to the army regulars..why isn't DLR ...

[General Hina]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
http://www.empyrelounge.com/concert/...milton_vh.html

Thanks for the link to that review. Here's a quote from it:

"My personal vote goes to the Red Rocker, Sammy Hagar in what was a surprisingly close match. This show just fuckin' rocked. I heard a fan put it best as we were walking out. David Lee
Roth was entertaining as hell but Sammy flat out rocked."

Over and Out,
General Hina

[Big Troubles]

and your point is? (besides the top of your head)

what you think that I posted that link because I knew there was nothing but praise for Dave and bashing for Sam? God no. I posted that link to show people that theres a mix reaction to the sam and dave tour. some pro roth, very few pro sam. i still dont know what your point is? In fact, Im insistent that your still just 12 years old, widdling with your un-circumcised penis, waiting for your balls to drop. One hand in a bag of Doritos, the other trying in vein to re-inact how your Daddy gave you your first wet dream. Ooooooh....hictcha below the belt eh? Well, take solace in the fact that it wont hurt little guy.
Dont fuck with BT. BT does the fucking.

[General Hina]

Originally posted by king daddy
Dave has never had the best voice in the world, I will give you that. But the charisma that he carries on stage along with the rest of the band is matched by no one else. He is the best front man to ever take the stage.

Where was this so called charisma is los Angeles during the Sam and dave tour?? Roth didn't even talk to the crowd. He said not one word!! I guess jaccking off a bottle of jack daniels on the front row is your idea of charisma. DLR treated the hometown fans poorly. He looked like a petrified old man or a deer caught in the headlights. i've seen the man's charisma on the Fair Warning tour, 1984 tour and the EAS tour. But on this past outing it was loooooong gone. Again, Dave uttered not one word to the crowd. He was a boring cover band.

Over and Out,
General Hina

[Big Troubles]

your opinion. and in this Army your opinion means shit. not even shit. it actualy means less than shit. If thats possible. why is it that when you review a concert by Dave, you talk about all the bad things, AS YOU SEE IT, and none of the good things that THE REST OF THE CROWD SEEN. Why is that I wonder?

So are you telling me, that because Dave didn't talk to the crowd in LA, that he has NO charisma? And what is the meaning of cover band to you? See if Dave =VH. Than what band is he covering? If anything VH has been covering up for the loss of Dave since 1984.
You say you seen him on the 81 FW tour, the 1984 tour and the EEAS tour, but yet you're not a fan of Dave's? Hmm...You got some issues man.

Over and Out? 10 4 good buddy! fucking loser.

[General Hina]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
and your point is? (besides the top of your head)

what you think that I posted that link because I knew there was nothing but praise for Dave and bashing for Sam? God no. I posted that link to show people that theres a mix reaction to the sam and dave tour. some pro roth, very few pro sam. i still dont know what your point is?

Here's a review. i will post one of these a day until you get the point.

MAY 30
VH1 ONLINE
May 30, 2002

David Lee Roth Shakes It In Spandex, Sammy Hagar Bashes Eddie At Tour Debut

Former Van Halen frontmen go heavy on shtick, VH tunes at first date of
joint tour.


By Christina Fuoco

CUYAHOGA FALLS, Ohio - The pervading feeling between dueling former Van
Halen frontmen David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar may never be love, but fans
showed a lot of it Wednesday at Blossom Music Center.

Vintage Van Halen T-shirts peppered the fiery crowd. Fortysomething women
fashioned the Van Halen symbol with their hands as they shook their
shoulders to songs such as "5150" and "Panama." A group of teenage boys
wrote with marker "f--- Eddie" on their arms, referring, of course, to VH
guitarist Eddie Van Halen.

The admiration was mutual between the crowd and Roth and Hagar. Mop-haired
Hagar opened the show at 7:15 p.m. - the singers are alternating set order
during the tour - with a video retrospective that included interviews, clips
of magazine stories and Van Halen photos. It hit a snag midway through, and
kicked back to the beginning of the film. When it finished, a curtain was
drawn to allow a select number of fans to stand on risers behind the band in
an effort to maintain Hagar's tradition of creating a club atmosphere
onstage.

Bathed in red lights, Hagar kicked off his set with the apropos "Red."

"We're gonna turn this whole f---ing place red," screamed Hagar, who was
wearing a yellow T-shirt from his Cabo Wabo club that said, "Got Tequila"
across his chest. He quickly went into the Van Halen hit "Runaround," which
prompted the sea of fans to collectively mimic Hagar, who was whipping his
arm around in a circular motion.

At times, Hagar was a little too chatty between songs, often using long
stories to segue into the next tune.

"It's still daylight and I'm going to get drunk," Hagar said. He yelled
"Waitress!" and in response, a scantily clad woman arrived onstage to pour
him a margarita. "It's my first of the day, so make it a double," he
instructed.

He coaxed the woman, a "calendar girl" from a local radio station, to imbibe
with him momentarily. "It's OK to drink on the job. As a matter of fact,
it's mandatory."

After wrapping up "Top of the World," Hagar admitted that he was somewhat
nervous.

"I didn't know what to expect today because, well, you know why," he said,
referring to his tempestuous relationship with Roth. "All I got to say is
this is: f---ing killer. This is the sh--. That's what I'm talkin' about.
Waitress!"

Hagar took a potshot at Eddie Van Halen, who is now reportedly healthy after
receiving treatment for cancer. Among the groups of fans onstage was a
cardboard cut-out of the axeman, whose head the red rocker smacked after
saying, "You don't have nothin' to say? Didn't think so."

He further revved up the crowd by hitting a Cabo Wabo Tequila bottle piñata
with his guitar after singing "Mas Tequila." When the bottle opened, a
mop-haired green worm popped out.

Vocally, Hagar rose above a hoarse-sounding Diamond Dave, who needed a bit
of polishing. Hagar's voice soared to impressive heights during songs such
as "Eagles Fly," "Dreams" and the closer, "Right Now."

Roth was the antithesis of Hagar, who used videotapes of topless women at
one point as a backdrop for his show. The flamboyant original VH frontman
opted for a more "artsy" approach with his videos, repeatedly showing
different variations of cat-suit-wearing women and an armed Roth searching
the halls for those unknown. Interspersed with those scenes were shots of
Roth doing martial arts.

He couldn't measure up to Hagar's charisma, however. Aside from a few kicks,
Roth exchanged personality for shaking his spandex-covered lower body toward
the audience. His stage banter was minimal; he let his body and lyrics do
the talking for him. Roth, who botched the words to "(Oh) Pretty Woman,"
used a bottle of Jack Daniel's to mimic a sex act and, upon "completion,"
splashed the liquor on fans sitting close to the stage.

Using suspenders to keep up his spandex pants, Dave ended his set with a
martial-arts-style, baton-twirling number during an instrumental part of Van
Halen's hit "Jump." He bowed with the stick tucked under his arm, looking
like a majorette in a high school band.

Van Halen fans' "Sammy vs. Dave" battle clearly had a winner Wednesday
night: Right here, right now, Hagar was on "Top of the World."

Over and Out,
General Hina

[Big Troubles]

ah shit. Time to educate... here we go Army regs.

that review from when? 2 yrs ago? was made by one...COUNT EM, 1 person.By Christina Fuoco

CUYAHOGA FALLS, Ohio

Christina Fuoco is 22, and is a freelance writer for her small town in nowhere land OHIO. So right away she doesn't matter. 22? Who do you think she will like more? The more recent singer in the band? Or the one she has ZERO idea about?

[General Hina]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
your opinion. and in this Army your opinion means shit. not even shit. it actualy means less than shit. If thats possible. why is it that when you review a concert by Dave, you talk about all the bad things, AS YOU SEE IT, and none of the good things that THE REST OF THE CROWD SEEN. Why is that I wonder?

So are you telling me, that because Dave didn't talk to the crowd in LA, that he has NO charisma? And what is the meaning of cover band to you? See if Dave =VH. Than what band is he covering? If anything VH has been covering up for the loss of Dave since 1984.
You say you seen him on the 81 FW tour, the 1984 tour and the EEAS tour, but yet you're not a fan of Dave's? Hmm...You got some issues man.

Over and Out? 10 4 good buddy! fucking loser.

A great front man acknowledges the crowd. A broken down, embarrassed old fool does not. And yes by ignoring his fans because he was embarrassed by his lack of singing voice is a man who has lost his charisma. You are a blind follower of a once great performer.

Over and Out,
General Hina

[Big Troubles]

silly faggot dicks are for chicks.

Dave is the essential frontman for the last 30 years. A singer starting out looks to dave and watch what Dave did. Not what Dave does. He's older and a bit slower. So fucking what? Sam isn't slower? Sam has charisma? Sandels and capri pants dont equal cool buddy. They equal time spent on a Psych lounge. He's a 60 yr old man who thinks he's made it and is cool. He didn't knock down doors to get where he's at. He's got no creativity what so ever. I cant drive 55 sounds like it came of the back of a cereal box for fucks sakes! That guy must've blown everyone to get where he is. Simply the truth. Hurts huh? Thats a fact.
Most people in the Army dont believe Roth is God or is Perfect. But all of us believe he is God standing next to Spermmy. And perfection? Shit, all Dave has to do is stand next to Sam, and everyone knows Dave is the King.

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by General Hina
A great front man acknowledges the crowd. A broken down, embarrassed old fool does not. And yes by ignoring his fans because he was embarrassed by his lack of singing voice is a man who has lost his charisma. You are a blind follower of a once great performer.

Over and Out,
General Hina

Sounds like somebody flashed their boobs to no avail. Get in touch with rejection, embrace and nourish it. Irony will be your new best friend!

[Big Troubles]

lol nice.

[thefive]

Originally posted by General Hina
Here's a review. i will post one of these a day until you get the point.

MAY 30
VH1 ONLINE
May 30, 2002

David Lee Roth Shakes It In Spandex, Sammy Hagar Bashes Eddie At Tour Debut

Former Van Halen frontmen go heavy on shtick, VH tunes at first date of
joint tour.


By Christina Fuoco

CUYAHOGA FALLS, Ohio - The pervading feeling between dueling former Van
Halen frontmen David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar may never be love, but fans
showed a lot of it Wednesday at Blossom Music Center.

Vintage Van Halen T-shirts peppered the fiery crowd. Fortysomething women
fashioned the Van Halen symbol with their hands as they shook their
shoulders to songs such as "5150" and "Panama." A group of teenage boys
wrote with marker "f--- Eddie" on their arms, referring, of course, to VH
guitarist Eddie Van Halen.

The admiration was mutual between the crowd and Roth and Hagar. Mop-haired
Hagar opened the show at 7:15 p.m. - the singers are alternating set order
during the tour - with a video retrospective that included interviews, clips
of magazine stories and Van Halen photos. It hit a snag midway through, and
kicked back to the beginning of the film. When it finished, a curtain was
drawn to allow a select number of fans to stand on risers behind the band in
an effort to maintain Hagar's tradition of creating a club atmosphere
onstage.

Bathed in red lights, Hagar kicked off his set with the apropos "Red."

"We're gonna turn this whole f---ing place red," screamed Hagar, who was
wearing a yellow T-shirt from his Cabo Wabo club that said, "Got Tequila"
across his chest. He quickly went into the Van Halen hit "Runaround," which
prompted the sea of fans to collectively mimic Hagar, who was whipping his
arm around in a circular motion.

At times, Hagar was a little too chatty between songs, often using long
stories to segue into the next tune.

"It's still daylight and I'm going to get drunk," Hagar said. He yelled
"Waitress!" and in response, a scantily clad woman arrived onstage to pour
him a margarita. "It's my first of the day, so make it a double," he
instructed.

He coaxed the woman, a "calendar girl" from a local radio station, to imbibe
with him momentarily. "It's OK to drink on the job. As a matter of fact,
it's mandatory."

After wrapping up "Top of the World," Hagar admitted that he was somewhat
nervous.

"I didn't know what to expect today because, well, you know why," he said,
referring to his tempestuous relationship with Roth. "All I got to say is
this is: f---ing killer. This is the sh--. That's what I'm talkin' about.
Waitress!"

Hagar took a potshot at Eddie Van Halen, who is now reportedly healthy after
receiving treatment for cancer. Among the groups of fans onstage was a
cardboard cut-out of the axeman, whose head the red rocker smacked after
saying, "You don't have nothin' to say? Didn't think so."

He further revved up the crowd by hitting a Cabo Wabo Tequila bottle piñata
with his guitar after singing "Mas Tequila." When the bottle opened, a
mop-haired green worm popped out.

Vocally, Hagar rose above a hoarse-sounding Diamond Dave, who needed a bit
of polishing. Hagar's voice soared to impressive heights during songs such
as "Eagles Fly," "Dreams" and the closer, "Right Now."

Roth was the antithesis of Hagar, who used videotapes of topless women at
one point as a backdrop for his show. The flamboyant original VH frontman
opted for a more "artsy" approach with his videos, repeatedly showing
different variations of cat-suit-wearing women and an armed Roth searching
the halls for those unknown. Interspersed with those scenes were shots of
Roth doing martial arts.

He couldn't measure up to Hagar's charisma, however. Aside from a few kicks,
Roth exchanged personality for shaking his spandex-covered lower body toward
the audience. His stage banter was minimal; he let his body and lyrics do
the talking for him. Roth, who botched the words to "(Oh) Pretty Woman,"
used a bottle of Jack Daniel's to mimic a sex act and, upon "completion,"
splashed the liquor on fans sitting close to the stage.

Using suspenders to keep up his spandex pants, Dave ended his set with a
martial-arts-style, baton-twirling number during an instrumental part of Van
Halen's hit "Jump." He bowed with the stick tucked under his arm, looking
like a majorette in a high school band.

Van Halen fans' "Sammy vs. Dave" battle clearly had a winner Wednesday
night: Right here, right now, Hagar was on "Top of the World."

Over and Out,
General Hina

This woman doesn't know any thing about the history of Van Halen.

She probably deosn't even know who Alex and Michael are?

She probably doesn't even know it was Dave who had to fight the brothers on naming the band Van Halen.

She probably hasn't even seen the US Festival on tape.

She probably doesn't know what year VH first album came out.


And finally she probably finds Playboy Magazine offensive just because of naked women. OH my gosh!!!!!

thefive

[pete]

Originally posted by General Hina

Favorite Rothism: Even though I can't sing I'll still rip-off my fans and take their money. Bozzy bozzy Bop ditty Bop.

you are the spawn of scum.

[pete]

Originally posted by General Hina
A great front man acknowledges the crowd. A broken down, embarrassed old fool does not. And yes by ignoring his fans because he was embarrassed by his lack of singing voice is a man who has lost his charisma. You are a blind follower of a once great performer.

Over and Out,
General Hina

Listen, faggott!!!

You'll get to blow Sammy this tour again.

And we won't get to see a real concert this year, except for u2 and the Stones.

You Win.

Bitch!

You'll be processing your own brand of cheese processed by you're over-abused ass. (oh yummy LSD and Chong Li - i mean Mae Ling)

Good for you.

Go away!

[TMR]

Originally posted by perticelli
I'd like to hear what the general concensus is on this board and any other opinions from Army regulars as to why you think David Lee Roth is not currently the lead singer of Van Halen.
We all know he's had the opportunity to do so, so there must be a reason why he's not. I'm not making any judgements, i'm curious.

Simple FACT: Eddie's alcoholism has destroyed his life and talent.