Did The Russians or Russian Rebels Shoot Down a Malaysian Airliner?

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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    Wrongly not wrong.
    No, incorrectly would be correct...

    Wrongly is used more appropriately to imply without justice or fairness...

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    • DLR Bridge
      ROCKSTAR

      • Mar 2011
      • 5470

      Originally posted by ELVIS
      Hahahaha...

      C'mon dude...

      The whole PC, anti-word campaign is a manipulative tool designed to keep people fighting over an issue that wouldn't even exist otherwise...

      I have a right to un-polite speech and I exercise it as much as possible in order to keep freedom alive...

      Stop being told what to think...

      And you also have a nice day, sighting...
      Yeah, I walked into that 'cite' one.

      Look, take what I'm saying from a different angle. For example, you come here and spit the biblical verb with the intent of enlightening others, not to brag that you're better off for having found enlightenment, correct? Well, by recommending you take into consideration the repercussions of perpetuating the use of hateful words and demeaning sentiments (if you'll recall, I first came at you for your harsh assumptions, not your use of N) I'm in a sense, offering you a bit of enlightenment. No one wants to keep freedom from being alive, so say what you will when you must, but at least bare in mind, that there are more tactful, and intelligent ways of voicing your displeasure with something without the vitriolic rhetoric. Oh, and by the way, no one is telling me what to think, believe me.


      Now... is there any official word on who the fuck shot this plane down yet??

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        I hear you dude and I respect your thoughts...

        I try to be entertaining and informative, and some of what I say is just schtick to get a rise out of people...

        But I am a serious person and I've let some anger (righteous anger, I should say) out onto these boards...

        I do know certain things are hurtful to some people, and for that I apologize...

        I'm not a bad guy and I should be slower to react to some of the stuff I read...

        Thanks dude...

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          Originally posted by DLR Bridge

          Now... is there any official word on who the fuck shot this plane down yet??
          Not that I know of, but the western world seems adamant to pin it on Putin without a shred of evidence...

          The globalists need a huge war to get bogged down in so they can borrow more money and keep it going...

          Perpetual war seems to be the new global economy...

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          • DONNIEP
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Mar 2004
            • 13373

            Originally posted by ELVIS
            I try to be entertaining and informative, and some of what I say is just schtick to get a rise out of people...
            And they fall for it every time
            American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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            • DLR Bridge
              ROCKSTAR

              • Mar 2011
              • 5470

              Man, that sucks. Pretty disturbing what this human Mr. Potato head has to say regarding treatment of the cite (sight )

              U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry says “drunken separatists” are interfering with the MH17 investigation.

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              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                Originally posted by DONNIEP
                And they fall for it every time
                Because they're so smart and clever...

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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  Originally posted by DLR Bridge
                  Man, that sucks. Pretty disturbing what this human Mr. Potato head has to say regarding treatment of the cite (sight )
                  Kerry is turning into Doctor Death, just look at the guy...

                  He's pure evil...

                  Pure evil...

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                  • Anonymous
                    Banned
                    • May 2004
                    • 12749

                    Originally posted by DLR Bridge
                    Yeah, I walked into that 'cite' one.
                    I honestly didn't mean to cause you this much aggravation. It was just a throwaway joke.

                    But don't worry... they'll all get their comeuppance... eventually.

                    Cheers!

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                    • DLR Bridge
                      ROCKSTAR

                      • Mar 2011
                      • 5470

                      Originally posted by Imapus Sylicker
                      I honestly didn't mean to cause you this much aggravation. It was just a throwaway joke.

                      But don't worry... they'll all get their comeuppance... eventually.

                      Cheers!
                      No aggravation. I genuinely booted that word. Some of these grammatical corrections smarten a guy up!

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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        Photo evidence shows Ukraine regime delivering Buk missiles to troops

                        Media in West insist Russia delivered Buk systems to separatists...

                        Infowars

                        California Republican and House Foreign Affairs Chairman Ed Royce criticized the Obama administration for not sending weapons to the regime in Kyiv.

                        He said inaction by the administration has allowed Russian arms transfers to separatists in eastern Ukraine.

                        “Up until now, the administration has not really helped Ukraine on the ground so you’ve got this massive influx of Russian agents and Russian heavy weaponry and we haven’t done anything in response,” Royce said on CNN.

                        Royce said Russia has transferred tanks, rocket launchers and other military equipment to the separatists. He did not provide evidence of the transfer.

                        The regime in Kyiv has acted as the source for the allegations.

                        MH17 shoot down blame game

                        On Saturday the regime said it had proof that Russia provided the surface-to-air missile system that shot down MH17.

                        According to The New York Times:

                        At a news conference in Kiev, Vitaly Nayda, the head of counterintelligence for the Ukrainian State Security Service, displayed photographs that he said showed the three Buk-M1 missile systems on the road to the Russian border.

                        Nayda’s accusation is countered by an Associated Press report from July that contains a photograph showing the Ukranian military deliveirng Buk antiaircraft launchers in Sloviansk, a city in the Donetsk Oblast where separatists are opposing the Kyiv regime.


                        Ukrainian government forces maneuver antiaircraft missile launchers Buk as they are transported north-west from Slavyansk, eastern Ukraine Friday, July 4, 2014.

                        Ukrainian officials and the corporate media are now claiming Russia has covertly moved Buk launchers out of easter Ukraine.

                        “Three missile launchers trespassed the Ukraine border on July 18,” said Nayda from Kyiv.

                        He said Russian military officers accompanied the units as they moved across the border.


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                        • ELVIS
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 44120

                          Ukrainian forces win more ground in eastern Ukraine

                          KIEV, Ukraine -- Fighting in eastern Ukraine left at least nine Ukrainian soldiers dead Friday, as government troops pressed their offensive against pro-Russian insurgents using heavy artillery and combat jets and prospects of a truce appeared dim.

                          Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said Ukraine was ready to conduct another round of talks between representatives from Ukraine, Russia and the rebels on Saturday, but didn't name their venue. Two previous rounds of such negotiations held during a 10-day cease-fire have yielded no visible progress, but they brought the warring parties together for the first time.

                          Moscow strongly pushed for extending the truce and holding more talks in an apparent hope to negotiate a settlement that would allow it to secure a degree of influence over the neighbour. The continuing fighting is putting more pressure on Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has been facing increasingly angry nationalist demands to send troops to help the insurgency -- a move that would inevitably trigger crippling Western sanctions.

                          Ukraine's National Security Council chief Andriy Parubiy said Friday that Russia was massing troops near the Ukrainian border and claimed that it let insurgents attack the Ukrainian border posts from its side. The statements could not be independently verified.

                          The two neighbours, who share a 2,000-kilometre (1,250-mile) border that is unmarked and unguarded outside of a few checkpoints, have been trading claims and counterclaims ever since Ukraine began fighting pro-Russia separatists in April.

                          The government said nine troops were killed and 13 others were wounded in Friday's fighting in the east, according to the Interfax news agency. It did not elaborate on where or how the deaths occurred.

                          Valentyn Nalyvaychenko, the head of Ukraine's SBU security service, told journalists that over the past four days 20 Russian tanks or armoured vehicles had illegally crossed the border to take part in the insurgency.

                          Ukraine says Russia is arming and supporting the separatists, a charge that Russia denies. For its part, Moscow has repeatedly accused Ukrainian troops of firing shells that landed on the Russian side and on one occasion last month hit a Russian border post, wounding one customs officer. Russian border guards said 10 artillery shells flew from the Ukrainian side Friday, but no one was injured.

                          It is nearly impossible to prove or dispel the claims from the opposing sides, since the fighting consists of intermittent clashes between small units with no fixed front line and it is deadly dangerous for journalists and other observers to travel around. Five journalists have been killed covering the conflict and several teams of observers from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe have been kidnapped by rebels.


                          Russia has proposed hosting both OSCE observers and Ukrainian officers at its border checkpoints to prove it wasn't fueling the mutiny.

                          The Russian Foreign Ministry on Friday accused Poroshenko's government of dragging its feet on holding another round of negotiations to resume a truce and accused it of using cluster munitions against civilians.

                          Parubiy said government forces were attacking rebel positions in eastern Ukraine with artillery and planes and that 17 villages had been recaptured since a unilateral cease-fire expired Monday. He said Ukrainian forces now controlled 23 of the 36 local regions within the Donetsk and Luhansk provinces that have declared independence.

                          Andrei Purgin of the separatist Donetsk People's Republic dismissed the government's report.

                          "Maybe they occupied 17 villages of some sort, but there wasn't a single militia fighter there," he said.

                          Insurgents in Luhansk said Friday they have killed 125 Ukrainian troops, destroyed nine armoured vehicles and downed three combat aircraft since Wednesday.

                          Both sides' claims of enemy losses have proven exaggerated in the past, however.

                          Friday's fighting centred on the outskirts of Slovyansk, a city in the Donetsk region that has been a key flashpoint in the fighting. The military reported to Poroshenko that they flushed the insurgents out of Mykolaivka on the outskirts of Slovyansk, capturing 50 of them.

                          Rebels also shelled the Donetsk airport overnight, and an AP reporter who visited the site saw a radar or communications tower there still burning Friday.

                          The mutiny in eastern Ukraine, which erupted in mid-April after the ouster of the nation's pro-Moscow president and the subsequent Russia's annexation of Crimea, has killed more than 400 people, according to the United Nations.

                          The crisis in Ukraine has strained ties between Russia and the West to a degree unseen since the Cold War, prompting NATO to consider long-term responses to Moscow's apparent new willingness to flex its military might.

                          To that end, NATO and Russia both launched navy exercises Friday in the Black Sea.

                          NATO's drills in the western part of the Black Sea just a few hundred miles from Ukraine's coast involve ships from the U.S., Bulgaria, Greece, Romania and Turkey. They were to continue until July 13.

                          Russia's Black Sea Fleet fielded about 20 ships and more than 20 aircraft for its manoeuvrs, which included missile launches at practice targets.


                          Last edited by ELVIS; 07-21-2014, 09:53 AM.

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                          • PETE'S BROTHER
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 12678

                            Originally posted by vandeleur
                            Was this the dramatic one that ended with tranny porn ?
                            there is one that doesn't?
                            Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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                            • PETE'S BROTHER
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 12678

                              Originally posted by ELVIS

                              I try to be entertaining and informative,
                              Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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                              • VetteLS5
                                Commando
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 1130

                                Originally posted by PETE'S BROTHER
                                You forgot the dick swinging guy flashing the peace symbols. That thing fucking cracks me up.

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