Which Album Was A Better Followup To '1984'?

[DLR_EngineRoom]

hmmm....I really liked 'Jump' & 'I'll Wait'. Dave had a way of making keyboards and drums sound smooth and natural, not fake and processed like Sammy.

[squib]

I'll Wait doesn't hold up, Jump is fine, but the album is heavier then it seems do to how popular Jump was. I see Dave continuing in one direction and the new band in the other

[light 'em up!]

Which Album Was A Better Followup To '1984'?

Personally I was disappointed in both, because the chemistry between Ed and Dave was missing in both.

I never dug Steve Vai. His sound annoys me to no end and so does Billy Sheehan's bass playing.

[doctor roth]

Originally posted by DLR_EngineRoom
no joke - I'm looking to sell my Van Hagar collection on eBay....

4 tapes 2 albums and 2 tshirts......starting bid $20


My shame for purchasing those in the first place will be auctioned off too, opening bid $.01

All i can say is god bless the internet. I can download a van hagar album, give an informed opinion without wasting my money and then delete it.

No money for you sammy you board shot wearing clown.

[doctor roth]

A classic example of what im talkn bout

[Wayne L.]

Eat'Em & Smile was a kick ass followup to 1984 after his Van Halen days but it was Dave's only solo masterpiece.

[DLR_EngineRoom]

Originally posted by Wayne L.
Eat'Em & Smile was a kick ass followup to 1984 after his Van Halen days but it was Dave's only solo masterpiece.

lol....that's a matter of opinion...I disagree but I can respect your opinion.

[Golden AWe]

the DLR Band.

[Thorman]

Originally posted by DLR_EngineRoom
All Van Hagar sucked compared to Classic Van Halen.


Period.

Stamped it.

Blocked it.

No erasees.

Golden Key.

But not really ..You see CVH can be measured in different ways...to me, 5150 is CVH so i think your right when you say that CVH beats all other VH but in reality there is no other VH then the CVH in which "Dreams" are made of

BAM

[DLR_EngineRoom]

Originally posted by Thorman
I used to think that Sammy Hagar was straight, but not really ..You see Sammy and I had an affair backstage on this last tour. CVH can be measured in different ways...but they're all superior to Van Hagar. To me, 5150 is the biggest pile of steamy horse-$#!+ in history, much like anything Sammy Hagar touches, so i think your right when you say that CVH beats all other garbage from Mr. Spam Man....but in reality there is no other VH than the CVH in which Diamond Dave will pop a cap in Sammy's fatass, Mean Street style...

BAM

wow.....I totally agree with you! Nice post, btw!

[audiospectrum]

Originally posted by Terry
EEAS gets the nod just on production qualities alone.

5150 SOUNDED terrible when it came out, and hasn't improved with age, either. What the fuck happened to Ed's tone? Those Simmons drums just deadened the whole bottom end. For me, 1984 had some of AVH's best recorded work, sound-wise, to date. The clarity of that effort had been replaced by this mid-tone slush.

Really no comparison in terms of song content, either. Far as musicianship and lyrics are concerned, EEAS had plenty of stuff that was up my alley. 5150 just didn't. Can't really think of anything on that album that would have been improved with Roth's participation, or Ted's input. The slickest production values aren't gonna mask or cover up poor songwriting. It doesn't even sound like Ed was making an effort on most of the album. It was at this point that Ed began to become a self-parody. None of the solos made me want to try and figure them out, because I'd already heard it all done before, and better. About the only tune that perked up my ears was the title track, which was a decent piece of music.

As for Hagar, the man is strictly pedestrian. There really is nothing unique about him lyrically, other than being exceptionally average. Just one bland greeting card sentiment after another, alongside lame, humorless sexual double-entendres that make Spinal Tap look positively Shakespearean in comparison. And after several months of reading interviews where EVH asserted that Sammy was a more capable singer than Roth, well, I just didn't hear it. Hagar sings in a higher natural range than Roth. That's about it.

All things considered, it was probably a good thing CVH split when they did. Things were getting a little too top-40 by the time 1984 came around. The music was getting soft.

Looking back into the vault, I read this from Terry. This guy is switched on, his finger is on the pulse, pulse, pulse... I'm giving this post the mother of all bumps because I think it is oh so truthful, and sums up Van Halen's demise after Dave perfectly. 5 stars Terry, having guys like you around on this site makes it all worthwhile!