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  • philouze
    Banned
    • Mar 2004
    • 2171

    Found this over @ DDLR.com

    I bumped into this post, written by "Swan"..
    If anybody here or @ ddlr.com wants to get this thread deleted, DO IT.

    Anyway, here's the thing:

    "Here is my review. And if you have seen VH as many times as I have then I am sure you would agree.

    First off VH is not VH without Mike A, nor would they today be VH with Mike A. The whole Van Hagar era has thrown a nasty curve ball into Edwards playing style that he just can't seem to reverse. And poor DLR has smoked his way right out of one of the greatest screams ever known to modern rock.

    All that aside, Here is my honest review of the show.

    I could have sat in the front but asked that I be provided with the dead center last seat in the house, and that's what I got. You could hear everything free and clear and see everything perfect. And best of all no drunken assholes yelling out for Free Bird in my ear all night.

    THE GOOD

    The staging and lighting was simply breathtaking. The new computerized lighting system and the choice of color palates were remarkable. The big screen was true HD. They put some serious thought into this. If they had only had this set up when they weren't so damn old and ugly.

    DLR may just have sounded the best I have ever heard him, except for the missing scream of course. He was in perfect shape and really surprised me at how much effort he put into hitting the notes. During I'll Wait, he even stopped in his tracks and put his hand over one ear and concentrated to hit every hi note. That really shocked me that he cared about his performance, and best yet he kept the commentary to a very minimal level and concentrated on the music.

    AVH was also really on top of his game as well. His solo was a rare treat as drum solos go. Nothing lost on the years there.

    Wolf also held his own although he does approach the bass more like a guitar player which at times made for some busy spots. But he can't sing to save his life. For his age he did a tremendous job.

    THE BAD

    Although Wolf held his own, his approach to bass made for some very hit and miss arrangements. Some of the tracks really had a new found power to them that they never had before, but others turn to mush with his rhythm heavy sound competing with his pop. Mike A did his job and held down the bottom end were as Wolf was playing everywhere.

    The prerecorded background vocals. The mighty VH would have never stooped to this level, they would have practiced their harmonies and nailed it. One interesting thing is that some of backgrounds had prerecorded audience sing along mixed in listen to Jamie's Cryin’ and you will hear it. More on the tell tale signs of the prerecorded vocals later.

    EVH was dreadful. Yes I said dreadful. He was half playing rhythms and fudging solos and worst of all he has introduced the sustainer pickup and an overused Wah pedal to cover up his Loss of playing Control. For the first half of the show it was not as noticeable, but by the end of the show he went straight to slop city. Listen to him hack ATCWR & Little Dreamer and the solo YIKES them Jump took on a whole new meaning when Ed was playing a whole different song is a whole different key.

    I truly believe that Ed is having difficulties if not fallen off the wagon. He seemed lost toward the end of the show, and totally gave away the phony vocal thing. They kept panning the big screen on Ed during times when he was supposed to be singing but good old Ed was yelling to his guitar tec while magically throwing his voice over to the mic. He was off the mic so many times when he was supposed to be singing it was comical.

    DLR saved the day on this one. I think Ed is back on the bottle and will be shocked if they finish the tour.

    If you have never seen VH you still owe it to yourself to witness DLR in his true element. He has not lost a thing. And again the staging is worth seeing, but overall to me it was like seeing Van Hagar with DLR singing simply because Ed is trapped in some substance induced time warp."


    Your opinions ??
  • philouze
    Banned
    • Mar 2004
    • 2171

    #2
    Nobody will react ? Ok, then.. Dump this shit.

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    • PlexiBrown
      Commando
      • Mar 2006
      • 1264

      #3
      Ed is playing way better on this tour than this guy says. NEXT!!
      And God heard the voice of the lad. Then the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said to her, “What ails you, Hagar? Genesis 21:17

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      • philouze
        Banned
        • Mar 2004
        • 2171

        #4
        Oh, I forgot to mention.. This "human being" talks about the first Philly show.

        I really don't get it, guys n gals, I'm listening to it, and in NO FUCKIN WAY whatever he says is true. Is it just me, or...?

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49567

          #5
          Originally posted by philouze
          Nobody will react ? Ok, then.. Dump this shit.
          What "reaction" are you looking for? Are we supposed to be pissed Ed-sheep or something? Why bother reposting personal-opinion threads from other websites that aren't yours?

          I think he exaggerates Ed's playing pitfalls, but I've little doubt he's using again, based on the 30-day rehab sham and the fact that Ed has been in and out of rehab since the dawn of Van Hagar...
          Last edited by Nickdfresh; 10-03-2007, 12:45 PM.

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          • philouze
            Banned
            • Mar 2004
            • 2171

            #6
            Hey hey hey, Nick.. Just calm down, dude..
            I wasn't expecting Big reactions, but just a kinda discussion about some of the statements this guy made.
            Now, I promise, I will never post a horseshit like that Ever Again.
            This I vow...

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            • ZahZoo
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Jan 2004
              • 9173

              #7
              Hey it's just one person's opinion.

              From the boots and videos I wouldn't say Ed's playing is as bad as that outfit says. But there are a few moments where Ed's serving up a little slop. RWTD from Greensboro Ed's guitar sounds terribly out of tune and he's off on his timing pretty bad. That's probably the worst I've heard/seen so far.
              "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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              • Ellyllions
                Veteran
                • Mar 2006
                • 2012

                #8
                Ok, my husband also believes that Ed was drunk.

                I disagree. From what I could see, there was no drunkenness. From the boot of my show, I didn't hear drunk I heard rushed songs, flubs, and tuning problems with Ed.

                Hot for Teacher comes to mind first because it was FAST, very fast.

                I think several things are going on.

                There can be little wiggle room for what we call "band time". Wolf has to be off that stage 11pm no-ifs-ands-or-buts and they do have a song list to get through in the amount of time that they're on the stage. So, they have to start on time no matter what if they're going to get the full show on by 11pm. If they're 15 minutes late they've gotta make it up somewhere...

                I think they're trying as hard as they can to turn out a great product that's worth the ticket money and I think they're doing a fucking fantastic job of it.

                I think everyone is being a little harsh in trying to look at it so closely for perfection. It's a live show, they're human...but it truly is the band the majority of us have been waiting for. Why not just fucking enjoy it?
                "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  #9
                  Based on the few boots i've seen, I tend to agree with this guy...


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                  • Jano
                    Commando
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 1025

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ellyllions
                    Ok, my husband also believes that Ed was drunk.

                    I disagree. From what I could see, there was no drunkenness. From the boot of my show, I didn't hear drunk I heard rushed songs, flubs, and tuning problems with Ed.

                    Hot for Teacher comes to mind first because it was FAST, very fast.

                    I think several things are going on.

                    There can be little wiggle room for what we call "band time". Wolf has to be off that stage 11pm no-ifs-ands-or-buts and they do have a song list to get through in the amount of time that they're on the stage. So, they have to start on time no matter what if they're going to get the full show on by 11pm. If they're 15 minutes late they've gotta make it up somewhere...

                    I think they're trying as hard as they can to turn out a great product that's worth the ticket money and I think they're doing a fucking fantastic job of it.

                    I think everyone is being a little harsh in trying to look at it so closely for perfection. It's a live show, they're human...but it truly is the band the majority of us have been waiting for. Why not just fucking enjoy it?
                    You're fucking right !!!
                    just enjoy the fucking show!
                    little french dreamer hate those Van Hagar backstage party!!
                    http://deliajolie.spaces.live.com/

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                    • DirtyDeeds
                      Roadie
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 112

                      #11
                      I believe that anybody that says they can hear "prerecorded audience sing along" in the mix is full of shit.

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                      • PlexiBrown
                        Commando
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 1264

                        #12
                        Even in the CVH days Ed would screw up some things live. He is playing well for the most part and with lots of energy. I know that I can't play guitar flawlessly while running and jumping all over the place.
                        And God heard the voice of the lad. Then the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said to her, “What ails you, Hagar? Genesis 21:17

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                        • PlexiBrown
                          Commando
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 1264

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DirtyDeeds
                          I believe that anybody that says they can hear "prerecorded audience sing along" in the mix is full of shit.
                          I agree.
                          And God heard the voice of the lad. Then the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said to her, “What ails you, Hagar? Genesis 21:17

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                          • VAiN
                            Use my hand, I won't look
                            ROCKSTAR

                            • Nov 2006
                            • 5056

                            #14
                            This review is so inaccurate it doesn't even deserve a response. Listen to 'I'm the one' from Philly 10.01 and tell me that Ed is sloppy/drunk/whatever. I seriously doubt the vocals are canned - I've heard a few off backing vocals and I was at the soundcheck for Charlotte.
                            This reviewer is full of shit and belongs with Sam & Mike. Fuck him.
                            Originally posted by wiseguy
                            That shit will welcome you in the morning and pour the milk in your count chocula for ya.

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                            • rocknrolldork
                              Foot Soldier
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 545

                              #15
                              Not sure what show this is a review of but I have heard the Charlotte show. If it was from the Charlotte show I have this to say........

                              Ed's playing was pretty good overall but was way better in the first half of the show than the second half. Dave sounds great. Aside from Alex dropping a stick on a verse of RWTD his playing was stellar. Wolf's playing was good and vox were definitely passable for most of the show. They may be getting some help vocally from whoever is playing keys for them but I do not believe the vox are canned. Proof being Little Dreamer, Little Guitars and Jamie's Cryin'.

                              The show sounds great but I have to admit, DTNA and Little Dreamer sound less than inspired. Probably because Alex and Ed have said they don't like playing these 2 songs. The backing vocals (and some lead vocals) are way weak on Little Guitars, Little Dreamer and Jamie's Cryin' as well. Ed's playing is waaaaay off on ATCWR, he botches some of Little Dreamer, flubs the intro of the solo in Ice Cream Man and really trashes Little Guitars. I love the song Little Guitars and I'm glad they are playing it but, as I remember, that song was hard for them to pull off in their heyday too. It is not an easy song to play much less sing while playing.

                              The rest of the show sounds great!!!!!! C'mon 10/14!!!!!!!!!

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