Kramer Frankie #28 for sale?

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  • Zing!
    Veteran
    • Oct 2011
    • 2363

    #16
    You would think Rudy would have mentioned this, but was this the guitar Ed used in the HFT vid?

    I don't ever recall seeing the #28 before. Have to thumb through the Zloz books and see if it's there.
    My karma just ran over your dogma.

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    • ELVIS
      Banned
      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #17
      Originally posted by Zing!
      You would think Rudy would have mentioned this, but was this the guitar Ed used in the HFT vid?
      No, not at all...

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      • Zing!
        Veteran
        • Oct 2011
        • 2363

        #18
        Is there a definite timeline for when Ed began using/endorsing Kramer? I thought that was after the Diver Down tour but before the recording of 1984. The wiki article on it is kind of vague.

        A chance encounter between Dennis Berardi and Eddie Van Halen's managers on an airplane flight set the foundation for Kramer's meteoric rise in the 1980s. Eddie was interested in a tremolo that stayed in tune, which the Rockinger system offered. A meeting between Eddie Van Halen and Kramer execs took place, and Eddie was sold. At the meeting, he reportedly quipped that he would help make Kramer the "#1 guitar company in the world."

        By 1983 the Rockinger tremolo (sometimes dubbed "The Eddie Van Halen tremolo") had been widely replaced by the Floyd Rose system. In addition, Kramer once again offered Schaller tuners on their guitars, tapping Schaller to produce Floyd Rose tremolos as well. Kramer was the only guitar company offering Original Floyd Rose tremolos stock on their production guitars, a competitive advantage of Kramer over other guitar manufacturers of the period.

        In late 1983 Kramer switched from the "beak" headstock design to the Gibson Explorer-like "banana" headstock design. This distinctive look also helped rank Kramer highly with guitar enthusiasts. One notable Kramer guitar was the Baretta model, which was a single-humbucker instrument similar to guitars Eddie Van Halen used on stage. The Kramer Baretta was the flagship of the Kramer line and helped popularize the single-pickup 1980s guitar design.

        By late 1985 Kramer began installing Seymour Duncan pickups in its guitars, in favor over the more vintage-sounding Schaller pickups. When the sales figures came in, Kramer was the best-selling guitar brand of 1985.
        My karma just ran over your dogma.

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #19
          Ed began working with Kramer in 1982 when the Floyd was pretty much unique to Kramer...

          The endorsements began in 1983...

          The guitar in question does seem to be a period correct Kramer with a correct early Floyd...


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          • VAiN
            Use my hand, I won't look
            ROCKSTAR

            • Nov 2006
            • 5056

            #20
            If this is real, and I'm of the opinion that it is, holy shit what a cool piece! This was used to record 1984?! Incredible!! I'd play the shit out of that thing!!
            Originally posted by wiseguy
            That shit will welcome you in the morning and pour the milk in your count chocula for ya.

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            • Zing!
              Veteran
              • Oct 2011
              • 2363

              #21
              I thought I might have a pic of the guitar in question taken at a Hard Rock about 15 years ago, but it's not the same. Still a cool pic though - even if it IS from the dark years ('86 according the sign).

              First time my dumb ass has figured out how to upload a pic by the way.
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              My karma just ran over your dogma.

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              • sadaist
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Jul 2004
                • 11625

                #22
                Originally posted by Zing!
                I thought I might have a pic of the guitar in question taken at a Hard Rock about 15 years ago, but it's not the same. Still a cool pic though - even if it IS from the dark years ('86 according the sign).

                First time my dumb ass has figured out how to upload a pic by the way.


                The Hard Rock RESTAURANT in Vegas (across parking lot from the casino) has/had a DLR guitar. All sparkly & such. Was very cool. I took a pic of it but no idea where it is.
                “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                • Mushroom
                  Commando
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 1205

                  #23
                  Is it an Ed Roman replica?

                  http://http://www.edroman.com/guitars/kramer.htm

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #24
                    Originally posted by VAiN
                    If this is real, and I'm of the opinion that it is, holy shit what a cool piece! This was used to record 1984?! Incredible!! I'd play the shit out of that thing!!
                    It may have belonged to Ed, but if this was a guitar he actually used there would be a photo of it somewhere...

                    Ed used his Frankenstrat to record 1984 along with a Gibson Flying V on Hot for Teacher and that other guitar (I forget which one) for I'll Wait...

                    I have never heard of a Kramer being used for recording, and I (as have others) have followed this my whole life...

                    For now, I'm calling fake!


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                    • SNIPER
                      Crazy Ass Mofo
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 2625

                      #25
                      Originally posted by ELVIS
                      It may have belonged to Ed, but if this was a guitar he actually used there would be a photo of it somewhere...

                      Ed used his Frankenstrat to record 1984 along with a Gibson Flying V on Hot for Teacher and that other guitar (I forget which one) for I'll Wait...

                      I have never heard of a Kramer being used for recording, and I (as have others) have followed this my whole life...

                      For now, I'm calling fake!


                      Eddie used the 5150 Kramer for Judgment Day. That's the only time I know of

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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        #26
                        I meant on Van Halen...

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                        • SNIPER
                          Crazy Ass Mofo
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 2625

                          #27
                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          I meant on Van Halen...
                          I know bro. My bad.

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                          • SNIPER
                            Crazy Ass Mofo
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 2625

                            #28
                            I have a picture that has all the Franks and this one is Not pictured.

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32942

                              #29
                              Originally posted by jhale667
                              Yep, I remember that ad too...I was still in high school and drooling over Kramers...that ad came out before I got my Voyager, I remember seeing it hanging in the only Kramer dealer in town's shop...


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                              The dumbest move I ever made was trading a beautiful Gibson Les Paul Custom for a Krammer. That Les Paul was a chunk but man did it sound great.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                              • ashstralia
                                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 6566

                                #30
                                that could be a whole other thread mate.

                                i reckon we've all let some beauties slip away...

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