Van Halen removes Michael Anthony from Song writing credits!

[Nickdfresh]

Yup! I'm right...

Interesting, they must have had some deals for use of 1984 songs for soundtracks ("Superbad") and other stuff at the time of the 2004 tour...

How fucking petty are these guys?

Jesus! A couple of buck$ out of Anthony's pocket and into theirs? Does it really make any difference?

[Warham]

Yeah, but the question is, was he legally forced to sign away his rights?

He didn't have to do the 2004 tour, but probably did at Hagar's behest.

Anthony had to have known that there was going to be a Roth reunion at some point. The only way it wasn't going to happen was if Ed dropped dead at any moment.

[Hyman Roth]

Was this posted already somewhere else?

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/09/04/fired-van-halen-bassist-i-found-out-on-the-internet/

"9/4/07, 2:22 pm EST

Fired Van Halen Bassist: “I Found Out on the Internet”

Rolling Stone

..."

[Nickdfresh]

Yeah Mike was dumb to sign away one album blah blah blah...

But the point here is that why is Ed (and I'm sure he's the main one behind this) cutting Mike out of the only album that's legally safe to do, and possibly 'chopping CVH album artwork?

Let's not blame the victim for being dumb; let's blame the perpetrator for being a petty, retarded asshole whose legacy is going to be shittier than George Bush's...

[bigdaddyb]

Originally posted by WAR
http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?..._pp=20&start=1

That's the search for Michael Anthony. No 1984 songs listed.

I just posted this 2 posts up from yours LOL!!

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Hyman Roth
Was this posted already somewhere else?

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/09/04/fired-van-halen-bassist-i-found-out-on-the-internet/

"9/4/07, 2:22 pm EST

Fired Van Halen Bassist: “I Found Out on the Internet”

Rolling Stone

..."

No. Not the album chopping...

[Nickdfresh]

BTW, I bet Mike still gets royalties from 1984, I bet he only agreed to let his name not be used in credits...

How 'bout them apples?

[bueno bob]

It's hard to say. I heard what I did from two separate sources who spoke to him in person back in 2004, but who knows? Like Nick said, my info is second hand...therefore could be erroneous.

Financially, I'm sure Mike's doing better than any of us and can afford to fuck off to crowds of 100-200 a night with Sammy for the rest of his life. And if it's fun for him, hey, I've got no problem with that at all. As far as I'm concerned personally, he's still the bass player for Van Halen and he's always going to be - Wolfgang is simply subbing.

The point of the matter is, regardless of what he has rights to and what he doesn't, Ed forcing him to sign off and surrender his interest in any part of his history in Van Halen as a condition to play in 2004, no matter to what degree, was a very shitty, low class move. In retrospect, I'm sure Mike wishes he wouldn't have done it now, but he's said in several interviews that he was pretty certain Van Halen was on it's last legs based on where Ed was at and after some consideration the right thing for him to do was to go out with it and not let somebody else fill in his position. I can totally understand that position - it's not like there'd been multiple bass players since 1976 and nobody else belongs there.

[PlexiBrown]

It boils down to Ed not wanting Mike in the band for a long time and then as Wolfgang got older Ed wanting his son in the band. Actually, I don't believe what anyone in Van Halen says (past or present) including Mike. Ed is the worst concerning the horse shit but none of them are angels. And Sammy flip flops all over the place and Mike is attached to Spam so who the hell knows what is really going on behind the scenes.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by WAR
Yeah, but the question is, was he legally forced to sign away his rights?

He didn't have to do the 2004 tour, but probably did at Hagar's behest.

Anthony had to have known that there was going to be a Roth reunion at some point. The only way it wasn't going to happen was if Ed dropped dead at any moment.

Well that's kinda the point. He didn't have to do 2004, but c'mon, how many people would have had a FIELD DAY with that??

We were pissy enough that Hagar was back in, how bad would we have been without Mike to boot?

And as I remember, we ALL thought that Ed was going to drop dead at any second...

[Nickdfresh]

Maybe, but it doesn't make it right. In fact, it comes across as just completely phony and spiteful. Pretty much the way Ed slashed Dave for months in 1985-86 before Dave struck back. Needing some villain to blame for his own problems...

Ed is the worst human being by far...

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Let's not blame the victim for being dumb; let's blame the perpetrator for being a petty, retarded asshole whose legacy is going to be shittier than George Bush's...

How about I blame all of them?

[Warham]

Originally posted by bigdaddyb
I just posted this 2 posts up from yours LOL!!

Sorry, dude, you posted that while I was doing the searching. I only saw yours after I posted mine. hehe

[Warham]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Well that's kinda the point. He didn't have to do 2004, but c'mon, how many people would have had a FIELD DAY with that??

We were pissy enough that Hagar was back in, how bad would we have been without Mike to boot?

And as I remember, we ALL thought that Ed was going to drop dead at any second...

I dunno, I didn't care about 2004, period. If Dave wasn't in, I wouldn't have cared if they had a different drummer, guitarist or bass player.

[Hyman Roth]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
BTW, I bet Mike still gets royalties from 1984, I bet he only agreed to let his name not be used in credits...

How 'bout them apples?

He was pretty clear in the interview that he didn't give up his rights to
royalties. Still, I would want to read the contract(s)...

We can deduce from the behavior of the parties and what has been said that Mike is getting shat upon...