The New Van Halen

[cadaverdog]

Would Dave have been so willing to forgive and forget and
agree to do this tour if he head been as successful in his
solo carreer as he was with the origanal Van Halen?

[indeedido]

I think he has always missed being in VH. But if he were still on top of the music world, probably not.

[dave_is_vh]

Originally posted by cadaverdog
Would Dave have been so willing to forgive and forget and
agree to do this tour if he head been as successful in his
solo carreer as he was with the origanal Van Halen?

I doubt it. You don't see George Michael reuniting with Wham or Yngwie reuniting with Alcatraz.

[binnie]

Mmmmm....

He was never going to be AS successful was he? And he had a pretty good run up to ALAE.

I'm sure he'd have liked the reunion sooner, but wouldn't we all.....

[Little Lamont]

I got a firm opinion on this one. Dave would have never even though of Van Halen again if he'd stayed mega-successful. Remember in the EEAS video he refered to them as the "old band."

[113]

No way would Dave agree to this tour if he wasn`t desparate! Dave stopped being a solo, recording artist in 1996, after the brief reunion with VH. All his shows have been a tribute to VH since. Dave is under Ed`s thumb for this reunion. Ed is controlling Dave, as he does not want Dave to steal the limelight at shows, in interviews, and tv appearances. Dave has sold out!
Although, the shows surpassed my expectations, in terms of how well they played, and looked; Diamond Dave is nowhere to be seen.

[113]

No way would Dave agree to this tour if he wasn`t desparate! Dave stopped being a solo, recording artist in 1996, after the brief reunion with VH. All his shows have been a tribute to VH since. Dave is under Ed`s thumb for this reunion. Ed is controlling Dave, as he does not want Dave to steal the limelight at shows, in interviews, and tv appearances. Dave has sold out!
Although, the shows surpassed my expectations, in terms of how well they played, and looked; Diamond Dave is nowhere to be seen.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Originally posted by cadaverdog
Would Dave have been so willing to forgive and forget and
agree to do this tour if he head been as successful in his
solo carreer as he was with the origanal Van Halen?

You can look at it both ways....

VH was playing to half-empty arenas during the '04 tour.... VH needed Dave just as much as Dave needed them....

[kwame k]

Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
You can look at it both ways....

VH was playing to half-empty arenas during the '04 tour.... VH needed Dave just as much as Dave needed them....

I agree that the only play Van Halen had left was getting back with Dave. Is Dave being controlled by Eddie? I'm not sure. Dave was the only one who could of brought Van Halen back to the big Arenas. Dave maybe toned it down for Eddie but I think as Dave said He understand the History and Legacy of CVH. There’s not many good years left for Eddie and it was now or never for Van Halen.

I think Dave is letting his performances do the talking and IMO Dave comes out of this looking like the true professional. Dave has shown me that he is bankable and can handle the big stages. I understand that the swagger and the one-liners that was the old Dave is missing. In it’s place is a dedicated and a fucking great singer.

Plus, Dave loves Showbiz, baby, his silence is adding more entertainment value to Van Halen. Always leave them wanting more………

[ThrillsNSpills]

Originally posted by 113
No way would Dave agree to this tour if he wasn`t desparate! Dave stopped being a solo, recording artist in 1996, after the brief reunion with VH. All his shows have been a tribute to VH since. Dave is under Ed`s thumb for this reunion. Ed is controlling Dave, as he does not want Dave to steal the limelight at shows, in interviews, and tv appearances. Dave has sold out!
Although, the shows surpassed my expectations, in terms of how well they played, and looked; Diamond Dave is nowhere to be seen.

DLR Band? 1998
great disc

[katie]

Originally posted by ThrillsNSpills
DLR Band? 1998
great disc

Just a shame nobody outside these DLR/VH forums ever heard it.

[Terry]

Doubtful Roth returning would have happened if both Roth AND the Van Halens hadn't witnessed the diminished returns of working without one another over the last decade +.

Commercially, Roth's solo career cratered a few years before Van Halen did, so obviously he's probably wanted this to happen a little longer than the Van Halens did, but where else did the Van Halens have to go? They bombed with Cherone, made a few abortive attempts with Dave, THEN had a lackluster reunion with Hagar (regardless of getting up-front guarantees for the 2004 tour, it MUST have been disheartening to play to half-filled arenas); the Van Halens did just about everything they could to avoid what Dave and everyone else knew SHOULD happen, but they finally came around.

I can't really blame Dave for 'selling out' in terms of supposedly rejoining the band while letting the Van Halens retain control; the dude certainly made plenty of attempts in virtually every form of the entertainment medium post-1996 to rekindle interest in his career, and a career like his DESERVES to go out on a reasonably high note in front of packed arenas.

Hell, better Dave play the CVH tunes with 3/4s of the CVH lineup in front of 18,000 than do the tunes with a group of cover musicians at some state fair in front of 1,800 (even though Brian and Toshi play Ed's stuff better than Ed himself can these days).

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by ThrillsNSpills
DLR Band? 1998
great disc

Originally posted by katie
Just a shame nobody outside these DLR/VH forums ever heard it.

Not true. I can personally attest to two instances that I remember.

This fucker that has a machine shop had a copy of it playing when I walked in to his machine shop one day. I went, "Who gave you this CD?" He went, "I bought it off Amazon....I couldn't find it around town." I went, "Do you have all the solo albums??" He went, "This is the only one I have on CD."


This other fucker that tours the WORLD in a prog metal act had it laying on the coffee table while he was bolting stuff to his effects board one night. I went, "Is that a coaster?" He went, "Nah, I'm fixin' to put it on my Ipod." I went, "How's it gonna fit?" He went, "I ain't got time for this."....or something like that.

There ya go.

[knuckleboner]

even if dave had had a hugely successful solo career, he'd have still gone back to van halen.

dave's solo career started in 1985/6. it's really not possible for a hardrock band, and certainly not a solo act to stay around for 20+ years.

so, the only question is, would dave have decided he'd had enough, or would he want one more big hurrah?


in fact, had dave been really successful (3x platinum on ALAE, couple of platinum follow up albums) he'd have played much less van halen in his solo concerts. meaning it would be a big deal (probably a little bigger than it actually was) for dave to go back.

[ThrillsNSpills]

Originally posted by katie
Just a shame nobody outside these DLR/VH forums ever heard it.

Probably more of a distribution issue since Slam Dunk got some airplay.