Ford & Elvis

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by MAX
"PROVE" what?

That post was sarcasm aimed at your's and E's

nevermind.

I still don't see ANY wreckage in ANY of your photos Max.

I'm an idiot. Please point it out for me.

[FORD]

Originally posted by ELVIS
No, a fact is something like this:

It's physically impossible for me to rollerblade around the block with ELVIS because I'm FAT!

No, it would be physically impossible for me to rollerblade because I can't find fucking size 15 skates.

And just like my size 15 foot won't fit in a size 10 shoe, neither will a Boeing 757 fit in a 15 ft wide hole.

[LoungeMachine]

Max,

with ALL due respect, the first photo you attached where you point out "all the smoke"

Why can you not see any wreckage from a fucking 757 that didnt enter the bldg?

Why is there not ONE photo that I can find on the entire web THAT SHOWS WRECKAGE FROM A 757?

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by FORD

And just like my size 15 foot won't fit in a size 10 shoe, neither will a Boeing 757 fit in a 15 ft wide hole.

And certainly not without leaving SOME FLIPPING WRECKAGE

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by ELVIS
No, a fact is something like this:

It's physically impossible for me to rollerblade around the block with ELVIS because I'm FAT!

Way to stay on topic again E

How about this fact

Point to me the WRECKAGE from a 757 in any of these photos

[ELVIS]

Here's more truth:

"Frank Probst, an information management specialist for the Pentagon Renovation Program, left his office trailer near the Pentagon's south parking lot at 9:36 a.m. Sept. 11. Walking north beside Route 27, he suddenly saw a commercial airliner crest the hilltop Navy Annex. American Airlines Flight 77 reached him so fast and flew so low that Probst dropped to the ground, fearing he'd lose his head to its right engine."
- "A Defiant Recovery." The Retired Officer Magazine, January 2002


"USAToday.com Editor Joel Sucherman saw it all: an American Airlines jetliner fly left to right across his field of vision as he commuted to work Tuesday morning. It was highly unusual. The large plane was 20 feet off the ground and a mere 50 to 75 yards from his windshield. Two seconds later and before he could see if the landing gear was down or any of the horror-struck faces inside, the plane slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon 100 yards away. 'My first thought was he's not going to make it across the river to [Reagan] National Airport. But whoever was flying the plane made no attempt to change direction,' Sucherman said. 'It was coming in at a high rate of speed, but not at a steep angle—almost like a heat-seeking missile was locked onto its target and staying dead on course.'"
- "Journalist Witnesses Pentagon Crash." eWeek.com, 13 Sep 2001


"'I mean it was like a cruise missile with wings, went right there and slammed into the Pentagon,' eyewitness Mike Walter said of the plane that hit the military complex. 'Huge explosion, great ball of fire, smoke started billowing out, and then it was just chaos on the highway as people either tried to move around the traffic and go down either forward or backwards,' he said."
- "Witnesses and Leaders on Terrorist Attacks." CNN, 11 Sep 2001


"'(The plane) was flying fast and low and the Pentagon was the obvious target,' said Fred Gaskins, who was driving to his job as a national editor at USA Today near the Pentagon when the plane passed about 150 feet overhead. 'It was flying very smoothly and calmly, without any hint that anything was wrong.'"
- "Bush Vows Retaliation for 'Evil Acts'." USA Today, 11 Sep 2001


"Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation's military. 'There was a big boom,' he said. 'Everybody was in shock. I turned around to the car behind me and yelled "Did you see that?" Nobody could believe it.'"
- "Bush Vows Retaliation for 'Evil Acts'." USA Today, 11 Sep 2001


"'I saw the tail of a large airliner. ... It plowed right into the Pentagon," said an Associated Press Radio reporter who witnessed the crash. 'There is billowing black smoke.'"
- "America's Morning of Terror." ChannelOne.com, 2001


"Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. 'It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane,' Mr Campo said. 'I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001


"Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. 'There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001

[MAX]

LoungeMachine,

Dude there is no disrespect at all on either sides. I would just like you guys to PROVE ANY OF THESE CONSPIRICIES TO ME? It's ludicrous. A very close friend of mine lives in D.C. and saw the wreckage first hand. Also, have either of you guys ever actually been to the Pentagon? Well, I have and it's an enormous bulding. The pictures do not do the damage jusice. Regardless, as Kramer (from Seinfeld) would say, I find all of this bottlerocket attack theory "cookytalk!"

[LoungeMachine]

Nice job E,

Still haven't answered my question

Why is there NO photos of 757 wreckage?

I will believe it when I see it. Until then, there's just too many holes in the "official" story.

It's easier to find pctures of Sasquatch and Nessie than it is to find pics of wreckage

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by MAX
LoungeMachine,

Dude there is no disrespect at all on either sides. I would just like you guys to PROVE ANY OF THESE CONSPIRICIES TO ME? It's ludicrous. A very close friend of mine lives in D.C. and saw the wreckage first hand. Also, have either of you guys ever actually been to the Pentagon? Well, I have and it's an enormous bulding. The pictures do not do the damage jusice. Regardless, as Kramer (from Seinfeld) would say, I find all of this bottlerocket attack theory "cookytalk!"

But nary a tail section shot?

nada?

Not ONE piece?


Some internet Al Gore invented. 8 million shots of Jenna Jameson, and not ONE of another piece of wreckage.


Post a link if you know of any wreckage shots.

This has bugged me for over a year now.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by MAX
LoungeMachine,

Dude there is no disrespect at all on either sides. I would just like you guys to PROVE ANY OF THESE CONSPIRICIES TO ME? It's ludicrous. A very close friend of mine lives in D.C. and saw the wreckage first hand. Also, have either of you guys ever actually been to the Pentagon? Well, I have and it's an enormous bulding. The pictures do not do the damage jusice. Regardless, as Kramer (from Seinfeld) would say, I find all of this bottlerocket attack theory "cookytalk!"

Classic Seinfeld Conspiracy Show of all time was the Keith Hernandez / Magic Spit episode. Flippin riot.

That was ONE magic loogie.


I'm sure Im on enough lists to warrant me staying many miles from the pentagon.

I'm not doubting your friend. I'm asking why I can't find evidence of a 757 wreck.

[MAX]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
But nary a tail section shot?

nada?

Not ONE piece?

The JET was totally engulfed in flames!!!!

Do you question every plane crash photos? Seriously?

Anyway, this pic will hopefully show you the scale of the Pentagon as a building. You can actually see how small that cars are comparred to the buildings structure. I'm sorry but this IS nonsense IMO. Regardless, talking about it is good.

Here you go:

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by MAX
The JET was totally engulfed in flames!!!!

Do you question every plane crash photos? Seriously?

Anyway, this pic will hopefully show you the scale of the Pentagon as a building. You can actually see how small that cars are comparred to the buildings structure. I'm sorry but this IS nonsense IMO. Regardless, talking about it is good.

Here you go:

This from boeing's own website

757-200

wing span 124 ft. 10 in.
length 155 ft. 3in.

and yet NO sign of it anywhere, in any photo.

If I'm so crazy, why can't we find any photos?

[LoungeMachine]

THE DAMN THING WAS 155 FEET LONG!

SOMETHING WOULD BE SEEN IN A PHOTO, ENGULFED OR NOT

[ELVIS]

Photos of the wreckage have been posted on this forum...

[MAX]

Here,

It's probably a "lie" because it's from a retired Major who also served under President Carter?

Anyway, this link is from our families close friend "Da Maj" cos I emailed him about our debate.

I just received this and haven't even looked at it myself. Anyway, he replied that it has a lot of links regarding the attack.

http://perso.club-internet.fr/mouv4x8/11sept01_A65_5_Universty_Hawai_links.html