Premier drums ?

[jackassrock]

I was given a set of Premier Royale drums to keep as a practice set. They are in pretty good shape, and don't sound completely shitty, they just need a little love, and I'm prepared to give 'em the attention they need in order to save the wear and tear on my Yamaha Recording Customs. I've been whoring these beautiful drums out to every drummer I play with, because of the convenience of having a full time kit at the practice space, but that's over.

Anyway, I need a set of T-rods for the kick drum, and can't seem to find them anywhere. They are a lot shorter than any others I've found(about 3 1/2 inches from end to end), and Premier doesn't even sell drums in the US anymore. They are standard thread (I heard they used metric threads in the 70s, so I lucked out on that by about a year), just shorter than any bass drum rod I've ever seen.

Does anyone know someone I can talk to about this ? I'm gonna just use some bolts for now, but I would like to have the right ones so I can tune it by hand instead of with a wrench.

[GAR]

I had a brass 4x14 Premier piccolo, the threads were fucked!

I don't recall the reason why, it was 20+ years ago but what I remember was that they had their own little standard hardware thingy - Whitworth thread.. some shit like that but it wasn't SAE -or- Metric thread.

I think I found my extra lugs at Pro Drum Shop on Vine, in Hollywood that it needed and I gave it to our drumer.

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854 Vine St
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[jackassrock]

Thanks, I'm emailing them today.

[Nitro Express]

I can't tell you how much time I've spent with my thumb up my ass waiting to get band practice going because something has broken on the drum kit. Drums are a pain in the ass. I hate carrying them, I hate waiting for them to be setup and waiting for something to be tightened and fixed.

[Nitro Express]

I had a brass 4x14 Premier piccolo, the threads were fucked!

I don't recall the reason why, it was 20+ years ago but what I remember was that they had their own little standard hardware thingy - Whitworth thread.. some shit like that but it wasn't SAE -or- Metric thread.

I think I found my extra lugs at Pro Drum Shop on Vine, in Hollywood that it needed and I gave it to our drumer.

Pro drum stocks and carries every kind of vintage part you could imagine..
Professional Drum Shop Inc

www.prodrumshop.com

854 Vine St
Los Angeles, CA 90038-3783
(323) 469-6285

I was restoring a car with a French carburator and had a bitch of a time finding a tap with the right metric pitch and twist. But non-SAE or metric? That's some fucked up none sense. Whitworth must have had glorious plans of conquering the planet and forcing everyone to use their standard.

[GAR]

It's especially worse for percussion because of the vibration.. Keith Moon HAD to have used Premier because he could get 'em free.

And that's correct: everything breaks on the Premier shells. Something's always fucking up: a lug shell cracking letting the tension nut pull thru.. thread cross-cutting, and there was another problem I recall with the rims!

You have to buy Premier rims because of some metric bullshit: a 14 inch snare is not exactly a 14 so you can't use standard heads? And then they haven't made those heads in 30 years, so even a free shell isn't free.. because it's slightly under sized or something so the rim kinda floats funky under tension.

FUCK vintage Premier. Having an extra kit around, you'd be better off putting your money into a keeper set of cymbals, and some beater shells that are standard head sizes such as CB Percussion, then Pearl, Tama and Yamaha or Ludwig (in range of low to high as is affordable to you.)

[GAR]

And they're beautiful shells, its a shame. I wouldn't take a free set of Premiers from my own experience and if that company's still around and want to reemerge in the US market they've got to do a full face-change for the company to address the fact they're modern, using standard sizes with standard hardware lugs because this shit gets lost and breaks, then where are you when you can't find a dealer and Ebay has no donor shells for parts?

[jackassrock]

Ugh ! Now I feel like Charlie Brown lying on my back and looking at the sky after just missing that damn football again.

Luckily I do have an extra tom for parts if I need it, and I found some regular tension rods (not the t handled type) that should be the right length. If this turns out to be a giant hassle though I'll ditch those things without a thought.

[GAR]

Just be careful not to over-tighten the shell screws, or the lugs cuz if you strip something you'll get into trouble.

[Diamondjimi]

Wow,GARbage is NOW an expert on drums...

[GAR]

I moved over to guitar after I got a paper route with the Pasadena Star-News age 13 and got a Kay SG copy.

[indeedido]

You're like Edward. If Al's gonna play my drums, I'll play his guitar.

[GAR]

- only I couldn't afford a kit. I got a pair of sticks for Band and started with the rudiments and couldn't quite get it why I had to learn that stupid shit if Ringo wasn't doing it with all them screaming Shea Stadium girls.

Of course now I know the importance of the original Ludwig 26 rudiments or whatever..

And I asked my papers distributor - he wasn't the one for Ed as a kid but he knew the guy who was. Ed grew up at least 3 or 4 miles away and probably flipped papers more than a decade earlier but that's about the only similarity besides doing the "paint your address number on your curb" scam.

[kwame k]

Is this what you're looking for? Premier Bass Drum Tension Rod, single arm w/ball tip

[kwame k]

Try Gibraltar......they make decent replacement parts.....http://www.gibraltarhardware.com/pdf/customparts.pdf