Can Dave still Rescue Van Halen ?

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  • MUSICMANN
    Sniper
    • Apr 2004
    • 837

    #16
    The only fault i have in that way of thinking is, The reason that all four albums with Sammy don't stick is because Dave was not there. Ifr Dave would have still been in the band probably some of those softer radio friendly tune's would had never made on the album. And IMO Anything that VH would have done with the origional members would be a instant classic!!

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    • Dr. Love
      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
      • Jan 2004
      • 7833

      #17
      Some of them wouldn't, maybe... but they were already fighting over songs like "I'll Wait" and "Jump". Some of those Hagar-era songs would have made it.
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      • MUSICMANN
        Sniper
        • Apr 2004
        • 837

        #18
        I'm pretty sure that some would have, but the chemistry that Ed and Dave had would have turned those songs if they would have been released into something totally classic. See the problam that Sammy has always had is that he writes lyrics like his personality , very straight forward and buisness like. That's why him and mike get along so well. They are very working class dudes, where as Dave, AL and ed or very eccentric and kind of out there. I think that when Sammy entered the picture he brought Ed and Al down to his level of writing and that's why you have the music like it is.

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        • Bill Lumbergh
          ROCKSTAR

          • Mar 2004
          • 5472

          #19
          Nobody in the band is on the same level they used to be. However it'd be interesting to see if Dave and Ed could butt heads again and step up to make kickass music together again. I know Dave would be up to it!

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          • DavidLeeNatra
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jan 2004
            • 10715

            #20
            ed is an irrepairable psychopath and alexis an irrepairable asshole...can't be fixed...
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            • smaz
              Commando
              • Mar 2004
              • 1441

              #21
              Originally posted by cwsmith17
              No Dave can not save Van Halen because he can not sing the old songs. Yes, the Van Halen's have ruined it beyond repair.
              I spoke to somebody about Dave who went to the same show as me in February in the U.K., and he had also seen Dave with VH in 1984 and all his solo tours since (all in the U.K.). He said that the Feb show was the best Dave's ever been. I thought he was superb, his voice was great. So Dave can't sing anymore??? When did you last see him?

              Originally posted by Panamark
              Do you all think that Van Halen is actually repairable ? Can Dave still kick this sucker home ? Or have the dumbfucks wrecked it beyond repair ???
              Dave can repair the six pack, but he can't repair anything that Van Hagar did. He may be able to create some smashing songs with Ed, but all the beer may have fucked him up just a bit too much.
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              • SGT ROCK
                Roth Army Recruit
                • May 2004
                • 3

                #22
                Reunited, the original four would are much bigger than their music.

                Dave is more relevant than Sam the instant he does a radio interview as the renewed frontman of VH.

                Reparations would be undeniable in media buzz, concert attendance and "surprise" pregnancies to 35-45 year old couples across the good old US of A.

                ...and that's all in the parking lot before the show.

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                • lms
                  Head Fluffer
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 355

                  #23
                  Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
                  ed is an irrepairable psychopath and alexis an irrepairable asshole...can't be fixed...
                  They were in 77 as well weren't they?
                  "Remember, life is just a game and no one gets out alive"

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                  • DavidLeeNatra
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10715

                    #24
                    Originally posted by lms
                    They were in 77 as well weren't they?
                    ed has changed a lot...drug abuse and heavy drinking, therapists and family wars...not the same...
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                    • bru87tr
                      Commando
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 1211

                      #25
                      the worse VH gets and looks the better Dave looks!

                      this VH ball that keeps rolling downhill just makes the dream reunion look that much better. the worse VH looks the better the reunion that everyone wants with Dave gets.

                      I cant believe that Ed, after all the rock classics he made still wants to write wuss songs!

                      Dave with VH would still be the biggest draw in rock history and would smash the record books. young fans and pushing 40 olders like myself would sell out every show!
                      "I've been rich and I've been poor....rich is better, totally better"

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                      • squib
                        Head Fluffer
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 216

                        #26
                        After this mistake...I mean tour...a line up with Dave would probably need a new album first, a press blitz, and then they would be fine. But by blowing it with sammy here in 2004 and the history of the sisters and lead singers, it makes them look like a joke and seems very hard to recover from.

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                        • secrets
                          Foot Soldier
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 587

                          #27
                          Originally posted by squib
                          After this mistake...I mean tour...a line up with Dave would probably need a new album first, a press blitz, and then they would be fine. But by blowing it with sammy here in 2004 and the history of the sisters and lead singers, it makes them look like a joke and seems very hard to recover from.
                          This is sad but true. You can get away with changing singers maybe once and I mean maybe, but these guys seem to think it doesn't matter who's the singer. Van Hagar are a joke as you say, because of this reason.

                          If Dave got back together with them they could maybe do an album and tour it's not beyond them, look at the Rolling stones or even Aerosmith they're older and still make music and sell out concerts.
                          Achtung Baby I say, I say...

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                          • VH LINKS SUCKS
                            Foot Soldier
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 639

                            #28
                            In terms of a REAl reunion it has to be promoted properly!
                            Like Kiss did when they announced their FIRST REUNION TOUR with the original lineup! They set up a press conference with the original lineup and promoted the tour like it was a presidential election!
                            Without the mega promotion KISS wisely organized for the media, the tour may not have been as big as it was!

                            When the Eagles and Springsteen ( back with the E Street Band ) reunited for the first time, they all held a press conference and promoted the tour. Therefore, the tour dates SOLD OUT and because it was the ORIGINAL lineup!

                            It sure looks like Eddie, Alex, Mike, and Sammy really care about this tour considering there had not been a press conference since the tour leaked via the internet, and NOT a word from Eddie or Alex about this BOGUS reunion tour! In fact, with the exception of Eddie taking a phone call from a couple of idiots from a radio station in which he didn't want to say anything about the upcomming tour or music or anything, he hasn't said a word to the fans. He sure doesn't want to hear about DAVE not being there, guaranteed!

                            The original question if DAVE can still rescue Van Halen? The REAL Reunion tour would be done professionaly and the fans would know that they aren't getting the runaround from Dave! When Dave was in Van Halen you knew you were getting the best! Best merchandise, Best Stage-lights, and best concert performance each and every night!

                            One thing Dave has over any of the idiots in Van Hagar is his charismatic character and love for entertainment and pleasing the fans! Van Hagar doesn't respect it's fans since they refuse to communicate with them from the start of this irrelevant tour.

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                            • BrownSound1
                              ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 3025

                              #29
                              Originally posted by cwsmith17
                              No. Dave can no longer sing the "six pack" songs.

                              You are 100% full of shit on that one.

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                              • DLR_EngineRoom
                                Veteran
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 2304

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Panamark
                                Do you all think that Van Halen is actually repairable ? Can Dave still kick this sucker home ?
                                He can and he will. Very soon. Watch.....
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