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Joseph Kennedy was as big of a scumbag as you could find. Rose Kennedy seemed like a decent person who wanted to divorce Joe for his womanizing but in those days good catholics didn't get divorced. JFK was a weird mix of his father and mother. He was far from perfect but he loved his country and wasn't anti-american like the string of presidents we have had the misfortune to have in office. He tried to keep us out of a war for profit. He tried to get US Dollars issued by the government interest free instead of being a slave to the Federal Reserve Bank. He tried to break up a corrupt intelligence agency that had too much power.
What he did with other women was between him and Mrs. Kennedy. As far as I can see, he wasn't screwing the American people so give the guy a break. I doubt blowing her husband's brains all over her was doing Mrs. Kennedy a favor. I doubt that would qualify for a thank you card.Last edited by Nitro Express; 11-25-2013, 05:10 PM.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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You mortals should ask Arlen Specter what he thinks of that "magic bullet" theory now.
Let's just say it's one of the main reasons he's here......
Gerald Ford too, for that matter. He wouldn't have necessarily come to Hell for pardoning Nixon. But chairing that fraudulent Warren Commission.... that's what brought him here.Eternally Under the Authority of Satan
Originally posted by SockfuckerComment
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They originally thought the driver did it because in the original uncleaned up film, you can see a shadow of what looks like a gun as the driver turns around. But in the restored version it's clear it was just the shadow or glow of the sun glowing off the hair of the passenger ridding in the front of the car next to the driver.Comment
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Didn't I read somewhere that Sen Kennedy was swayed by Sen Byrd ( a former KKK member) to vote against an earlier civil rights bill in the late 50's fearing a loss of southern votes? I swear politicians will whore themselves out to anyone or anything that will keep them in power...racists, corporations, anything.Comment
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The BCE had nothing to do with Pontius Pilate. Goddamn, Socky... don't you ever listen to the Stones??
And I was 'round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate
so in other words, that one was all on me.
And I won't speak for FORD, but the BCE knows damn well where I'm at. Because it's their future eternal home as well......
Eternally Under the Authority of Satan
Originally posted by SockfuckerComment
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Kennedy is a bit too highly rated in terms of presidential rankings.
The JFK myth has always been a bit overblown, and much of it was based on great things people assume he MIGHT have accomplished had he lived.
It's just as easy to imagine Kennedy's second term resulting in Civil Rights legislation proposals that Kennedy didn't have a chance of getting through Congress (the whole biz was basically DOA in the weeks leading up to his death in terms of the chances that any actual laws would result from whatever Kennedy's ambitions were, because JFK's relations with Congress were pretty abysmal). Along with the Bobby Baker scandal that was unfolding when Kennedy died, and the Baker connections to Ellen Rometsch, which could potentially have led to the resignation of LBJ and also exposed Kennedy's extramarital affairs in a manner that would be too big for the Fourth Estate to turn a blind eye to.
As for Vietnam, virtually all of the advisors surrounding LBJ in 1964 onwards were holdovers from the Kennedy Administration. Kennedy significantly increased the number of military personnel in that country, and regardless of Kennedy's intent to withdraw from Vietnam after he was re-elected, events could well have overtaken those intentions.
So much of JFK's historical 'greatness' comes as a result of him having died young and not having much of a chance to grapple with turning his visions of the New Frontier into realities.Scramby eggs and bacon.Comment
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In terms of cinematography and the imagery Stones opts to present, I think he's done a lot of very interesting flicks.
In terms of the heavy-handedness of the messages his various movies impart, I'd certainly agree Stone is about as subtle as a knee to the groin.
I enjoyed much of what he did right up until U-Turn. After that, well...I liked the camerawork on Any Given Sunday, but found it too long and packed with characters I didn't give a shit about. W was pretty much tripe. World Trade Center was kind of dull. Basically, up until U-Turn, even if I didn't like certain Stone movies I at least didn't find them boring. After 1998, he just ran out of gas.Scramby eggs and bacon.Comment
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