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  • Dave's PA Rental
    Full Member Status

    • Jan 2004
    • 3756

    Re: Another "I Love Dave, But..." Thread

    Originally posted by steve
    Dave's been a major positive influence on my life.
    I respect his intelligence, him as an artist, and I love the music he's created. I've been to six concerts with him and his band the last five years.

    But this morning's show sucked.

    As a host of a four-hour long radio show, he's got to learn to move the attention off of himself and on to whatever issues of the day or people of the day or philosophies he wants to talk about.

    Even the interview...his uncle Manny seems like a cool enough man, but Dave's job as an interviewer is to focus the interviewee and provide narrative for him...not use the interviewee as a tool to promote oneself, which is what Dave did when he constantly referred to Manny as "the man who pushed DLR into showbiz!" (to paraphrase in a hyperbolic way).

    Also, he really needed to push Manny along a little quicker. It was almost like the whole thing was a leisurly interview one would have taped for oneself, and THEN used as material to condence into something for the air or print - not the actual interview itself.

    Also - to fill up FOUR HOURS of entertainment (I don't care who your are or how interesting you think you can be) you need to have a list of topics...topics besides oneself. Inheriently, when one is espousing opinions, one's personallity is going to come out - no need to narrate one's personality.

    On the bright side, based on all the wonderful interviews I've read with Dave over the years and the Boston radio gig's last few days, I think he will get better. I think he was nervous.

    In the last few days of the Boston show he did...he tempered his inner monologue (let his stories tell themselves instead of bragging about everything) and seemed to act more natural - and his intelligence came out and the show was MUCH better.
    I, for one, will not automatically slam someone for speaking negatively about Dave...we all are allowed our own opinions...

    BUT

    To say the show 'sucked' is going to far. It definately did not suck. It was actually pretty good. Better than I expected. Yeah, I said it.

    And, to say that he was nervous...I didnt get a hint of nervousness. I think he was WAY more nervous-sounding during the Boston week.

    But whatever dude. I think you might have been expecting something different...like maybe you were expecting retarded phone sex, anal ring-toss and stories of masturbation...that's not what this show is going to be.
    Maybe this is what a heroine addict feels like after getting a long awaited fix, shooting up in the corner of some abandoned building and just not giving a fuck about what the rest of the world thinks...TATTOO"

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    • steve
      Sniper
      • Feb 2004
      • 841

      Re: Re: Another "I Love Dave, But..." Thread

      Originally posted by Dave's PA Rental
      I, for one, will not automatically slam someone for speaking negatively about Dave...we all are allowed our own opinions...

      BUT

      To say the show 'sucked' is going to far. It definately did not suck. It was actually pretty good. Better than I expected. Yeah, I said it.

      And, to say that he was nervous...I didnt get a hint of nervousness. I think he was WAY more nervous-sounding during the Boston week.

      But whatever dude. I think you might have been expecting something different...like maybe you were expecting retarded phone sex, anal ring-toss and stories of masturbation...that's not what this show is going to be.
      Read the end of my post!
      I wasn't expecting anal ring toss (not that there's anything wrong with that).
      Last edited by steve; 01-03-2006, 10:14 PM.

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      • steve
        Sniper
        • Feb 2004
        • 841

        Re: Re: Another "I Love Dave, But..." Thread

        Originally posted by Dave's PA Rental
        I, for one, will not automatically slam someone for speaking negatively about Dave...we all are allowed our own opinions...

        BUT

        To say the show 'sucked' is going to far. It definately did not suck. It was actually pretty good. Better than I expected. Yeah, I said it.

        And, to say that he was nervous...I didnt get a hint of nervousness. I think he was WAY more nervous-sounding during the Boston week.

        But whatever dude. I think you might have been expecting something different...like maybe you were expecting retarded phone sex, anal ring-toss and stories of masturbation...that's not what this show is going to be.

        Different people resolve stage fright in different ways...
        Dave tended to ramble today - not even in his usual the non-sequetor way - just in a boring way.

        For instance, talking to his uncle for AN HOUR about his life before the Cafe Wha? stories (the whole point of him being on the show). Everything before that was pretty par for the course for someone Manny's age - he was in WWII, he stared a few businesses, moved around the country - all great, but nothing out of the ordinary.

        Or talking to the guy that worked the overnight shift at the bank processing center for five minutes...basically about nothing.

        I'm just callin' a spade a spade.

        Today's show reminded me of my youth as a Health Club Lifeguard - working the early morning shift...and the geriatrics would come and start telling me their stories...and I respected them...and I listened..but...IT WAS TORTURE

        I think Dave's show will get better - he's no dummy.

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        • Dave's PA Rental
          Full Member Status

          • Jan 2004
          • 3756

          yes, there were a few rough spots, I agree.

          But to put a wet blanket on the whole show by saying it 'sucked'...
          Maybe this is what a heroine addict feels like after getting a long awaited fix, shooting up in the corner of some abandoned building and just not giving a fuck about what the rest of the world thinks...TATTOO"

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          • DLR'sCock
            Crazy Ass Mofo
            • Jan 2004
            • 2937

            Re: Another "I Love Dave, But..." Thread

            Originally posted by steve
            Dave's been a major positive influence on my life.
            I respect his intelligence, him as an artist, and I love the music he's created. I've been to six concerts with him and his band the last five years.

            But this morning's show sucked.

            As a host of a four-hour long radio show, he's got to learn to move the attention off of himself and on to whatever issues of the day or people of the day or philosophies he wants to talk about.

            Even the interview...his uncle Manny seems like a cool enough man, but Dave's job as an interviewer is to focus the interviewee and provide narrative for him...not use the interviewee as a tool to promote oneself, which is what Dave did when he constantly referred to Manny as "the man who pushed DLR into showbiz!" (to paraphrase in a hyperbolic way).

            Also, he really needed to push Manny along a little quicker. It was almost like the whole thing was a leisurly interview one would have taped for oneself, and THEN used as material to condence into something for the air or print - not the actual interview itself.

            Also - to fill up FOUR HOURS of entertainment (I don't care who your are or how interesting you think you can be) you need to have a list of topics...topics besides oneself. Inheriently, when one is espousing opinions, one's personallity is going to come out - no need to narrate one's personality.

            On the bright side, based on all the wonderful interviews I've read with Dave over the years and the Boston radio gig's last few days, I think he will get better. I think he was nervous.

            In the last few days of the Boston show he did...he tempered his inner monologue (let his stories tell themselves instead of bragging about everything) and seemed to act more natural - and his intelligence came out and the show was MUCH better.

            this I can agree wtih...but I won't say it sucked....

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            • bantonelli
              Crazy Ass Mofo
              • Nov 2004
              • 2629

              FHS...Thanks for the safety tips...I'm actually home and ready for my second wind after reading the crap about Dave's First Day and how many are critiquing him.

              Brief and to the point....Look Guys, for the most part, I think we all respect each other's opinion on Dave's First Day, BUT, Is anyone stopping to realize that this GIG Today was like no other for the Diamond One.

              It's one thing to be a guest host on a Radio show in Boston that will be aired in the Boston Market (no, not the restaurant) and it's a completely different ball game filling in a TimeSlot previously belonging to the King of All Media and having possibly many thousands or a few million people listening and streaming the internet nationwide.

              For a First Day, I give Dave major Kudos. Although we look at him as a Rock Legend with a major dose of confidence, I'll bet he was nervous as hell to make a good impression to CBS and to his audience and to Stern listeners who haven't yet purchased Satellite.

              He's a huge Icon, but he's human as well.....You could tell he was nervous, cuz many times he would go to commercial break, he would repeat that it was 6:00 AM, as if time stood still, when in all reality it was 7:00AM, then became 8:00AM and he was still saying 6:00AM.....so I know he felt the pressure of doing well......so my take is, let's give him a break.

              Perfection for any of us at a new job is usually what we strive for on the first day of the job......BUT, it usually takes us about a full 2 weeks to get comfortable and relaxed in our environment....I'm sure by then, you will hear a more at ease ROTH.

              Let's give him a listen tomorrow morning and give him the benefit of the doubt.
              "Meet us in the Future.....NOT the Pasture".......DLR, August '07, VH Press Conference - Tour '07-'08

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              • Big Fat Sammy
                Veteran
                • Feb 2005
                • 1738

                Another opinion here.....

                The Dr. Phil on crack bits were lame...Dave has no kids, and if he does, then the bitch turned out to be a porn star, and a bad one at that. Please don't give parental advice Dave!

                If Dave talks about himself as much as he did today, then this will BOMB.

                Manny was cool...BUT like many have already noted...there was way too much, Dave needed to guide the discussion along, rather than let the old man ramble for hours.

                Other than that...he has the potential to be better than Stern. I think it will get better.

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                • DLR'sCock
                  Crazy Ass Mofo
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 2937

                  Agreed bantonelli, as I said, Dave needs a little time to get his groove on!

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                  • DlocRoth
                    ROCKSTAR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 5520

                    It's gonna be fine...
                    Fuck Scott Weiland. Fucking asshole. I get trashed all the time and still go to work. And my job sucks ass. -ODShowtime

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                    • Big Fat Sammy
                      Veteran
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 1738

                      Originally posted by bantonelli


                      Let's give him a listen tomorrow morning and give him the benefit of the doubt.
                      Let's

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                      • fuckhowardstern
                        Commando
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 1210

                        Originally posted by bantonelli
                        ...I'm actually home and ready for my second wind after reading the crap about Dave's First Day.....Brief and to the point....Look Guys, ...... this GIG today was like no other for the Diamond One....

                        Very well spoken and glad you made it home safely! I was thoroughly entertained for the three hours that I heard although I think steve made some valid points with respect to Dave's general audience. But jeez - Dave is a rock star not a DJ - there is going to be a learning curve and he will have to work out the kinks a bit.

                        Now go get some SLEEP!

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                        • wiseguy
                          Head Fluffer
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 498

                          Originally posted by fuckhowardstern
                          Thanks for getting my back bantonelli
                          Sweet dreams!!!
                          his back??? ok if thats what you want to call it...fags!

                          but lets stay on track here.
                          8 hours to go till show 2! yes
                          Stay frosty now.
                          Nostalgia is a form of denial. I love denial. I like selective amnesia, too. Mix the two and you've got a hell of a weekend-DLR

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                          • Matt White
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 20569

                            Day 2.........


                            So much better than the schlock that I'm used to in the morning......


                            Heard some of Penn's show on my way home...


                            Now...THAT was brutal......

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                            • fuckhowardstern
                              Commando
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 1210

                              Originally posted by wiseguy
                              his back??? ok if thats what you want to call it...fags!

                              but lets stay on track here.
                              8 hours to go till show 2! yes
                              Bantonelli is a woman you fucking moron. Now that you called me a fag are you over me insulting your wack off picture yet? Or do I have to endure your senseless drivel some more? Dont answer just yet. Go squeeze off a nut looking at your fuck pictures and try not to get caught by your mother when she comes down to do the laundry in the basement of your parents house where your room is. Then when you feel better - come back and play nice, OK?

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                              • Baby's On Fire
                                Veteran
                                • May 2004
                                • 1747

                                Dave did a great job. He wasn't "corny" like the general popuation expects him to be, and he showcased his intelligence and unbelievable worldliness in all that he's done.

                                Anyone who doesn't respect Dave outside of his musical talent is a fucking idiot.

                                Also, there are MANY fans out there....you don't have to be a member of this site, for fuck sakes, to be a fan. People were calling in with props, particularly his helicopter teacher, an EMT, etc.

                                Dave did a fine job laying the ground work and letting people know who he is beyond the schtick.

                                Uncly Manny was FUCKING GREAT. He wasn't on long enough.......

                                Dude is cooler than old stale shit. And he has a great and lively personality, with some good one-liners and cool stories. The man is a fucking legend in NYC and throughout the old-school showbiz community.

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