Why Eddie Is Not So Great As Vai,satriani,malmsteen...

[perticelli]

This is now entering the realm of the ridiculous. You can certainly have differing opinions on how you like or dislike what ed plays, but you cannot argue his talent and ability and virtuosity. It simply cannot be argued credibly that he is anything other than abso-fucking-lutely great, and being that he is the reason Vai and satch exist is the only answer you need to know.

[Terry]

Pretty much every guitarist who has become popular since 1980 owes Ed a debt of gratitude.

Look at the music scene around 1978. Look at what was popular. Disco, New Wave and synthsizer pop. And most of the guitar players in hard rock bands were working the same old pentatonic blues scales into the ground.

Ed put the focus back on the guitar in the rock genre, and Vai and Satriani both use techniques made visible (although not necessarily pioneered by) Ed.

Zappa buffs aside, most guitar players first got exposed to Vai by his tabulature transcriptions of Eruption and Spanish Fly, around the same point he did the movie Crossroads.

Look at Satriani's first single off Surfing With the Alien. Whammy bar dives and tapping all over the place.

The mark Eddie left is so much larger than that of Satriani and Vai, who will always be two fine players who had the luck of the draw to become popular in Eddie's wake. Ed just got there first.

[Terry]

And as far as Eddie and his keyboards go, he was much better off using the piano as a writing instrument and transposing what he wrote onto guitar (an example being the intro to Hear About It Later) than trading off, for the simple reason that he's really not that much of a keyboardist. At least not from what I've ever heard live or onstage.

[pardo]

I have no problem if Ed uses keyboards like he did on And The Cradle Will Rock or One Foot Out The Door. I can tollerate Jump and I'll Wait without much effort.

But all the Hagar stuff makes me wanna give Ed a keyboard enima! I agree about writing on keys and making them guitar songs. As long as it doesn't suck!

[fenway5150]

Techinically you may have a point but those guys can't touch Ed when it comes to writing great riffs. As much as we hate Sammy, I can't lie....something like Human's Being is cool. It's simple but still bad ass.

[tjvhou812]

eddie was the best
eddie is the best
eddie will always be the best

[VHLifer]

Originally posted by sammycalderone
Eddie never has been so great as those musicians
HE IS GREAT ..ok
but he isn't on that level ..
Ed's creativity died around 1984
the last thing he came was the tapping harmonics (used live on HOT FOR TEACHER UK 1984) not on the 1984 album
but lots on the hagar albums
the other improvement was the drill on poundcake
ANYTHING SINCE THEN ...isnt new.
and im telling you the truth
GIRL GONE BAD 3:55 (listen) he does the same licks and things over and over...he has been doin since the 77 demos!!!!
Ive seen the letterman videos and lespaul tribute
and its no new thing like guitarists malsmsteen,vai or satriani creates all the time
Ed was cool Till 1984 AND im not telling this
cause dave left.
maybe dave left at the right time.
ED ISNT SO COOL
ITS WAY OVER RATED

you're outta your fuckin' mind dude!

[tjvhou812]

Originally posted by VHLifer
you're outta your fuckin' mind dude!

well said, he's a fucking moron

[fenway5150]

And, by the way, Yngvie Malmsteen recently played a place called The Corner Pocket in Orange, Connecticut. It's a fucking pool room with a stage set up in the corner! It fits up to about 300 people....yeah, he's better than Eddie.....right.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by fenway5150
And, by the way, Yngvie Malmsteen recently played a place called The Corner Pocket in Orange, Connecticut. It's a fucking pool room with a stage set up in the corner! It fits up to about 300 people....yeah, he's better than Eddie.....right.

oh my god that is so sad. are you serious dude? he's not better then ed, in terms of creativity, but playing in a pool hall? wow.

if you feel as bad as I do, send $1 to Yngwie Malmsteen c/o..... :D

[TMR]

Originally posted by Hollywood Jesus
Very well said. The three technicians don't resonate in my soul the way Eddie does, or at least has.

Eddie got more pretty and more commercial after Dave. But I gotta say I haven't enjoyed Dave quite as much without Ed either. These guys belong together. I believe the conflict spurred greatness in them both.

Ed has no soul! It died when Dave walked out on the band!

[tjvhou812]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
oh my god that is so sad. are you serious dude? he's not better then ed, in terms of creativity, but playing in a pool hall? wow.

if you feel as bad as I do, send $1 to Yngwie Malmsteen c/o..... :D

thats fucking funny..lmao

[quequekiller]

fucking madness

eddie is god!!!!!!!!
vai is a clone of eddie
satriani......only good, very good....but the hourse, this is a sound of eddie
malmsteen, another almost god but now play so dirty and loud, i love malmsteen but clean, the distortion is the wrong way (for eddie is great like in the fuck album)
george lynch (never the glam rock be so heavy metal) and jason becker, cacoponhy rules!!!!....another gods (for me)
and hendrix, blackmore, iommi, paige, and all the great guitarrost of the history........and a lot of guitarrist of heavy and progresive

[CVHfan]

Malmsteen and Vai are greate guitarists but they left me cold a lot of times. Satriani is really good in my opinion. "Surfing with the Alien" was a great album. Though Eddie Van Halen and Randy Rhoades paved the way for him.

[Coyote]

Re: Flying first class

Originally posted by Switch84
Yeah, whether you're in first class or coach, you're still on the same plane, but the atmosphere is way better up front, Baby!

That depends on the people sitting next to you, honey.