Syrian Chemical Weapons Kill Or Maim a 1000

[WACF]

The point that happened was this

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/09/03/pelosi_uses_conversation_with_5-year-old_grandson_to_push_for_attack_on_syria.html

Pelosi's grandson is a cunt!

I get so tired of these stories.

Did the discussion really happen or did they just regurgitate the over used "I talked to a child" story to make this simple for us common folk.

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[Kristy]

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Kirsten Dunst

Anyhoo, the whole using children babies angle to go to war has been used before


Same deal only the county has changed.

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Can you explain the Kirsten Dunst barb you're using everywhere to me please?

Muchas thanksias.

[WACF]

Kirsten Dunst

Anyhoo, the whole using children babies angle to go to war has been used before


Same deal only the county has changed.

Remember the "Unluckiest Woman in Iraq" bullshit?

Same grieving woman but different locations...

The media eats up all this shit.

[FORD]

I don't believe that Pelosi's 5 year old grandson had a meaningful conversation with her about war any more than I believe Judas IsKerryot knows all the things about the Syrian weapons that he claims he knows.

So is World War III postponed for the time being? Hopefully so........

I'm sure the Obamabots over at DU will be singing the praises of "Barry the master 12 dimensional chess player" as usual. But that's not what it looks like to me. Who is it that always wins those international chess tournaments??

Somebody named Kasparov, or Karpov, or something like that. Or maybe Putin, in this case?

But if this is true, then why is Barry meeting in secret right now with the false "Democrats" in the Senate, doing to AIPAC what Monica did to Bill

[FORD]

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Well, what did everyone think of the speech? I'm still not convinced that we should open up a can of Tomahawks, but I do think he made his points effectively and concisely...

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I also like that he seems to be open to diplomacy based on the current Russian proposal to seize Syria's weapons...

[FORD]

I think I agree with Malloy that the speech sounded somewhat "schizophrenic".

And that doesn't mean literally mentally ill in this case, but a whole double-mindedness about the whole thing. It's almost as if Barry gave the first half of his speech exactly as AIPAC had written it for him before yesterday, and then they added on the other part, after they started talking to Pooty about getting rid of Syria's chemicals, without changing the first part.

Which leaves the impression that he hasn't changed his mind about bombing Syria. And I know damn well that AIPAC/PNAC/Likud hasn't. Or ever will.

[FORD]

Just as I said, the treasonous AIPAC cocksuckers are STILL demanding war.......

"Pro-Israel" groups in United States scramble to save Syria strike resolution
By MICHAEL WILNER AND MAYA SHWAYDER
JERUSALEM POST
10/09/2013

AIPAC, AJC, WJC lobby as over 150 House members signal they will oppose measure; ZOA and other Jewish groups take less active role, believe that the question to bomb Syria is not clear cut.

WASHINGTON/NEW YORK – "Jewish" groups are preparing a blitz on Capitol Hill this week to salvage a resolution that would authorize the use of force in Syria in response to a devastating chemical weapons attack outside Damascus on August 21.

The effort, though, may be too little, too late, with over 150 House members already signaling that they will oppose the measure.

Speaking to The Jerusalem Post, an American Israel Public Affairs Committee official acknowledged the difficulty of the task ahead, calling it a “challenge well worth undertaking.”

“It’s difficult, but it’s doable,” the official said.

“Anything of this importance is often this difficult. We’re not blind to the challenge here.”

When asked about the last resolution that AIPAC pushed for in the House– which included a harsh sanctions package against Iran, aimed at bringing their oil exports down to zero– the official said his organization knew the Syria vote would be a heavier lift.

“It’s not just passing a resolution,” said the official. “It’s showing determination that the US will not stand for the use of unconventional weapons against a civilian population.”

AIPAC in sending nearly 300 activists and lobbyists to meet personally with House members on the Hill throughout the week.

“We believe there’s an overwhelming moral and strategic case,” the AIPAC official added. “If we cannot act on Iran’s proxy, Syria, employing unconventional weapons, it’s going to be very difficult to deter Iran from acquiring such weapons.”

Get the fuck out of my country, you treasonous cunt


For the Zionist Organization of America, the question of whether to bomb Syria was not clear-cut.

“There is no simple answer, no matter what your position is, whether you’re pro-Israel or pro-Arab,” said Morton Klein, president of the ZOA. “The ZOA feels if you weaken [Syrian President Bashar] Assad, then you strengthen the Muslim Brotherhood and al-Qaida, who are the largest active element in the rebels and are getting stronger. If you don’t weaken Assad, that helps Iran and Hezbollah, which are a greater threat to America, to Israel and to the West.”

“We feel that if American attacks Syria, it’s important that it be a serious strike to degrade Assad’s arms and weaken Iran and Hezbollah,” Klein continued. “We’re against a weak, nonresponse.”

Klein said that the ZOA has not done any direct lobbying on the Hill for its position, but that he had spoken with several staffers and a Congressman, who he would not name, and said that their minds are in a similar place.

“Many on the Hill are not even clear whether Assad did this or the rebels did,” he said.

Well, aside from buying into the "Al Qaeda" bullshit, at least Mort here is a little closer to sanity.....

Malcolm Hoenlein, the executive vice chairman of the Council of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, echoed Klein’s thoughts that this is a “complex and serious issue.”

“As American Jewish constituents, this is not about Israel,” Hoenlein said. “This is a strategic issue that will have broader implications.”

Since it is an “international norm” to avoid and condemn the use of chemical weapons, Hoenlein said, the US could potentially set a “dangerous precedent” in how they choose to proceed, and could open the door to Iran simply ignoring US diplomatic threats.

“The failure to uphold the international norm could be an invitation to the other members of the Axis of Evil to act in a similar manner,” Hoenlein said.

Uh, Malcolm..... has nobody told you that the "Axis of Evil" is about as real as the "Axis of Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy"??

Hoenlein, like Klein, said his organization was not doing any lobbying. But the American Jewish Committee and the World Jewish Congress’s American Section have both chosen to take an active role via letters and emails, spokeswoman for the WJC Betty Ehrenberg said.

In a statement released on September 3, the WJC said they “call on the United States Congress to support a resolution that will authorize President [Barack] Obama to take punitive action in response to the use of chemical weapons by the Assad regime.... The message must be undeniably clear to Syria and other countries – the United States will stand by its principles, hold to its redlines, and hold to account those who possess, seek and use weapons of mass destruction.”

When do we subject the terrorist NuttyYahoo to the same standards?

AJC’s executive director David Harris and AJC president Stanley Bergman announced just before Rosh Hashana that they had sent a letter to all members of the US Senate and House of Representatives, asking them to support Obama’s plan to strike.

Harris has taken a strong position pro-attack in op-eds in The Huffington Post and The Jerusalem Post, writing “If the United States now flinches, and despite our declared ‘redline,’ let’s Syria get away with the use of chemical weapons, then what is the message sent to the world?”

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AIPAC, and those evil hook nosed Jewy Jew bags aren't the only ones demanding war, Ford. EVERYONE ON THE BORDERS OF SYRIA are demanding war! The Turks, the Jordanians (facing a humanitarian nightmare of refugees driven out largely by the brutality and wanton use of ordnance by the Assad regime on civilians). They all want the Syrian regime out! So, I think people are sort of unfairly focusing on Israel and AIPAC here while forgetting the Saudis would like to see Assad buried...

[ashstralia]

Holy shit. Rupert's media is reporting a million people leaving. That's a lot of people when you add babies and the elderly into the mix...

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Incidentally, did anyone watch Rand Paul embarrass himself on CNN last night by completely contradicting himself and essentially agreeing with everything Obama said? He started out criticizing Obama (with a good point) that his proposed limited strikes allow Assad off the hook and he should perhaps be tried for war crimes. But then, he turns into a completely disingenuous base-pandering retard and states that we're helping "al Qaida" and that the collapse of the Assad regime would lead to chaos and Islamic fundies controlling Syria. Which one the fuck is it, dude?

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I think Piers Morgan, who is a bit of a cunt, also raised a good point by reading a quote from Bill Kristol (another cunt, with a good point) that the message is feel free to slaughter your people, "just don't use gas."

Piers mentioned this to Randi Paul, and it went completely over his head until explained with monosyllabic words. Why anyone takes Paul seriously is beyond me, he seems like a total lightweight...