another brain washed spammy hagar fan! look at this comment!

[bueno bob]

I can understand a lot of the animosity/dislike towards Asia, though, really...most people think of Asia and think of "Heat of the Moment", maybe "Only Time Will Tell"...which goes without saying...

Back in the day, it was big, but now it's early 80's crap and I understand that...myself, I was big with ELP and Yes back in the day, so of course I picked it up...loved it...got into U.K. (Wetton) shortly thereafter...all that prog rock was, well, music to my ears...

I followed them when they replaced Wetton with Payne...loved "Aqua", thought it was brilliant...still do..."Aria" and "Arena" were great, as were the "Archiva" sessions that eventually got released...I kinda slipped off after that, so if Payne hasn't been involved since then, I've been unaware of it.

Geoff Downes has always been the biggest selling point to me though, as I learned piano first prior to teaching myself bass, so I have a love of any sort of progressively driven keyboard rock...this doesn't include Van Hagar, though, let's make that distinction right now...whereas Asia (at least, in later years...say post '91/'92) became more of a real band to me and not just the supergroup thing, Van Hagar/Eddie's keyboards was the dumbing down of the band, not an improvement - Asia always sold the keyboards, so there wasn't any selling out to my ears...it was what it was, you liked it or didn't...

Asia is absolutely known for 1982; nothing will ever change that and everybody will remember them FOR that, and that's OK...every successive album since their contract with Geffen tanked in '90 has been released on a different (and more increasingly independent) label...no radio time...no videos...no promotion...I absolutely understand why people have the impression of them that they do...

But I firmly LOVE the musicianship...songwriting...excellent stuff and sadly missed by most...Asia should have been much bigger than what it was...but that's me...when people think "Heat of the Moment", I think "Military Man", "The Hunter"..."Who Will Stop the Rain"..."Two Sides of the Moon"..."Different Worlds"...etc.

ALL of us have a musical side that somebody will consider "gay"...no biggie...

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Matt White
ASIA SUCKED DOG BALLS....


I'm not surprised a SHEEP would dig them & Spammy Hagar..........

You watch yourself!

lol

[bru87tr]

I agree bob. one thing I dont like is single minded people with no appreciation for music and the variety out there. personally the old Asia tunes that were hits, got old. dont get me wrong sometimes there are days Im in the mood for those but I like all the other stuff off of all 3- Asia, Alpha & Astra! I heard the hits so much I usually skip past them to the other songs. I have been slammed for things I say about JP. dont get me wrong he has had some moments. I like "What About love" off silent nation but have to say I found the rest of the cd a bit weak. they all tend to sound the same and a bit cheesy. I know 80's Asia was cheese but it was good cheese.... like the original star wars. thats what made them so unique. I just dont find that in JP voice or songs.

Astra was the weekest out of the 3 but still good and would listen to that over any JP/Asia cd.

maybe I am not into prog rock as some but I tell you I can listen to anything dream theater does all day long. JP just never hooked me. but I do like some of his songs alot. just most of the cd's with Asia sound the same and only few songs have great meoldies.

wetton has a very distinct voice and JP does not. his voice gets tiring on the ears, but thats my opinion. wettons voice is very cool. or was. back in the day he sounded as good as someone could sound live. I mean youd know it was live by the way the band played but wetton just sounded so good it was like it was a recording.

but hey I am not a musician either. I just know what my ears like.

personally the 80's were the last of any great rock bands and im not talking top 40's crap. whens the last time you heard a great album ? I have not atleast for 10 years. I mean a classic rock album!!!!


Dave or the Grave!!!!! but I think I will be in the grave before I ever see DLR with VH again. pretty sad what ed has done to the band. very sad. atleast Dave kept his legendary status and I dont care what anyone says. vegas didnt crush that a bit. infact most people I talk with didnt even know he did it. but people will always remember spammy ruining that band.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by bru87tr
Astra was the weekest out of the 3 but still good and would listen to that over any JP/Asia cd.

That's cool...I liked Astra as well, but also found it the weakest of the "Original Asia Trilogy"...probably due to Mandy Meyer handling guitar work, losing Steve Howe hurt a bit....of course, there's some great material on it..."Go" and "Voice of America" being predominant, but it's overall a decent spin.

I will be looking forward to hearing what the original lineup comes up with. Howe's sat in and guested with them from time to time over the years...right? Carl and John W also have made contributions, haven't they? I haven't paid THAT much attention...but if that's the case, they shouldn't be totally rusty.

Should be interesting.

[bru87tr]

I dont know if Howe has. but I dont keep up so much. just to see if a reunion will happen. W&D have done stuff here and there together.

im not sure about carl and john. again havent read. kinda funny this all happens after the anouncement of the new cd comin. strange.

good music back then. Yes , ELP.... I thought GTR was cool when they came out too. but that was a one off right ? that didnt last but one year if that.


it will be interesting. I hope they release new stuff. thats what I want. W&D must think they have something in the works to do this. who thought it would have? would be cool if something special came out of it.

[bueno bob]

If they tour, I'll absolutely be there...Wetton's an awesome bassist, was also a big influence on me...both Asia and U.K.

Cool cool.

[bru87tr]

you live in the US ? they are suppose to do a big US tour I suppose. my buddy and I will go. I have the 1990 show rock legends ?????? forget. pulled it out the other day. damn good. would like to seee howe with them though. I think Pat thrall was with them on stage. think he worked later on too with the JP version of asia.

I played drums for 3 years then moved too much and didnt have a place for my set. had 11 piece pearl. that was back in 1984...lol it was a nice set though. I wasnt great but I bet today I could still play. you never really forget. like riding a bike. I practiced alot to my stereo. bummer I never had the chance to get good. I always say I am gonna buy another set but the wife doesnt like the idea.

[Terry]

Think the thing about Asia, for me, is that I expected so much more, considering the caliber of talent there...

...To be fair, I haven't listened to every single track Asia put out, and what I have heard didn't suck, but when you get Steve Howe and Carl Palmer in a band together, and it gets hyped up as a 'supergroup', your expectations are pretty high to start with...and Asia didn't really live up to the hooplah...

Kinda lump Asia right in there with GTR and Emerson, Lake and Powell...nice idea, fair/average results.

[bru87tr]

no doubt!

but Asia wasnt together long enough. really 2 albums. but they were great albums beginning to end.

[Matt White]

Originally posted by bueno bob
You watch yourself!

lol

You hit the nail on the head....I was a teen when they came out....


HATED 'EM!!!

[bru87tr]

hey bob here is another moron check this statement.

"sammy hagar in van halen, they should have changed name?! what are you smoking? telling two brothers that the jackass known as mr. magna carta destroyer david lee roth made that name, you should change it? that's b/s. any person knows that roth wanted to do nothing but covers, eddie, mike and alex wrote the originals and thank god they did. hagar made van halen into a rock/party band rather than the david lee roth show. personally, i'm glad roth has hit rock bottom and would not be invited to a van halen reunion."



oh thats a beauty!!!!!! what an idiot. how can you like progressive rock and admit to liking sammy hagar?

[Matt White]

"hagar made van halen into a rock/party band"


"Heavy" "HEAVY"???


I feel like Jim Mora right now......


HEAVY?????

[Diamondjimi]

Didn't Mandy Meyer play for Krokus back in the 80's ?

[bru87tr]

hey Bob! you got a user rating vote from me!!! anyone who likes pro rock and star wars is ok in my book!!!!

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by bru87tr
hey Bob! you got a user rating vote from me!!! anyone who likes pro rock and star wars is ok in my book!!!!

Thanks for the support