Syrian Chemical Weapons Kill Or Maim a 1000

[FORD]

When Judas met "Hitler"........





By Ben Rankin
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Syria: Bashar al-Assad and John Kerry pictured on double date in Damascus restaurant
3 Sep 2013 08:55

The US Secretary of State was leading a peace delegation to the city at the time

The Syrian president is an unsavoury character, says US Secretary of State John Kerry.

But this image shows a double date in Damascus in 2009 in which he appears more to his taste.

The then Massachusetts Governor, who has compared the leader to Adolf Hitler, was pictured in a restaurant with Bashar al-Assad and their wives as he led a peace delegation to the city.

The photo emerged just days after Mr Kerry unveiled “compelling” evidence that Assad’s forces had carried out a chemical attack in a rebel-held area of Damascus.

And he said the US had hair and blood samples proving sarin was used.

Mr Kerry told CNN: “Blood and hair samples that have come to us through an appropriate chain of custody from Damascus, from first responders, tested positive for signatures of Sarin.”

Assad blames rebels for the gas attack.

[sadaist]

Assad blames rebels for the gas attack.

Me too. He had nothing to gain, was already winning, and stood to lose everything if he used them.

[sadaist]

sorry guys. my eyes are wigging out tonight and hard to see. but syria has a large amount of lithium. follow the money?

[FORD]

The fact is, Judas & Barry have no goddamn idea who launched the gas.

Could have been ASSad
Could have been the rebels
Could have been elements within the Syrian government who hate ASSad and want him gone
Could have been Mossad/BCE/CIA false flag operations (I'll leave it up to Elvis to post the Alex Jones theory)

All said though, ASSad actually seems like the least likely suspect, for obvious reasons. He doesn't want to go out like Saddam or Gadaffy.

[FORD]

sorry guys. my eyes are wigging out tonight and hard to see. but syria has a large amount of lithium. follow the money?

I did not know that, but I'm not surprised, since it's also true of other countries in the region. Not the least of which is Afghanistan.

So add the lithium to the natural gas pipelines and the possible oil in the Golan Heights, and it seems like a whole lot of money to be made and resources to be stolen there...........

[Seshmeister]

By Ben Rankin
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Syria: Bashar al-Assad and John Kerry pictured on double date in Damascus restaurant
3 Sep 2013 08:55

The US Secretary of State was leading a peace delegation to the city at the time

The Syrian president is an unsavoury character, says US Secretary of State John Kerry.

But this image shows a double date in Damascus in 2009 in which he appears more to his taste.

The then Massachusetts Governor, who has compared the leader to Adolf Hitler, was pictured in a restaurant with Bashar al-Assad and their wives as he led a peace delegation to the city.

The photo emerged just days after Mr Kerry unveiled “compelling” evidence that Assad’s forces had carried out a chemical attack in a rebel-held area of Damascus.

And he said the US had hair and blood samples proving sarin was used.

Mr Kerry told CNN: “Blood and hair samples that have come to us through an appropriate chain of custody from Damascus, from first responders, tested positive for signatures of Sarin.”

Assad blames rebels for the gas attack.

I really don't see anything wrong with that, in fact it puts him in a better position to call Assad a thug or like Hitler.

It's good to meet the other guy even if only to see if they are how you think they are.

How many fights on here over the years would that have stopped?

You know the history better than me but I can't think of many if any fights between posters who had previously met in real life.

[Nickdfresh]

By Ben Rankin
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Syria: Bashar al-Assad and John Kerry pictured on double date in Damascus restaurant
3 Sep 2013 08:55

The US Secretary of State was leading a peace delegation to the city at the time

The Syrian president is an unsavoury character, says US Secretary of State John Kerry.

But this image shows a double date in Damascus in 2009 in which he appears more to his taste.

The then Massachusetts Governor, who has compared the leader to Adolf Hitler, was pictured in a restaurant with Bashar al-Assad and their wives as he led a peace delegation to the city.

The photo emerged just days after Mr Kerry unveiled “compelling” evidence that Assad’s forces had carried out a chemical attack in a rebel-held area of Damascus.

And he said the US had hair and blood samples proving sarin was used.

Mr Kerry told CNN: “Blood and hair samples that have come to us through an appropriate chain of custody from Damascus, from first responders, tested positive for signatures of Sarin.”

Assad blames rebels for the gas attack.

Well, that's a bit of a "gotcha" photo, Ford. Firstly, U.S. diplomats also met Hitler, before WWII. Secondly, there were signs back in the late 2000's that Assad was pushing for liberalization of the Syrian political system and for a greater openness. No one saw the savage crackdown coming a few years later...

[Nickdfresh]

sorry guys. my eyes are wigging out tonight and hard to see. but syria has a large amount of lithium. follow the money?

They've also had a lot of killing going on now for over three years. And this is probably at least the third rebellion against the Assad dynasty, one of the previous bloodier ones took place in the 1980's with Assads dad, Kim Il Assad, using heavy artillery on civilians in one of the major cities that is the epicenter of the current revolt

I think trying to distill everything down to money/oil pipelines/Hello Kitty collections is a bit silly at this point. They've been killing each other for years, only this time the insurrection is far more effective due to the historical circumstances and the ease of access to weapons. The real reason isn't the fucking same old "pipeline" story - it's that Syria is a multinational single state --not a nation-state was we know it!-- that was cobbled together by the British, who always managed to fuck things up in their colonial history, and inevitably leads to conflicts and civil wars. Did the Hutus want to slaughter all of the Tutsis in Rwanda over an oil pipeline? Did Nazi Germany and their allies want to kill all the Jews for gold in their teeth? You guys are way too logical and I would say naive and looking for a logical, rational reason for the slaughter, because that would actually comfort you if there were some unseen hand orchestrating the violence for some higher purpose --no matter how nefarious. My friends, there is no rationality here - they are killing each other over power and control and decades of sheer hatred and loathing of the "other". Nothing else...

[vandeleur]

I apologise to nick on behalf of the previous British empire for being a bit crap .
Though I will add this most nations are built up of multi ethnic/multi states or groups and manage to live on the whole in peace .
Fuck knows why civilisation throws up these murdering fuck heads who become state heads .
But at the end of the day it's not history or geography or any thing else that is responsible for the Syrian crisis but the cunts in the Assad regime . To give other reasons for these atrocities deflects blame from the evil men who have done these things.

[FORD]

So Judas IsKerryot doesn't think what he and Barry are planning to do to Syria qualifies as "war"?

I know somebody who would disagree with you, Judas........

"We veterans can only look with amazement on the fact that this country has been unable to see there is absolutely no difference between ground troops and a helicopter crew, and yet people have accepted a differentiation fed them by the administration. No ground troops are in Laos, so it is all right to kill Laotians by remote control. But believe me the helicopter crews fill the same body bags and they wreak the same kind of damage on the Vietnamese and Laotian countryside as anybody else and the President is talking about allowing this to go on for many years to come. One can only ask if we will really be satisfied only when the troops march into Hanoi."

- John Kerry, 22 April 1971

Maybe Secretary IsKerryot needs to talk to this guy?

[baru911]

You have bad guys on both sides of a civil war killing one another. Letting them finish what they started might be a better solution to the situation. Just when you thought we might be getting out of the neighborhood...oh, well.

[ODShowtime]

I read that bashar's younger brother maher is a hothead. He runs state security and was leading the elite government forces to destroy the rebellion. He lost an arm and a leg to a rebel bombing last July.

One would think he'd have access to the chemical arms. Maybe he just did it out of revenge?

Of course the oldest brother was going to take the helm in Syria before he died in a car accident in 94, so they had to get the weird middle brother who was an eye doctor.

The assad story is really not very far at all from the Godfather. They're just a bunch of gangsters. This maher guy profited off the oil-for-food program in Iraq through his Lebanese banking connections and most likely lots of other human suffering as well. Bummer about your leg dude.

[fraroc]

This seems like 2003 all over again, we're going to invade Syria, more troops are going to be depoloyed, so many Syrian civilians are going to die by our hand, more military families are going to lose sons, daughters, mothers and fathers and for what? The government can't use the "this is a war on terrorism" excuse anymore, not a lot of Americans are gonna buy it.

This is sadly another case of Land+Money=Power

[FORD]

[FORD]

And now, for the LEAST surprising news of the week.......

AIPAC Endorses War With Syria, Will Help Obama Lobby Congress
By: DSWright Wednesday September 4, 2013 7:23 am


Pro-Israel lobby group AIPAC has decided to endorse President Obama’s military attack on Syria apparently unconcerned about a wider war threatening Israeli interests. According to AIPAC’s statement, part of the motivation for support are concerns over Iran developing a nuclear weapon.

AIPAC’s all in on Syria. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the nation’s primary pro-Israel lobbying group, has broken its silence on Syria, calling for members of Congress to vote in favor of a resolution giving President Barack Obama express authority to launch strikes against President Bashar Assad’s regime…

“America’s allies and adversaries are closely watching the outcome of this momentous vote. This critical decision comes at a time when Iran is racing toward obtaining nuclear capability,” AIPAC wrote. “Failure to approve this resolution would weaken our country’s credibility to prevent the use and proliferation of unconventional weapons and thereby greatly endanger our country’s security and interests and those of our regional allies.”


So war with Syria opens the door to war with Iran? Are some people counting on these “limited” strikes leading to a wider war?

Those concerned about Israel’s security should also consider what those fighting Assad think about Israel. Free Syrian Army Chief of Staff Salim Idris, for instance – that’s the rebel group not directly linked to Al Qaeda – said “Israel Is an Enemy Country.” The rebels both Al Qaeda and non Al Qaeda like the SFA led by Idris will be the chief beneficiaries of any weakening of Assad.

Salim Idris: As for us being Israeli collaborators – the only Israeli collaborator in the region is the criminal Bashar. The Israeli collaborators are the people who put on the show of the 2006 war – Hizbullah and its leader Hassan Nasrallah. They diverted all their forces to the slaughtering of Syrians. Their scheme is totally clear. They used to hide behind the pretext of resistance and the fight against Israel, but now it has become clear that they are implementing a sectarian, Iranian, Safavid plan in the region.


Israel is an enemy country. I say this loud and clear. It occupies Syrian lands. The FSA will not change its position regarding that country before [Israel] withdraws from the Syrian lands, and recognizes the legitimate rights of the Arab Palestinian people. [Then] we will abide by the decision of the Arab people of Syria.

Of course if America does launch a unilateral strike against Syria for alleged chemical weapons use, it will be pretty hard to tell the Israelis not to strike Iran’s nuclear facilities. In any case, this is a very dangerous game to be playing.