CBS to release statement at noon

[ELVIS]

I doubt that!


:D

[Mezro]

Originally posted by ELVIS
At least, George Bush siezed an opportunity and made a decision...

I applaud him for that alone...

In your opinion did he make the right choice?

Mezro...when US troops and innocent Iraqi women and children die I'm not so sure you can applaud that...

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

[John Ashcroft]

When a murderous dictator funds terrorists to strike at any and all free nations, kills millions of his own citizens (including women and children), builds rape-rooms, invades neighboring countries, builds chemical and nuclear weapons, and shoots at patrolling Aircraft, I'm absolutely sure we can't applaud that.

[FORD]

Not to get back on topic or anything, but.....

I just checked the CBSNews.com website and I don't see anything there resembling a "statement", other than an article which says (speaking in the third person of themselves) "CBS News continued to defend the legitimacy of its recent story about President Bush's Vietnam-era service in the Texas Air National Guard..."

Did Drudge jump the gun again?

[DrMaddVibe]

Nope...See-BS keeps backing up thier release party.

First it was noon, then 3:30 now it's supposedly 5:00pm!

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by John Ashcroft
You see, OD illustrates exactly why the left is losing election after election after election.

It's always "If they don't agree with me, they must be blind or just plain stupid!!! After all, I'm the smartest person on the planet!"

Let's analyze who's ideology is flawed for a second...

Liberals embrace Socialism. An economic structure that's failed miserably with every single application. In fact, the kinds of things synonymous with Socialism are tyrannical dictators, oppressed people, starvation, and mass-graves. Yet all of these "brilliant" proponents are willing to ignore this fact to advance socialism anyway. All the while calling opponents "stupid" or "blind" rather than arguing the merits (or lack thereof) of Socialism. It's no wonder they're willing to ignore the absence of freedom of speech that all citizens living in Socialist societies share. I guess you "smart" ones would like nothing else than to outlaw opposition speech.

After all, yours is the party of "Political Correctness"...

Now Free Market proponents offer the benefits of such a system when arguing it's merits. Things like comparisons in living standards between, let's say the U.S. and Cuba. Comparisons in health care quality between, let's say the U.S. and Canada. Issues like GDPs and such. Tax rates between Free Market societys and Communist societies. And along with the Free Market mentality comes a healthy dose of "Stay the fuck out of our business" towards government intervention.

Conservatives also have no problem removing murderous dictators from power. Liberals? Well, you all used to be the party of human rights. I guess those days are over.

Wow Ashcroft, I'm so glad you returned. First of all, your smug attitude makes me ill. You know, you do a great job of framing your arguments, a "skill" which you obviously learned from your idols in Washington.

If you are addressing me, you should return with statements I made. I have no love for Socialism, nor does anyone with sense and access to a history book. But it sure is easy for you to argue against it from your perch on the far right. Ever here of moderation? Ever hear about making your own opinion about the world and various topics instead of parroting what you heard on the fucking radio this morning?

Nor am I a liberal about most things. Is it possible for there to be people who believe in fiscal conservatism, a mutli-lateral foreign policy, and the PRESIDENT AND HIS GOONS NOT LYING THROUGH THEIR FUCKING TEETH WITH EVERY STATEMENT THEY MAKE?

It's funny because I can see we agree on most topics, fundamentally. I started posting here after reading a discussion you engaged in regarding raising the minimum wage, something I do not agree with. The thing is that you are too blind or scared (I think for someone like you it's B) to see that your man is not doing what you want him to do, what you think he is doing, what he says he's doing, or even really doing anything at all!

I see you are in the military somehow, and I respect that... but I don't know what kind of real brains you use on the job. In my profession, we collect facts, judge them on their merits, and make a decision. We follow the money. We look for people who benefit from things. We don't believe the first bullshit line that comes down the pipe. And that's why I'm scared to death that this asshole is gonna get elected again and you're too busy debating fucking typewriter acquisitions from the 70s.

All of this would have been much more useful before your party endorsed our doom be nominating this asshole. I'd much rather vote for a decent republican who isn't trying to consolidate power and oil wealth than a Democrat. I just wish I could be a good little party member like ya'll. Seriously. Elvis, you talk about optimism? Good for you. Have fun with it.

BTW, Ford talks about how the polls are using bum demographics. I agree. I still think Kerry will win.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by John Ashcroft
When a murderous dictator funds terrorists to strike at any and all free nations, kills millions of his own citizens (including women and children), builds rape-rooms, invades neighboring countries, builds chemical and nuclear weapons, and shoots at patrolling Aircraft, I'm absolutely sure we can't applaud that.

GOTCHA BITCH!!!!! Your buddies Bush Sr. and Rumsfeld were the ones who enabled him in the first fucking place!!!!!!!! This is what I'm talking about!!! And we were the ones who told him to have a go at Kuwait... just so we could kick him out and station troops in the region.

Maybe to you that's a great strategy, but I think it's lying bullshit. Follow the fucking money instead of just nodding your head to whatever Rush has to say.

Just like how we had to fight terror in Asscrakistan. Then we needed to fight terror in Iraq. Now... Surprise!!!! We have our arch enemy Iran in a pincer grip. And us and Israel have Syria in the same boat. What a happy coincidence. And we have plenty of dumb young men and women to throw into the meat grinder. This'll be perfect!!!! It's just a coincidence though.

FUCKING PLEASE

[Mezro]

Originally posted by John Ashcroft
When a murderous dictator funds terrorists to strike at any and all free nations, kills millions of his own citizens (including women and children), builds rape-rooms, invades neighboring countries, builds chemical and nuclear weapons, and shoots at patrolling Aircraft, I'm absolutely sure we can't applaud that.

There are plenty of dictators around the world that fit a similar profile. So why Iraq?

Mezro...oh yeah...thats right...I almost forgot...

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
What's not to laugh at?

man that is funny...

[John Ashcroft]

Love that pic! Hey, never said all U.S. policies end up being perfect. Remember hindsight is 20/20. Saddam was simply the lesser of two evils at one time (Iran being the bigger). At least one party's willing to correct mistakes, and keep murderous dictators at bay.

Anyway, I think old Teddy Roosevelt covered this sentiment here:

"It is not the critic who counts;

not the man who points out where the strong man stumbled

or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.

The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena,

whose face is marred with dust and sweat and blood.

At best, he knows the triumph of high achievement;

if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly,

so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls

who knew neither victory nor defeat."

And OD, I'll get to ya later, I promise. The post is a little long, and I want to give it my full attention.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by John Ashcroft
Love that pic! Hey, never said all U.S. policies end up being perfect. Remember hindsight is 20/20. Saddam was simply the lesser of two evils at one time (Iran being the bigger). At least one party's willing to correct mistakes, and keep murderous dictators at bay.

Anyway, I think old Teddy Roosevelt covered this sentiment here:

"It is not the critic who counts;

not the man who points out where the strong man stumbled

or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.

The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena,

whose face is marred with dust and sweat and blood.

At best, he knows the triumph of high achievement;

if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly,

so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls

who knew neither victory nor defeat."

And OD, I'll get to ya later, I promise. The post is a little long, and I want to give it my full attention.

Great, I'll be looking forward to it.

And the quote about the person who actually does things compared to people who just bitch... that's fine when you are arguing about a position or task that no one wants to do, but there's plenty of people lined up to do a better job, or to actually do the job, that Goegie has.

[Sgt Schultz]

I'll see your Rumsfeld / Saddam photo and raise you a few.........

[FORD]

Yes, Saddam, I will marry you! Oh you have made me the happiest girl in the whole PLO!!

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by FORD
Yes, Saddam, I will marry you! Oh you have made me the happiest girl in the whole PLO!! [/B]

:D

[Mezro]

Originally posted by John Ashcroft
Love that pic! Hey, never said all U.S. policies end up being perfect.

Agreed.

At least they are our policies and not something shoved down our throats by an occupying force

Mezro...at the end of the day it is still damn good to be American and be able to express ourselves freely...