Iran to test fire long-range missile

[scorpioboy33]

I think US is gonig to stretch themselves to far and fall like Rome

[FORD]

Ezekiel 38
1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:
11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?
15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:
16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
17 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?
18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.
19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.
21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother.
22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.
23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.

[FORD]

Ezekiel 39
1 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel:
3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.
4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.
5 Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.
6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.
7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.
8 Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this is the day whereof I have spoken.
9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:
10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord GOD.
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.
12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.
13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD.
14 And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search.
15 And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog.
16 And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land.
17 And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood.
18 Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all of them fatlings of Bashan.
19 And ye shall eat fat till ye be full, and drink blood till ye be drunken, of my sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you.
20 Thus ye shall be filled at my table with horses and chariots, with mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the Lord GOD.
21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

[ELVIS]

BTW, I believe Gog was a person, not Russia...

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by FORD
It ain't my word, it's His!

Oh I forgot, you're an authority on Bible translation...

[freak]

Originally posted by ELVIS
Oh I forgot, you're an authority on Bible translation...

It's probably best he's a liberal.

If he were a conservative, with those issues, he'd be hunkered in a compound waiting for Janet Reno to bulldoze the thing over.

That boy, and the center, are not acquainted at all.

[ELVIS]

Or another possibility is Gog is a designation for any enemy of God's people.

[freak]

Originally posted by ELVIS
Or another possibility is Gog is a designation for any enemy of God's people.

Or one of the prophets just mis-typed it.

[FORD]

Originally posted by ELVIS
BTW, I believe Gog was a person, not Russia...

Gog was the chief prince of the city of Meshech. That's a Hebrew word. Translated into Russian, it's MOSCOW

All the names mentioned in the Ezekiel chapters were actually symbolic of a specific branch of Noah's family, the sons of Japeth.

Genesis 10
1 This is the account of Shem, Ham and Japheth, Noah's sons, who themselves had sons after the flood. The Japhethites
2 The sons of Japheth:
Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech and Tiras.
3 The sons of Gomer:
Ashkenaz, Riphath and Togarmah.

Japheth and his descendants migrated to the far north lands after the flood. Call them the first Russians, if you will.....

The names were used symbolically, because Ezekiel knew which people these names would refer to. it doesn't mean that the literal leader of the Russian invasion will be a man named Gog.

Though "Gog" could be an early variant of "George" when you think about it

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by FORD
Gog was the chief prince of the city of Meshech. That's a Hebrew word. Translated into Russian, it's MOSCOW

That is incorrect...

[Nitro Express]

I always found it interesting that Christians take the Book of Revelations at face value; eventhough, it's vague scripture that has to be creatively interpreted. It's full of symbolism that everyone has their interpretation of. Plus nobody has no idea who John the Revelator was or what position of authority he held in the early Christian church.

I'm an agnostic. If believing in the bible gets you through the day then fine but I'm not believing any of it until God himself appears in front of me.

[ELVIS]

..and it will be too late...

[FORD]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
I always found it interesting that Christians take the Book of Revelations at face value; eventhough, it's vague scripture that has to be creatively interpreted. It's full of symbolism that everyone has their interpretation of. Plus nobody has no idea who John the Revelator was or what position of authority he held in the early Christian church.

I'm an agnostic. If believing in the bible gets you through the day then fine but I'm not believing any of it until God himself appears in front of me.

Jesus is here all the time. Ain't that close enough?

[FORD]

Originally posted by ELVIS
That is incorrect...

From Easton's Bible Dictionary....



Meshech -

Drawing out, the sixth son of Japheth (Genesis 10:2), the founder of a tribe (1 Chronicles 1:5; Ezekiel 27:13; 38:2,3). They were in all probability the Moschi, a people inhabiting the Moschian Mountains, between the Black and the Caspian Seas. In Psalms 120:5 the name occurs as simply a synonym for foreigners or barbarians. "During the ascendency of the Babylonians and Persians in Western Asia, the Moschi were subdued; but it seems probable that a large number of them crossed the Caucasus range and spread over the northern steppes, mingling with the Scythians. There they became known as Muscovs, and gave that name to the Russian nation and its ancient capital by which they are still generally known throughout the East"

[ELVIS]

Meshech-Tubal Tensions with Syria


After Turkey has spent 75 years attempting to join the West, and having been spurned by the European Union, they appear to have little choice but to attempt to rejoin the Islamic Middle East. The strategic implications are immense and are destined to dramatically affect the balance of power in the Middle East and in Eastern Europe.

Turkey is currently a NATO member (with an active army of over 500,000 and 950,000 in reserves) and, with 63 million, is the second most populous state in the Middle East.

Tensions with Syria

Kurdish guerrillas (PKK), with ostensible support from Syria, continue to challenge Turkey's control of the Hatay province. Abdullah Ocalan, the PKK leader, has been able to operate from the Bekaa Valley in Syrian-controlled Lebanon.

(Present-day Hatay was the former Syrian province of Alexandretta, which was given to Turkey by France in 1940 as a bribe to insure that Turkey would not join on Germany's side in World War II.)

The tensions between Turkey and Syria continue to intensify over the control of Hatay and over the control of the waters of the Euphrates River. These disputes have, so far, prevented Turkey from joining the Iran-Syrian alliance in their attempt to forge an "Islamic Crescent."

Future Power Struggle

Turkey, too, is entering the contest to "liberate" Jerusalem. An Islamic Turkey seems destined to engage in a three-way power struggle with the Middle East's other two most populous states: Iran, with 64 million, and Egypt, with 62 million.

Presently, Iran is clearly the strongest and growing. Iran is also the lead ally listed in Ezekiel 38, which we believe is on the near horizon. Meshech and Tubal (Turkey) are allies with Iran and Magog (Russia) in this ill-fated invasion.

Egypt, however, while noticeably absent from the Ezekiel account, is the initiator (as King of the South) of the scenario in Daniel 11, which appears to be the Armageddon sequence. We believe this climatic engagement is substantially subsequent to Ezekiel 38 and 39.

Keep and eye on the events presently unfolding in the Middle East and, meanwhile, do your homework: learn what the Bible details about these forthcoming events. Film at eleven.