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[Nickdfresh]

Oh were you in four years or six years? Or were you too high and drunk to remember?

LOL Which DD214? Make sure you have the dates on that one!

Just steal someone's and send him that!

I probably can get your DD214 BTW if you want to get into personal info, and you said you in in the Navy from 1981 to 84' that thread...

Really? Three years now, but you got an honorable?

[cadaverdog]

I probably can get your DD214 BTW if you want to get into personal info

That's probably a federal offense but if you're feeling froggy.....

and you said you in in the Navy from 1981 to 84' that thread...
Really? Three years now, but you got an honorable?

For a guy who supposedly served in the military you sure don't know much. The Navy owned me for 6 years from the day I signed up but I served a little less than three years on active duty. 9 months active and 3 months in the active reserve the first year and two years of active I agreed to to get out of 5 more years in the active reserve. Finishing the last two years of active without getting tossed out got me an Honorable.

[Nickdfresh]

That's probably a federal offense but if you're feeling froggy.....

LOL Okay...

For a guy who supposedly served in the military you sure don't know much. The Navy owned me for 6 years from the day I signed up but I served a little less than three years on active duty. 9 months active and 3 months in the active reserve the first year and two years of active I agreed to to get out of 5 more years in the active reserve. Finishing the last two years of active without getting tossed out got me an Honorable.

Really, because it's EIGHT years, idiot!

Which shows you're just a lying troll...

Everyone who enlists in the United States Military, whether it's for active duty (full time) or National Guard/Reserves (part time) incurs a MINIMUM eight-year service obligation. That's right -- when you sign on the dotted line, you commit yourself for eight years!

https://www.thebalance.com/period-of-time-to-enlist-in-military-3354093

Do you panhandle people on the street telling them what a "poor old veteran" you are? Scumbag@!

[Seshmeister]

The TV listing in the Sunday Newspaper here today...

[cadaverdog]

LOL Okay...




Really, because it's EIGHT years, idiot!

Which shows you're just a lying troll...

https://www.thebalance.com/period-of-time-to-enlist-in-military-3354093

I joined in 1981. It was only six years then. Read the very last paragraph if you can actually read you ignorant bastard.
SUBJECT: Fulfilling the Military Service Obligation (MSO)


References: (a) DoD Directive 1304.25, subject as above, March 17, 1986 (hereby canceled)

(b) Title 10, United States Code

(c) DoD Instruction 1200.15, "Assignment to and Transfer Between Reserve Categories, Discharge from Reserve Status, Transfer to the Retired Reserve, and Notification of Eligibility for Retired Pay," September 18, 1997

(d) DoD Directive 1215.13, "Reserve Component Member Participation Policy," December 14, 1995

(e) through (k), see enclosure 1

1. REISSUANCE AND PURPOSE

This Instruction:

1.1. Reissues reference (a) as a DoD Instruction under the authority of reference (b).

1.2. Implements policy, and updates procedures and responsibilities under Sections 10145, 10146, 10204, 12103, and 651 of reference (b) for fulfillment of the statutory MSO.

2. APPLICABILITY

This Instruction applies to the Office of the Secretary of Defense and the Military Departments (including the Coast Guard when it is not operating as a Military Service in the Navy by agreement with the Department of Transportation), the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Unified Commands (hereafter referred to collectively as "the DoD Components"). The term "Military Services," as used herein, refers to the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, the Marine Corps, and the Coast Guard.

3. DEFINITIONS


3.1. Discharge. Complete severance from all military status gained by an enlistment, appointment, or induction.

3.2. Enlistment and Appointment. The voluntary initial entry of a person into any of the Military Services.

3.3. Induction. When authorized by law, the involuntary (or voluntary) assignment of eligible citizens to a Military Service.

3.4. Military Service Obligation (MSO). The total required service that each person who becomes a member of a Military Service shall serve in a Military Service discharged under regulations prescribed by the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of the Military Department concerned.

3.5. Separation. A general term that includes discharge, release from active duty, release from custody and control of the Military Services, transfer to the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR), and similar changes in active or Reserve status.

4. POLICY

It is DoD policy under 10 U.S.C. (reference (b)) that:

4.1. Every person, on initial entry into a Military Service, shall serve a total of 8 years, to be fulfilled, in accordance with this Instruction.

4.2. The MSO for any person whose initial entry into a Military Service is on or after June 1, 1984, shall be for a period of 8 years from the date of enlistment, appointment, or, when authorized by law, induction.

[Nickdfresh]

I joined in 1981. It was only six years then. Read the very last paragraph if you can actually read you ignorant bastard.
SUBJECT: Fulfilling the Military Service Obligation (MSO)


References: (a) DoD Directive 1304.25, subject as above, March 17, 1986 (hereby canceled)

(b) Title 10, United States Code

(c) DoD Instruction 1200.15, "Assignment to and Transfer Between Reserve Categories, Discharge from Reserve Status, Transfer to the Retired Reserve, and Notification of Eligibility for Retired Pay," September 18, 1997

(d) DoD Directive 1215.13, "Reserve Component Member Participation Policy," December 14, 1995

(e) through (k), see enclosure 1

1. REISSUANCE AND PURPOSE

This Instruction:

1.1. Reissues reference (a) as a DoD Instruction under the authority of reference (b).

1.2. Implements policy, and updates procedures and responsibilities under Sections 10145, 10146, 10204, 12103, and 651 of reference (b) for fulfillment of the statutory MSO.

2. APPLICABILITY

This Instruction applies to the Office of the Secretary of Defense and the Military Departments (including the Coast Guard when it is not operating as a Military Service in the Navy by agreement with the Department of Transportation), the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Unified Commands (hereafter referred to collectively as "the DoD Components"). The term "Military Services," as used herein, refers to the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, the Marine Corps, and the Coast Guard.

3. DEFINITIONS


3.1. Discharge. Complete severance from all military status gained by an enlistment, appointment, or induction.

3.2. Enlistment and Appointment. The voluntary initial entry of a person into any of the Military Services.

3.3. Induction. When authorized by law, the involuntary (or voluntary) assignment of eligible citizens to a Military Service.

3.4. Military Service Obligation (MSO). The total required service that each person who becomes a member of a Military Service shall serve in a Military Service discharged under regulations prescribed by the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of the Military Department concerned.

3.5. Separation. A general term that includes discharge, release from active duty, release from custody and control of the Military Services, transfer to the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR), and similar changes in active or Reserve status.

4. POLICY

It is DoD policy under 10 U.S.C. (reference (b)) that:

4.1. Every person, on initial entry into a Military Service, shall serve a total of 8 years, to be fulfilled, in accordance with this Instruction.

4.2. The MSO for any person whose initial entry into a Military Service is on or after June 1, 1984, shall be for a period of 8 years from the date of enlistment, appointment, or, when authorized by law, induction.

Um, it doesn't say anything about before, idiot.

And besides, you've given three dates of service and who the fuck says they were in the military for the time of their contract? If I'm asked, I say I was in for four active and three reserve. I really don't give a fuck about delayed entry (inactive reserve) one-year prior!

[cadaverdog]

Not that I would ever think you'd admit you were wrong but you were. But that would change the fact that you're mom made a big mistake when she let your dad talk her out of getting an abortion instead of giving birth to a piece of shit like you.

[cadaverdog]

Um, it doesn't say anything about before, idiot.

Obviously it was changed or the wouldn't say on or after June 1, 1984 you ignorant bastard. Read my last post then go fuck yourself.

[Nickdfresh]

Not that I would ever think you'd admit you were wrong but you were. But that would change the fact that you're mom made a big mistake when she let your dad talk her out of getting an abortion instead of giving birth to a piece of shit like you.

That's very hurtful cdog...

But why the fuck would you say "three years", then "four years" and now your "contract" of six years? What kind of fucking idiot are you? Does an officer say I was "in 39 years" if they served four years active? What fucking sense does that make? Drug addict sense?

Most vets I know would think you were lying about your service, or exaggerating it to suck the cock of the VA system?

[Nickdfresh]

Obviously it was changed or the wouldn't say on or after June 1, 1984 you ignorant bastard. Read my last post then go fuck yourself.

Then why not Just fucking post what it was on May 31, 1984? you vagrant shitstool!

[cadaverdog]

Um, it doesn't say anything about before, idiot.

And besides, you've given three dates of service and who the fuck says they were in the military for the time of their contract? If I'm asked, I say I was in for four active and three reserve. I really don't give a fuck about delayed entry (inactive reserve) one-year prior!

It doesn't matter what you think shithead. I was in the Navy for 6 years even though I only did a little under 3 years on active duty. Unless you're lying you were in for 8. I was only on delayed entry for a month. My DD214 says I got out of active duty in Aug 84 but I was still in until I was discharged in 87. I'm pretty sure I was still subject to the rules of the UCMJ during the time I was in the inactive reserve as well.

[cadaverdog]

Then why not Just fucking post what it was on May 31, 1984? you vagrant shitstool!

Because that's all I found looking it up. I had other shit going on here at that time. I have time now and since I know I'm right I'll find it eventually.

[cadaverdog]

Most vets I know would think you were lying about your service, or exaggerating it to suck the cock of the VA system?

You ever dealt with the VA? Doubtful or you'd know you have to prove you're eligible for VA benefits or they won't do jack shit for you. Most vets would know that as well, shit for brains.

[Nickdfresh]

It doesn't matter what you think shithead. I was in the Navy for 6 years even though I only did a little under 3 years on active duty.

Most vets I know would think you're a fucking idiot!

I was in the Army for eight years now! Whooohoooo!

Nobody gives a fuck about your "contract" moron!

Unless you're lying you were in for 8. I was only on delayed entry for a month. My DD214 says I got out of active duty in Aug 84 but I was still in until I was discharged in 87. I'm pretty sure I was still subject to the rules of the UCMJ during the time I was in the inactive reserve as well.

You get "Discharged" the day you are released from active duty, moron. My DD214 says the date of my active duty ETS. I had a second Honorable from the Reserve. I don't even count that one!

According to your logic, then everyone in Selective Service is "serving"!

[Nickdfresh]

You ever dealt with the VA? Doubtful or you'd know you have to prove you're eligible for VA benefits or they won't do jack shit for you. Most vets would know that as well, shit for brains.

Um, LMFAO! Yeah.

You don't have to have an "Honorable Discharge" for VA services, retard!

You're just a lying pile of shit no one wants around...