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Originally posted by ODShowtime
Wow Ashcroft, I'm so glad you returned. First of all, your smug attitude makes me ill. You know, you do a great job of framing your arguments, a "skill" which you obviously learned from your idols in Washington.
If you are addressing me, you should return with statements I made. I have no love for Socialism, nor does anyone with sense and access to a history book. But it sure is easy for you to argue against it from your perch on the far right. Ever here of moderation? Ever hear about making your own opinion about the world and various topics instead of parroting what you heard on the fucking radio this morning?
Nor am I a liberal about most things. Is it possible for there to be people who believe in fiscal conservatism, a mutli-lateral foreign policy, and the PRESIDENT AND HIS GOONS NOT LYING THROUGH THEIR FUCKING TEETH WITH EVERY STATEMENT THEY MAKE?
It's funny because I can see we agree on most topics, fundamentally. I started posting here after reading a discussion you engaged in regarding raising the minimum wage, something I do not agree with. The thing is that you are too blind or scared (I think for someone like you it's B) to see that your man is not doing what you want him to do, what you think he is doing, what he says he's doing, or even really doing anything at all!
I see you are in the military somehow, and I respect that... but I don't know what kind of real brains you use on the job. In my profession, we collect facts, judge them on their merits, and make a decision. We follow the money. We look for people who benefit from things. We don't believe the first bullshit line that comes down the pipe. And that's why I'm scared to death that this asshole is gonna get elected again and you're too busy debating fucking typewriter acquisitions from the 70s.
All of this would have been much more useful before your party endorsed our doom be nominating this asshole. I'd much rather vote for a decent republican who isn't trying to consolidate power and oil wealth than a Democrat. I just wish I could be a good little party member like ya'll. Seriously. Elvis, you talk about optimism? Good for you. Have fun with it.
BTW, Ford talks about how the polls are using bum demographics. I agree. I still think Kerry will win.
Wow Ashcroft, I'm so glad you returned. First of all, your smug attitude makes me ill. You know, you do a great job of framing your arguments, a "skill" which you obviously learned from your idols in Washington.
If you are addressing me, you should return with statements I made. I have no love for Socialism, nor does anyone with sense and access to a history book. But it sure is easy for you to argue against it from your perch on the far right. Ever here of moderation? Ever hear about making your own opinion about the world and various topics instead of parroting what you heard on the fucking radio this morning?
Nor am I a liberal about most things. Is it possible for there to be people who believe in fiscal conservatism, a mutli-lateral foreign policy, and the PRESIDENT AND HIS GOONS NOT LYING THROUGH THEIR FUCKING TEETH WITH EVERY STATEMENT THEY MAKE?
It's funny because I can see we agree on most topics, fundamentally. I started posting here after reading a discussion you engaged in regarding raising the minimum wage, something I do not agree with. The thing is that you are too blind or scared (I think for someone like you it's B) to see that your man is not doing what you want him to do, what you think he is doing, what he says he's doing, or even really doing anything at all!
I see you are in the military somehow, and I respect that... but I don't know what kind of real brains you use on the job. In my profession, we collect facts, judge them on their merits, and make a decision. We follow the money. We look for people who benefit from things. We don't believe the first bullshit line that comes down the pipe. And that's why I'm scared to death that this asshole is gonna get elected again and you're too busy debating fucking typewriter acquisitions from the 70s.
All of this would have been much more useful before your party endorsed our doom be nominating this asshole. I'd much rather vote for a decent republican who isn't trying to consolidate power and oil wealth than a Democrat. I just wish I could be a good little party member like ya'll. Seriously. Elvis, you talk about optimism? Good for you. Have fun with it.
BTW, Ford talks about how the polls are using bum demographics. I agree. I still think Kerry will win.
About that. The liberal ideology most certainly is lock-step with socialism. If you're not a fan of socialism, you're endorsing the wrong party. Period. If you chose to endorse the Democratic party, you're endorsing socialism de-facto. If you state you're no fan of socialism, you need to look long and hard at your party's recent candidate. You need to look long and hard at your party's leader in the House. You need to look long and hard at your party's leader in the Senate (and Daschle too!). In fact, you need to look long and hard at your entire party's national platform, to include the foreign leaders they embrace. Embracing crackpot theories about Republicans and/or President Bush only gives you an excuse to be lazy. Let's face it, it takes alot less intellect and ambition to jump on the conspiracy theory wagon than it takes to research such theories and make an educated opinion. Your entire party is being spoon fed unsubstantiated bullshit from people like Michael Moore. And you embrace it without question! It's amazing really! I mean, not even a precursory fact check. And yet you wonder why the Democrats are being fired en-masse?
Anyway, If you truly are against socialism, you're abandoning your civic duty to your country by embracing and empowering it's proponents. Instead of reading political entertainment columns from liberal-only tabloids about what Bush drank, snorted, or shit in 1973, do some real checking on party ideology and history. And while you're at it, read the Constitution. This is a good place to start
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