Eddie Compass to local police, U.S. Army National Guard soldiers, and Deputy U.S. Marshals to confiscate all civilian-held firearms. "No one will be able to be armed," Compass said. "Guns will be taken. Only law enforcement will be allowed to have guns." Seizures were carried out without warrant, and in some cases with excessive force; one instance captured on film involved 58 year old New Orleans resident Patricia Konie. Konie stayed behind, in her well provisioned home, and had an old revolver for protection. A group of police entered the house, and when she refused to surrender her revolver, she was tackled and it was removed by force. Konie's shoulder was fractured, and she was taken into police custody for failing to surrender her firearm.[79][80] Even U.S. Army National Guard soldiers, armed with M16 assault rifles, were used for house to house searches, seizing firearms and attempting to get those remaining in the city to leave.[81]

    Angered citizens, backed by the National Rifle Association and other organizations, filed protests over the constitutionality of such an order and the difficulty in tracking seizures, as paperwork was rarely filed during the searches. Wayne LaPierre, CEO of the National Rifle Association, defended the right of affected citizens to retain firearms, saying that, "What we’ve seen in Louisiana - the breakdown of law and order in the aftermath of disaster - is exactly the kind of situation where the Second Amendment was intended to allow citizens to protect themselves." The searches received little news coverage, though reaction from groups such as the NRA, the Second Amendment Foundation, and Gun Owners of America was immediate and heated, and a lawsuit was filed September 22 by the NRA and SAF on behalf of two firearm owners whose firearms were seized. On September 23, the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana issued a restraining order to bar further firearms confiscations.[79]

    After refusing to admit that it had any seized firearms, the city revealed in mid-March that it did have a cache of some 1000 firearms seized after the hurricane; this disclosure came after the NRA filed a motion in court to hold the city in contempt for failure to comply with the U.S. District Court's earlier order to return all seized firearms. On April 14, 2006, it was announced that the city will begin to return seized firearms, however as of early 2008, many firearms were still in police possession, and the matter was still in court.[79] The matter was finally settled in favor of the NRA in October 2008. Per the agreement, the city was required to relax the strict proof of ownership requirements previously used, and was to release firearms to their owners with an affidavit claiming ownership and a background check to verify that the owner is legally able to possess a firearm.[82]

    Louisiana legislator Steve Scalise introduced Louisiana House Bill 760, which would prohibit confiscation of firearms in a state of emergency, unless the seizure is pursuant to the investigation of a crime, or if the seizure is necessary to prevent immediate harm to the officer or another individual. On June 8, 2006, HB 760 was signed into law.[83] 21 other states joined Louisiana in enacting similar laws. A federal law prohibiting seizure of lawfully held firearms during an emergency, the Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act of 2006, passed in the House with a vote of 322 to 99, and in the Senate by 84-16. The bill was signed into law by President Bush on October 9, 2006.[84]



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    • jacksmar
      Full Member Status

      • Feb 2004
      • 3533

      #62
      Nick, one of my clients Sweetbay Super Markets is closing 33 stores. 2000+ out of work, shortly.



      The reason I mention this is simple. This is an international company with an American arm.

      According to the OWS losers, this company should eat (heh) the profit losses and stay open But think about this: even though the company base is in Belgium , they were doing business here.

      From my point of view, the OWS losers were protesting Sweet Bay Markets. They were so ignorant of the consequences and blinded by socialism.
      They were protesting seniors trying supplement a fixed income, high school kids getting their first job, 503(c) people getting into the workforce, and plenty of etc. ( ie the public bus system that brought them to work, local vendors, and public utilities).

      Even though they were protesting "wall street", ultimately this is the result. Collectively, (the socialist mantra) this what they were protesting and that is a fact.

      Now where do I send my guys in the future that were supporting this business? Tough shit, right? That one door closes another one opens crap? Bullshit.

      No OWS loser saw the incentive to support this business for expansion and profit. And that's a fact.
      A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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      • ashstralia
        ROTH ARMY ELITE
        • Feb 2004
        • 6566

        #63
        seeing as we're having many teaspoons of our chocolate based beverage... i want 4

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        • jacksmar
          Full Member Status

          • Feb 2004
          • 3533

          #64
          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
          Actually, it began under the Bush Admin. you know, the shitstains you voted for?



          By using their Constitutionally guaranteed right to assemble and protest peacefully? Obviously, there were some fuckwits in OWS, but I suspect most of those that are have little in the way of any ideology and were there for the girls...



          So, how's the Nazi Party thing going?



          Do you say all this while wearing Kiss makeup and mimicking a bisexual lead singer? Awesome!
          You're right again of course. They should have shot a couple that were fucking with cars, businesses, and stealing. Make an example. Lesson lost from 1968.

          Don't spout your Bush bullshit asshole. The Kenya Houseboy has followed Bush's lead every step of the way. That makes you dumber than I thought possible.
          And I was done with him and the Repbs when they did not raze Fallujah.

          Ask the local sheriff about any alarms going off on my "Nazi" business. They're not answering alarms for property damage so they can answer calls where casual use fucks have stabbed each other over a bag of weed, or someones retired family member that needs help because their worthless grandkids has stolen from them for money.

          As you're worried about someone's sexuality.......... again...........I'm wondering about your proclivities for hippie protester chicks.
          You must get turned on by rancid pussies, used tampons, foul body odor, and the smell of pepper spray.

          And again, thanks for the compliment on my awesome singing.
          Last edited by jacksmar; 01-17-2013, 11:15 AM.
          A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49563

            #65
            Originally posted by ELVIS
            Now you're bashing a music fan on a music fan site ??
            Well, you can suck Gene and Paul's dicks if you want too. Not me, man...

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49563

              #66
              Originally posted by ELVIS
              I Wiki'd it for you, dumbass...

              Confiscation of civilian firearms

              Controversy arose over a September 8 city-wide order by New Orleans Police Superintendent Eddie Compass to local police, U.S. Army National Guard soldiers, and Deputy U.S. Marshals to confiscate all civilian-held firearms. "No one will be able to be armed," Compass said. "Guns will be taken. Only law enforcement will be allowed to have guns." Seizures were carried out without warrant, and in some cases with excessive force; one instance captured on film involved 58 year old New Orleans resident Patricia Konie. Konie stayed behind, in her well provisioned home, and had an old revolver for protection. A group of police entered the house, and when she refused to surrender her revolver, she was tackled and it was removed by force. Konie's shoulder was fractured, and she was taken into police custody for failing to surrender her firearm.[79][80] Even U.S. Army National Guard soldiers, armed with M16 assault rifles, were used for house to house searches, seizing firearms and attempting to get those remaining in the city to leave.[81]

              Angered citizens, backed by the National Rifle Association and other organizations, filed protests over the constitutionality of such an order and the difficulty in tracking seizures, as paperwork was rarely filed during the searches. Wayne LaPierre, CEO of the National Rifle Association, defended the right of affected citizens to retain firearms, saying that, "What we’ve seen in Louisiana - the breakdown of law and order in the aftermath of disaster - is exactly the kind of situation where the Second Amendment was intended to allow citizens to protect themselves." The searches received little news coverage, though reaction from groups such as the NRA, the Second Amendment Foundation, and Gun Owners of America was immediate and heated, and a lawsuit was filed September 22 by the NRA and SAF on behalf of two firearm owners whose firearms were seized. On September 23, the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana issued a restraining order to bar further firearms confiscations.[79]

              After refusing to admit that it had any seized firearms, the city revealed in mid-March that it did have a cache of some 1000 firearms seized after the hurricane; this disclosure came after the NRA filed a motion in court to hold the city in contempt for failure to comply with the U.S. District Court's earlier order to return all seized firearms. On April 14, 2006, it was announced that the city will begin to return seized firearms, however as of early 2008, many firearms were still in police possession, and the matter was still in court.[79] The matter was finally settled in favor of the NRA in October 2008. Per the agreement, the city was required to relax the strict proof of ownership requirements previously used, and was to release firearms to their owners with an affidavit claiming ownership and a background check to verify that the owner is legally able to possess a firearm.[82]

              Louisiana legislator Steve Scalise introduced Louisiana House Bill 760, which would prohibit confiscation of firearms in a state of emergency, unless the seizure is pursuant to the investigation of a crime, or if the seizure is necessary to prevent immediate harm to the officer or another individual. On June 8, 2006, HB 760 was signed into law.[83] 21 other states joined Louisiana in enacting similar laws. A federal law prohibiting seizure of lawfully held firearms during an emergency, the Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act of 2006, passed in the House with a vote of 322 to 99, and in the Senate by 84-16. The bill was signed into law by President Bush on October 9, 2006.[84]



              They seized the firearms because Martial Law was declared, and there were people in the French Quarter (mainly white people) that were allowed to keep their guns. And you're own link shows that many were returned...

              BTW, the Nat'l Guard armory in NO was also looted, leading to criminals to possess military ordnance. Should they have been allowed to keep that? You're "Wiki" link also takes the seizures somewhat out of context by failing to mention that heavily armed criminal gangs had taken advantage of the collapse of civil gov't and were rampaging through the city and in some cases overwhelming the police with firepower...

              But maybe Hurricane Katrina was a CIA covert operations plot to ban our guns (in NO)?
              Last edited by Nickdfresh; 01-17-2013, 12:05 PM.

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49563

                #67
                Originally posted by jacksmar
                Nick, one of my clients Sweetbay Super Markets is closing 33 stores. 2000+ out of work, shortly.



                The reason I mention this is simple. This is an international company with an American arm.

                According to the OWS losers, this company should eat (heh) the profit losses and stay open But think about this: even though the company base is in Belgium , they were doing business here.

                From my point of view, the OWS losers were protesting Sweet Bay Markets. They were so ignorant of the consequences and blinded by socialism.
                They were protesting seniors trying supplement a fixed income, high school kids getting their first job, 503(c) people getting into the workforce, and plenty of etc. ( ie the public bus system that brought them to work, local vendors, and public utilities).

                Even though they were protesting "wall street", ultimately this is the result. Collectively, (the socialist mantra) this what they were protesting and that is a fact.

                Now where do I send my guys in the future that were supporting this business? Tough shit, right? That one door closes another one opens crap? Bullshit.

                No OWS loser saw the incentive to support this business for expansion and profit. And that's a fact.
                Specifically, how did they lead a Belgium market chain to leave?
                Last edited by Nickdfresh; 01-17-2013, 12:14 PM.

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49563

                  #68
                  Originally posted by jacksmar
                  You're right again of course. They should have shot a couple that were fucking with cars, businesses, and stealing. Make an example. Lesson lost from 1968.
                  1968? Which lesson? When Chicago Police attacked antiwar protestors at the Democratic Convention and performed what is universally acknowledged was a "police riot."

                  Don't spout your Bush bullshit asshole. The Kenya Houseboy has followed Bush's lead every step of the way. That makes you dumber than I thought possible.
                  And I was done with him and the Repbs when they did not raze Fallujah.
                  If he's lockstep with Bush, why didn't you suck his dick too?

                  The Republicans weren't in Fallujah, the Marines were! You know, the war you didn't want to go too? Another fucking internet tough guy that wants to "raise" cities as long as someone else has to do the dirty work, you coward!

                  Ask the local sheriff about any alarms going off on my "Nazi" business. They're not answering alarms for property damage so they can answer calls where casual use fucks have stabbed each other over a bag of weed, or someones retired family member that needs help because their worthless grandkids has stolen from them for money.
                  What if you're not there, though? Those weapons are a prime target!

                  As you're worried about someone's sexuality.......... again...........I'm wondering about your proclivities for hippie protester chicks.
                  You must get turned on by rancid pussies, used tampons, foul body odor, and the smell of pepper spray.

                  And again, thanks for the compliment on my awesome singing.
                  Never met any OWS hippie chicks, never made it down to the Lafayette...

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49563

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                    T
                    ...

                    But maybe Hurricane Katrina was a CIA covert operations plot to ban our guns (in NO)?
                    Hell! That's it! GLOBAL WARMING is a CIA covert operation to take our guns! FUCK!

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                    • ELVIS
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 44120

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                      You're "Wiki" link also takes the seizures somewhat out of context by failing to mention that heavily armed criminal gangs had taken advantage of the collapse of civil gov't and were rampaging through the city and in some cases overwhelming the police with firepower...
                      The police were the criminals right along with the thugs, Dickforbrains...

                      Some of the police stole Caddillacs, Dickforbrains...

                      Then, Dickforbrains, the criminal police along with the National Guard, confiscated weapons, at gunpoint, from law abiding citizens at a time when they needed them most by your very admittance of thugs "rampaging through the city"...

                      You're sorely misinformed...on everything...


                      And I used Wiki for your benefit, as it's the only source you're familiar with...

                      I'm quite aware of the inaccuracies...


                      Last edited by ELVIS; 01-17-2013, 02:09 PM.

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49563

                        #71
                        Originally posted by ELVIS
                        The police were the criminals right along with the thugs, Dickforbrains...

                        Some of the police stole Caddillacs, Dickforbrains...
                        What's a "Caddillac?"

                        Then, Dickforbrains, the criminal police along with the National Guard, confiscated weapons, at gunpoint, from law abiding citizens at a time when they needed them most by your very admittance of thugs "rampaging through the city"...
                        Specifically, where? A few in outlying areas. I know people in the French Qtr. that were armed to the teeth, El-dicklick...

                        You're sorely misinformed...on everything...
                        I am? What about the conspiracy theory that the guberment blew the levees to get rid of poor black peoples in the Ninth? Apparently, that's the only conspiracy theory you never mention...

                        And I used Wiki for your benefit, as it's the only source you're familiar with...
                        Um dick, you're online 24/7 and when you're not you're listening to some radio fuckwit to determine your opinion for the next day...

                        I'm quite aware of the inaccuracies...


                        You're a retard with no more discerning ability to spot inaccuracies than a third grader stuck in your shitty Bayou educational system...

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                        • Dr. Love
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 7833

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                          You're absolutely correct, Doc, and...

                          Who's that girl!?
                          I dunno who she is ... but she's beautiful
                          I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

                          http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49563

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Dr. Love
                            I dunno who she is ... but she's beautiful
                            She has a messy bedroom, would not bang!


                            LOL Who am I kidding!?

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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49563

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                              Hell! That's it! GLOBAL WARMING is a CIA covert operation to take our guns! FUCK!
                              No comment on this plot, Elvis?

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                              • ELVIS
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 44120

                                #75
                                No, but they'll have a carbon tax for bullets, I'm sure...

                                But blaming the temperature going up a tiny bit (actually, we've been on a 15 year cooling cycle) on man being on earth is silly...

                                Volcanoes put out more carbon dioxide than man could possibly produce...

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