Question regarding VHIII song

[zeronumber]

Eddie was sober and filled with confidence, because in the first time in his musical career, he wasn't just the guitar player, making music for others, or adding guitar parts for others, he actually wrote all of the music by himself, and co wrote some of the lyrics, it was the first time in vh history that ed had the majority of creative control of the band instead of having to put up with dave or sam's direction. That was mostly due to the fact that Gary was willing to allow eddie have that sort of control without an agrument, where as sam and dave had major control over melodies, lyrics, and which direction the band should or shouldn't go.

It must of been a dream come true to eddie.
Anybody who was ever in a band, and had to play along to music that was already structured, and you had little to no input towards anything, knows how great it feels to do what you want to do, and others co-operating.

The best Eddie ever got out of vh were mike and Al, who were always co-operating with what he gave them....where as with cherone, he had a full line up.

[VonHalen]

it was ok

[RuzDNailz]

On the back of the album, it had a message from Eddie. It read 'this album is for the fans'. Or something to that effect. Hey, if you guys wanted to do something for us? You know what you coulda done!

The whole Best Of Both Worlds album is a biased album towards Spamuel because of those live 3 tracks. I heard 'Panama' and discovered that it was done sloppy. I"m not spending a fucking cent towards that album.

[fatmanwalking]

Actually to take Eddie's control even further, I don't believe Mike played any bass on there. People will disagree but there are some chops present on that CD unlike any other VH album.

Spam even said it after when he was doing crap with the bass player a couple of years ago.

I think that the song Ballor or the Bullet was probably written for Dave. Sounds very CVH.

[DLR7884]

Originally posted by fatmanwalking

I think that the song Ballot or the Bullet was probably written for Dave. Sounds very CVH.

I think you are right. I think it was called "Blood From A Stone."

DLR7884
No, that was "That's Why I Love You," damnit.

[TOM_5150]

Ed was at the top of his game in the late 90's. If VH would of recorded a full album with Roth (Glen Ballard) producing, it would of totally kicked ass and propelled VH back to the top easily.

[ben halen]

When I heard "Without You ", I was kinda psyched cause it was a definite departure from Van Hagar. Vocals were tough to take, but not in the same way Hagar's are- you know what I mean. Kinda funky song with some unexpected changes- unlike the totally predictable lyrics and tempo of Van Hagar.
Unfortunately, I could only listen to the album a couple of times before filing it. It's horrible.
I think this album was Eddie's baby, and the negative fallout made him insecure and unconfident to the point of being afraid to tarnish his legacy by taking anymore chances. Between that and his health and personal problems, its not surprising to see him like he is now.

[ritetoolforjob]

what could old yeller do with any vh music today but ruin it? the dlr band album had great music on it only to to be soiled by talk singing and shitty screams. anyone who thinks that dave added anything positive to that music other than cool lyrics has to be tone deaf. i guess i'm past the point where i shell out hard earned money for shit. some of you here would buy a release of dave farts and find some merit in it!

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by ritetoolforjob
what could old yeller do with any vh music today but ruin it? the dlr band album had great music on it only to to be soiled by talk singing and shitty screams. anyone who thinks that dave added anything positive to that music other than cool lyrics has to be tone deaf. i guess i'm past the point where i shell out hard earned money for shit. some of you here would buy a release of dave farts and find some merit in it!

Old yeller? WTF are you talking about?

DAVE added a hell of a lot to CVH like harmonies and a cool, distinctive vocal style that wasn't a Robert PLANT rip-off. Perhaps you don't like his singing style, fine. But then again, why the fuck are you here SHEEP?

[RuzDNailz]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Old yeller? WTF are you talking about?

DAVE added a hell of a lot to CVH like harmonies and a cool, distinctive vocal style that wasn't a Robert PLANT rip-off. Perhaps you don't like his singing style, fine. But then again, why the fuck are you here SHEEP?

Between you and me nick, I guess some are attention starved.

[fryingdutchman]

Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
he looks good on the australia videos, right...it's shocking what happened in such a few years to this man...

Indeed. When I first saw those videos....I was amazed at Eddie in his contempo-casual wear.

Looks like the band tried to reinvigorate some style after being led around for a decade by Hagar the horrible and the "tequila-swilling beach bum" look.

I fear that we saw Eddie's last gasp on that tour. I don't know if he can ever recover the form he was in on that tour.

[fryingdutchman]

Originally posted by twonabomber
nah. i've heard that song, and it was just a Can't Stop Lovin' You rehash.

they left it off III for good reason...it sucked harder than what they already included on III.

I, too, have heard that song and twonabomber hits it right on the nose.

It sucked...and it was a solid decision to cut it.

Now if they could have only had the same decision-making clarity with "How Many Say I"....then the album may have been salvageable.

I believe that Eddie and Val were reaching the end of the line right around that time, and it seems that EVH was using the music as marriage counseling.

Bad move.

[audiospectrum]

Originally posted by ritetoolforjob
what could old yeller do with any vh music today but ruin it? the dlr band album had great music on it only to to be soiled by talk singing and shitty screams. anyone who thinks that dave added anything positive to that music other than cool lyrics has to be tone deaf. i guess i'm past the point where i shell out hard earned money for shit. some of you here would buy a release of dave farts and find some merit in it!

Just have a little read over the lyrics from VHIII and scope the meaning of the songs, and then the album as a package. Ok now try the same with DLR Band and tell me what you got, ok? Then do it with the music in mind and write down your true feelings. Tell me what meanings and life attitudes you draw from the music into your ears and into your mind. I think your head is below the surface. Let me guess, you're a technical fan right?

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by ritetoolforjob
what could old yeller do with any vh music today but ruin it? the dlr band album had great music on it only to to be soiled by talk singing and shitty screams. anyone who thinks that dave added anything positive to that music other than cool lyrics has to be tone deaf. i guess i'm past the point where i shell out hard earned money for shit. some of you here would buy a release of dave farts and find some merit in it!

what's wrong with you, dude? too much "wham, bam, amsterdam?"

[Terry]

Originally posted by TOM_5150
Ed was at the top of his game in the late 90's. If VH would of recorded a full album with Roth (Glen Ballard) producing, it would of totally kicked ass and propelled VH back to the top easily.

Gotta take exception to that.

Glen Ballard is a puss.

If VH records an album with Roth, they should steer clear of the Ballard/Bob Rock/Mutt Lange school of bringing in outside writers and overproducing the shit out of it. Too much calculation kills the spontaneous atmosphere that always served CVH best.