Teabaggers Roots go back to Dallas, 1963

[Terry]

Oswald did it.

Alone.

When I strip away the rumor, conjecture, inuuendo and supposition utilized to suggest alternative scenarios and reflect on what is fact and actually provable it is clear Oswald acted alone.

[ELVIS]

1) He has the perfect psychiatric background and reports to be a lone nut gunman
2) He was found to be an excellent shot in the marines
3) Earlier in the year he purchases a rifle and tries to assassinate an anti communist retired general
4) He goes to work at the book depository and then disappears during and after the shooting, the murder weapon, his rifle is found at the scene.
5) People see a guy who looks like him shooting at the motorcade from the depository
6) He gets a taxi away from the scene for the first time in his life, the equivalent in those days of one of us getting a helicopter
7) When challenged by a cop because he fits that description of the shooter he kills him.

8)Eye-witnesses put Oswald in the Cafeteria of the Texas Schoolbook Depository at the precise time the first shot hit JFK...

[ELVIS]

it is clear Oswald acted alone.

Bullllllllllllllcrap!!!

And to think I clicked on this thread because I saw that you posted in it...

[Seshmeister]

8)Eye-witnesses put Oswald in the Cafeteria of the Texas Schoolbook Depository at the precise time the first shot hit JFK...

So that explains him running away and then shooting cops afterwards?

[Seshmeister]

I thoroughly recommend trying the simulation

http://www.fileplanet.com/192027/download/JFK-Reloaded-v1.1-(Free-Game)

Put all the accuracy settings to max, it was written a while ago when PCs were slower than your phone is now.

I'm not saying it's completely faultlessly accurate but it does give you a good idea of the speeds and the distances. The vulnerability of the target in modern terms is unthinkable. Also you have the VP a couple of cars behind in an open top too?

It looks like hitting the people in the presidents car would be pretty straightforward. after that it's down to luck. I think Oswald just got lucky.

It's a terrible thing to admit but it's actually quite good fun, for maximum carnage initially aim for the drivers and remember to allow for the bullet drop...

[SunisinuS]

A new documentary showed the bullet that hit JFK in the head came from a hungover secret service agent. He shot him by mistake. Whether Lee Harvey actually fired is dubious - the rifle was a piece of Italian junk - so unlikely.

Did a search for that referenced and still have not found a doc with that spin....got a link?

The 1992 book as of course been out 11 years but have not found the doc you mentioned.

My favorite version of events is of course Tikka to Ride:

[Seshmeister]

Patsy was the term Oswald used himself. Right before known BCE puppet Jack Ruby shot him in the gut.

Apparently the BCE/CIA didn't think the case was strong enough.... so they sent in their old pal Jack Ruby to make sure a trial was never necessary.

Ruby was a small time hustler not a mobster as people try an portray him never mind a CIA operative.

Judging by his statements and letters afterwards he seems to have been nuts too.

[Zing!]

The 1992 book as of course been out 11 years but have not found the doc you mentioned

I saw it on the Reelz channel - called "JFK: The Smoking Gun." Pretty interesting and not any more unlikely than LHO shooting alone.

[Satan]

Documentation of Ruby's long association with the BCE.....

[Nickdfresh]

Calling Oswald a "good marksman" doesn't really mean anything. He was about as good as anybody else in the Marines at that time. Not to mention the rifle he allegedly had was a low end piece of crap that wasn't really capable of doing what the dragonshit Warren Commission report claims he did with it.

With a Carcano 38? Very low end. Even a pickle-barrel made Mauser is a much better weapon. I have personally fired that rifle and can tell you they are the most inaccurate piece of shit next to an AK - particularity at the range that Oswald allegedly fired it.

The Carcanos were not very good military rifles overall, as not much the Italian military had in WWII could be called "good." But it's all relative. Firstly, a rifle can only be accurate if sited in properly by the shooter. You can plink at shit all day, but If the rifle wasn't sited into your own eyes and zeroed properly, you won't hit shit with them regardless of their accuracy. The Carcanos were not great, but that's compared to the other service rifles at the time like the German Mauser, the American M-1 Garand/Springfield, and the excellent Lee Enfield. That doesn't mean a properly used weapon wasn't more than serviceable enough, they killed more than a few Commonwealth and U.S. soldiers in WWII. Secondly, Oswald's shot wasn't particularly hard nor at long range and the shot and Oswald's purported actions were replicated by an Australian mercenary working with a Discovery Channel crew and showed to be far more plausible than the silly second shooter/Corsican Mafia, etc. conspiracy shit. I believe the weapon he used did jam in one of the simulations, but otherwise he had little trouble obliterating the JFK melon driving in the same distance and angle as JFK was from Oswald with multiple shots...

[Nickdfresh]

A new documentary showed the bullet that hit JFK in the head came from a hungover secret service agent. He shot him by mistake. Whether Lee Harvey actually fired is dubious - the rifle was a piece of Italian junk - so unlikely.

The speculation is that a Secret Service agent was toting a then rather new M-16 rifle, but there isn't much evidence to support it. And again, "Italian junk" is very relative. The standard Jim Garrison condemnation of the Carcano as "junk" comes from chauvinistic and nationalistic notions of American and Commonwealth soldiers in WWII that tended to look down on anything Italian. But I assure you, the high velocity and very unstable 6.5mm bullet fired by the Carcano is quite capable of doing horrific ballistic damage that happened to JFK that day...

[Satan]

Poppy Bush observing the aftermath of the operation he supervised......




When asked where he was on 11/22/63, this treasonous terrorist training heroin smuggler - unlike anybody else alive on planet Earth and more than 3 years old at the time - says "I can't remember".

Well, the picture says otherwise, George.

[Nickdfresh]

Patsy was the term Oswald used himself. Right before known BCE puppet Jack Ruby shot him in the gut.

I hear most guys in prison are also "innocent." And he may have been a "patsy," but he was also a cop killer that opened fire without much hesitation...

[Seshmeister]

I don't think it looks like him.

The evidence for him being a CIA operative at that time never mind being involved is just supposition based on guesses built on wishful thinking.

It's like the Obama birther thing..

[Satan]

I don't think it looks like him.

The evidence for him being a CIA operative at that time never mind being involved is just supposition based on guesses built on wishful thinking.

It's like the Obama birther thing..

To the contrary, the boats used in the Bay of Pigs CIA operation were named the "Houston", the "Zapata" and the "Barbara J".

Houston was Poppy's alleged hometown, and base of his cover, Zapata petroleum. And Barbara J. Crowley Pierce Bush..... well we all know who that is.

Poppy supervised the Bay of Pigs, and he supervised Dallas. Unfortunately, only one of those operations was a failure.