Pro Fuck Ups

[Nitro Express]

Society has degraded to the point where this aspect of rock and roll does not have the impact it once did, but I think the big appeal of rock and roll is you could break all of societys rules, get away with it, and get rich in the process.

[Nitro Express]

I picked up the guitar with dreams of being a rock star (EVH in particular). My dreams were of being on stage, being rich, famous, admired, and bagging any pussy I wanted. I love music and guitar specifically. But I wouldn't say I have a deep love for the actual instrument and what it can attain. When I think of those types I come up with Satriani, Johnson, Vai, McAlpine, Lukather, etc. There are only a handful of those guys that if they walked into a room that had a naked super model and a new guitar in it, their eyes would go straight to the guitar & not even notice the naked woman.

I didn't want to be a wizard on the guitar. Just play well enough to make it sound pretty cool & get pussy.

This post is too honest.

[Nitro Express]

All I know is if heaven is where all your dreams come true, heaven is going to be one heck of an orgy of excess.

[jhale667]

Some Kind of Monster is really what turned me off for both James and Lars....

Talk about a pair of absolutely spoiled, sellout assholes.... It's like they completely forgot where they came from....

On top of that, listen to any Metallica boot, and listen to how basically condescending James talks to the crowd.... It's like he talks down to the crowd....

On the contrary, I've always thought Kirk and Jason (and now Robert I would say) would be really cool guys to just sit down and have a beer with... Just like in VH I think MA would be that way....

Just my .02....

I met Trujillo during the Infectious Grooves days, and he was cool as shit....totally the kind of guy you'd want to hang out with, probably had a great deal to do with (besides being a monster player) why he got the gig.

[Diamondjimi]

R.T. is a badass. Perfect dude for the band...

[Diamondjimi]

Lars has got to be the biggest run-of -the-mouth to ever do an interview. I'd rather watch paint dry than read/watch his babbling shite....

[Seshmeister]

I picked up the guitar with dreams of being a rock star (EVH in particular). My dreams were of being on stage, being rich, famous, admired, and bagging any pussy I wanted. I love music and guitar specifically. But I wouldn't say I have a deep love for the actual instrument and what it can attain. When I think of those types I come up with Satriani, Johnson, Vai, McAlpine, Lukather, etc. There are only a handful of those guys that if they walked into a room that had a naked super model and a new guitar in it, their eyes would go straight to the guitar & not even notice the naked woman.

I didn't want to be a wizard on the guitar. Just play well enough to make it sound pretty cool & get pussy.

I'm afraid to admit I was the same.

So when my band split up and I wasn't single then I basically didn't play for 10 years.

In the last few years I've come back to it expecting all these bands to have technical abilities like Rush. I don't mean playing that kind of music because that would be self defeating but in things like the Monster film or watching clips of Ozzy's latest band you think these people have actually gone backwards.

[Nitro Express]

Lars has got to be the biggest run-of -the-mouth to ever do an interview. I'd rather watch paint dry than read/watch his babbling shite....

His money will run out some time and then he will resurface with his big mouth trying to make more money when nobody cares any more. What else can Lars do but drum for Metallica? He can't even do that now. The thrill is gone Lars.

[Seshmeister]

Unless they impose a prick tax then I don't see him spending his $175 million any time soon.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/lars-ulrich-net-worth/

[Nitro Express]

Yeah but how is that $175 million invested? I hope he invested with Madoff.

[sadaist]

Been thinking about this thread all day. Isn't there a point where no matter how much you play, practice, or are taught where you stop improving? You have reached your personal maximum skill level? I mean, not everyone will be a virtuoso, no matter how much they try. Not everyone will be Joe Montana no matter how many footballs they throw. Not everyone can be Michael Jordan no matter how much time on the court they have.

I waterski and have been for 21+ years. For many years we were at it 4 days a week. I reached a point where I wasn't getting any better. I still had loads of fun and was quite good....but I could not improve no matter how hard I kept trying. I bought newer skis, ropes, gloves, even skied behind different boats. I wasn't going to be able to turn any sharper, get closer to the water horizontally or improve my slalom times.

Just thinking some of these guys have reached their max level of proficiency.

[ThrillsNSpills]

Been thinking about this thread all day. Isn't there a point where no matter how much you play, practice, or are taught where you stop improving? You have reached your personal maximum skill level? I mean, not everyone will be a virtuoso, no matter how much they try. Not everyone will be Joe Montana no matter how many footballs they throw. Not everyone can be Michael Jordan no matter how much time on the court they have.

I waterski and have been for 21+ years. For many years we were at it 4 days a week. I reached a point where I wasn't getting any better. I still had loads of fun and was quite good....but I could not improve no matter how hard I kept trying. I bought newer skis, ropes, gloves, even skied behind different boats. I wasn't going to be able to turn any sharper, get closer to the water horizontally or improve my slalom times.

Just thinking some of these guys have reached their max level of proficiency.

There's so many areas to grow if that's your choice. There's rhythm playing, soloing, writing, etc. and there's tons of ways to improve playing if it's a stringed instrument especially. You can use a pick, use a pick and fingers, tap with 1 hand or two. The biggest challenge is losing your passion for it if you already have momentum developed. If you just pick it up and think you're helping your chops by playing the same patterns then you're growth is shot unless you decide to try new notes and directions. Not that playing patterns isn't good for your picking but you're more in a position of maintenance.

[jhale667]

There's so many areas to grow if that's your choice. There's rhythm playing, soloing, writing, etc. and there's tons of ways to improve playing if it's a stringed instrument especially. You can use a pick, use a pick and fingers, tap with 1 hand or two. The biggest challenge is losing your passion for it if you already have momentum developed. If you just pick it up and think you're helping your chops by playing the same patterns then you're growth is shot unless you decide to try new notes and directions. Not that playing patterns isn't good for your picking but you're more in a position of maintenance.

Excellent post. I'd totally agree, there's no reason to stop striving to be better. Look at someone like Jeff Beck...in his 60s and tell me THAT guy isn't still improving!! Once you get past a certain technical point, sure - you're not going to become more of a gymnast so to speak, but you should always be trying to improve your phrasing, sense of melody, etc. It's all about maintaining your passion and desire at that point, as Thrills so eloquently put it.

[Nitro Express]

Excellent post. I'd totally agree, there's no reason to stop striving to be better. Look at someone like Jeff Beck...in his 60s and tell me THAT guy isn't still improving!! Once you get past a certain technical point, sure - you're not going to become more of a gymnast so to speak, but you should always be trying to improve your phrasing, sense of melody, etc. It's all about maintaining your passion and desire at that point, as Thrills so eloquently put it.

The people who do get better have a passion for it. That's the difference in anything. You find something you like to do, you do it well, and if enough people like it, you can make a living at it. Some people are motivated by the living part of it and do enough to get by and then there are the ones who love what they do and would do it if they even didn't get paid to do it. Those are the people who are going to stand out and unless mental problems, physical disabilities, or drug addiction gets in the way, they typically do get better. Most people don't know what they want and are mostly money motivated so they don't have that natural drive for what they do. They do the bare minimum to get a paycheck and typically hate what they do.

[Nitro Express]

There's so many areas to grow if that's your choice. There's rhythm playing, soloing, writing, etc. and there's tons of ways to improve playing if it's a stringed instrument especially. You can use a pick, use a pick and fingers, tap with 1 hand or two. The biggest challenge is losing your passion for it if you already have momentum developed. If you just pick it up and think you're helping your chops by playing the same patterns then you're growth is shot unless you decide to try new notes and directions. Not that playing patterns isn't good for your picking but you're more in a position of maintenance.

I think a big challenge and you see this with Metallica is once they make a lot of money, they have other interests because the money opened those options up. Going on tour and making music might have been great when they had nothing and were hungry and had less options but now money has opened up a whole new world. The next thing you know you are wearing Armani with the trophy wife going to fashion shows and playing polo.