Dave is never coming back!

[dave_is_vh]

Originally posted by Matt White
Maybe, maybe not. He'll keep in rockin', and the Sisters will keep on SUCKIN' DOG BALLS!!!

I couldn't have said it better myself.

[BrownSound1]

Personally I think Dave was at his best with Van Halen. I love most of Dave's solo stuff, but not all of it, and none of it was on par with what he did with Van Halen...PERIOD. Eat 'em and Smile is an incredible album, but it ain't no Classic Van Halen record. I guess I'll always hold a little hope for a reunion...if for nothing else, just to see those four guys acknowledge that they were one of the greatest bands of all time. However, I think we have more of a chance of seeing a full on Led Zeppelin reunion....John Bonham and all.

[knuckleboner]

it was pretty clear after van hagar broke up and hearing ed bitching about sam and sam bitching about ed, that the 2 would never work together again. they did.

it was pretty clear after hearing sam bitch about dave and dave bitch about sam that the 2 would never tour together. they did.

it was pretty clear after hearing ed and al bitch about dave and dave bitch about them in 1996 that they would never work together again. they did, albeit briefly and in private.


if there's anything certain in the van halen universe, it's that nothing's certain.

is it likely that dave rejoins van halen? nope. definitely not. but with van halen, you really can never say never.

[Panamark]

I was pissed when I heard Sammy was back, and not Dave.
Then I heard Ed's playing from this tour.

I wouldnt want to see Dave back in at this stage.
If Ed can get back to his former greatness, then yeah..

Im not even sure that the sisters have enough substance
at the moment, even for a Van Hagar album.....

Dave is best to steer clear. At least while EVH is in his
current condition.

[Cathedral]

None of them will EVER reach the peaks they rode early on, for that reason alone I would like to see the "Classic" legacy left as it is.

Even if Dave did return, he wouldn't have the pull with the material that he once had. therefore, all we would get is Van Hagar music with a Roth vocal.
I don't know about you, but that thought scares the shit out of me and BOV 1 prooved my point.
Those two songs with Dave were good, hell, better than anything Hagar did with them, but it is not just about Ed's ability anymore, it is about how his style has changed since 1984.

The funny thing about evolution is that it can resemble a turd flushing down the toilet. will it go as one piece, or break up and stain the bowl for the next depositor?

You be the judge, meanwhile i'll start my new book titled "When Fans Retire"...

[lms2]

I tend to read way too much into most things... but hey, I got a lot of time on my hands.

Now we have discussed in many prior threads "What is up with Ed?" and there are many people who say that is not a joke... he is that bad... and that it is all because of alcoholism. This could be.

There are a few people like myself who don't believe for one minute that you can "forget" how to play guitar... nor do I seriously believe he would be allowed to do alot of the other stuff he has done if not to serve a higher purpose...

But WHAT????

Okay, think about this. There is money to be made off a reunion tour... but in the case of Van Halen... two whole complete different eras. No matter who they reunited with... one set of fans was gonna be pissed; and a second reunion tour would have little or no meaning. UNLESS, the second reunion tour completely blew people out of the water.

Now how the hell is a group of middle aged rock stars gonna do that? Sure there are a bunch of middle aged fans... but we're talking big time... (does Dave do it any other way?)

One thing is for sure... fans from both eras are talking about the state Ed is in. Dave era fans are going nuts wondering what the hell the guy is up to now... and when are we ever gonna hear from him again.

So, if Ed comes back with Dave... completely reformed and kickin ass like they did in the old days... it will be big with both sets of fans...

It could happen. Full circle. Mega Stardom with Dave... mediocrity with Sam... failure with Cherone... mediocrity with Sam... Full blow out with Dave.

[EbDawson]

I'd settle for a new DVD of a classic VH concert and Dave staying with his current band. Granted the new DVD may be alot to ask for.

[Carmine]

Originally posted by Cathedral

Even if Dave did return, all we would get is Van Hagar music with a Roth vocal.
I don't know about you, but that thought scares the shit out of me and BOV 1 prooved my point.
Those two songs with Dave were good, hell, better than anything Hagar did with them, but it is not just about Ed's ability anymore, it is about how his style has changed since 1984.

I gotta disagree here Cat....MWM and CGTSNM could have been on any of the classic 6 pack and fit perfectly! Ed plays and writes MUCH better for Dave, obviously! 1 new full album with Dave, IMO, and those 2 songs prove it, they can pick up write where they left off.

[lms2]

Good point Carmine. Compare Jamies Cryin with Panama! WTF?

There is magic between Dave and Ed. We don't want everything they do to sound the same. Even if Ed and Dave are both on a different level than they were in 1978... who cares? They were on a different level in 1984 as they were in 1978 as well... The point of Classic Van Halen is when you heard them for the first time... you were like Whoa Nellie... Who the fuck was that?! Then along came all these bands that wanted to sound like someone else... you hear a new group, but you don't realize its a new group... whats the point?

But giving all due respect to Dave's current band... I would be perfectly happy hearing some original material from them as well.

Dave went through a number of musicians after leaving Van Halen. That does something to a persons trust. It affects the working relationship as it does any relationship.

[Carmine]

Originally posted by lms2
Good point Carmine. Compare Jamies Cryin with Panama! WTF?

There is magic between Dave and Ed. We don't want everything they do to sound the same. Even if Ed and Dave are both on a different level than they were in 1978... who cares? They were on a different level in 1984 as they were in 1978 as well... The point of Classic Van Halen is when you heard them for the first time... you were like Whoa Nellie... Who the fuck was that?! Then along came all these bands that wanted to sound like someone else... you hear a new group, but you don't realize its a new group... whats the point?

But giving all due respect to Dave's current band... I would be perfectly happy hearing some original material from them as well.

Dave went through a number of musicians after leaving Van Halen. That does something to a persons trust. It affects the working relationship as it does any relationship.

and the last part of your post is a good point as well. Dave,Ray and Brian friggin rock! Either way Dave goes is Ok with me. New DLRBand cd and tour or Classic VH going out in a blaze of glory....(ok, I want that a little more!)

[Bob_R]

Originally posted by Brett
If he puts out something like Diamond Dave out, then no it won't be killer.

Agreed.

[fanofdave]

Dave's band is solid; VH isn't.
Dave doesn't need VH anymore; they need him.

I wanted Dave to return to VH but its obvious that's
not going to happen. Dave's band is smoking hot,
they give the fans what they want to hear, so why
end that?

Hopefully Dave and his crew will release a new album
and show the doubters that he's still at the top of his
game.

"winners, they come and go....
legends, they're forever......."

[DaveIsKing]

IF it is going to happen, it had better happen soon. Before they are all on Medicaid.

[hard rock]

Safe to say that Van Halen gives Sammy Hagar credability but David Lee Roth gives Van Halen credability. Those 2 tunes of bov1 could have been on any chv album. Cant get this stuff no more sounds like it could have been on diver down it sounds a lot like secrets. Me wise magic maybe on 1984 as there is a bit of a house of pain element to it.

Take Van Hagar tunes like good enough or sucker in a 3 piece, human beings and maybe even pouncake. just the music ok then add roths vocals with different lyrics or maybe even the same but presented in a different style then you see what we could have been graced with.

[azcrdnal]

Originally posted by DLR_EngineRoom
I agree...he ain't comin' back...but why sad but true???

Here's a little honest, eye-opener for all my online comrades here:

As long as we WANNA see DLR join the remaining VH members, we're admitting that as great as Dave is now, he can't be at his best without Van Halen. And that to me, is insulting to Dave. I know I can be quoted as saying that I was abso-smurfly sure that Dave would be back, but I stand corrected, and I DO NOT WANT HIM TO RETURN. PERI-FRICKIN-ID. I saw Roth FRONT ROW LIVE with twonabomber and moose a month ago....and I'm telling you....in no uncertain terms.....HE DON'T NEED VH, AT ALL. THEY WILL ONLY BRING HIM DOWN. PERIOD. PERI-FRICKIN-ID.

well the sad thing is dave has not been at his best since vanhalen. they need him and he needs them anybody can see that.