Let's Make This Crystal Clear

[DLR_EngineRoom]

Originally posted by Ernie123
Okay Gang, let's make this crystal clear for LSD and VanHalen2004... who are probably the same person.

Shall we begin?

You cannot revise history and apologize away all of the crap that came out of these guy's respective mouthes over the past 10 years. Ed and Al's supposed sobriety bs. Sam stating he was screwed and was nothing but accomodating to Ed. Mike Anthony? If he could light himself on fire at a concert nude and it wouldn't be newsworthy. But, I digress...

The facts are these: Ed still drinks and SMOKES. Not too bright if you ask me, if the cancer story was even true. All of this on heels of him stating, the last time we heard from his flaky ass, that he had been sober since 1994 and based EVERY interview on it. Alex is as stupid as ever. I love hearing people with limited intellect trying to be wordsmiths. He really is a cunt. Sam Hagar is as vanilla and insecure as ever. The facts are that he never had the talent to match Roth in VH. Hence, he and his dead manager started to pick and shovel away at Classic VH. Trying to tear it down and show that Van Hagar was better. I have news for Sam, without Classic VH, there is no Van Hagar. That is fact and it will NEVER change. Sam is the replacement. Roth IS the singer. Simple fact gang, you can't dispute it. Sam didn't come before Dave. Just reference Porsche vs. Volkswagon, Mach II and so forth. All bs stated by Sam and his Manager prior to Dave uttering a word about why he left VH.

Lastly, notice I didn't mention Mike Anthony in the previous paragraph? Why, you might ask?? Please reference the second paragraph and you'll know why. Newsworthy is the keyword.... Oh, Valerie not mentioned at all until now??? Same reason..

TAKE THAT, YOU MISGUIDED, MISINFORMED HAGARITA SHEEP!

[Volkster]

Originally posted by DLR_EngineRoom
TAKE THAT, YOU MISGUIDED, MISINFORMED HAGARITA SHEEP!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!!!!:D

[Dan]

Who let the sheep out?

[Antman]

What's sober for Eddie Van Halen? One bottle of wine as opposed to two? A six pack of Heineken vs. a twelve pack? To slip is one thing and unfortunate. But what really boggles my mind is that Sam, Mike and Al don't seem to be doing anything to discourage him from drinking, smoking etc. They are all classic co-dependent enablers. And people wonder why Val left? It's not easy being married to someone with an addiction and it makes it even harder when you have a kid who is being raised in this environment. Wolfgang may have his father's talent, but let's hope is not predisposed to his addictive personality. Alcoholism is a disease and some may even say it's hereditary, some will say it's learned behavior. It's sad to see him this way. Ed does look better than he has recently, but who am I to judge. It's his life and no one can help him if he doesn't want to be helped. The first step for recovery is realizing and admitting you have aproblem. Then you need to accept the fact and get help. Often times addicts are in denial because they can't deal with all the hurt the caused. Once they accept this they can take the next step to recovery. It's still not too late. Ed just needs a better support group, but Ed bankrolls a lot of people by being on the road and as we all know money makes the world go round, regardless of the consequences.

[rockvanhalen66]

hey rogue the horse fucker. if you put something on the market what ever it may be in your case lets say cock back scratchers. and you sell a shit load .and made shit loads of dollars would you .say the money belongs to the butt fuckers that baught them from you . and they own your house and shit. of course not. see when you open your shit hole you sound like you dont know what the fuck you are talking about . evh owes nothing to no one. and if any fans paid for his house and shit like that .guys like you dont count.///////////

[RogueHorseman]

Originally posted by rockvanhalen66
hey rogue the horse fucker. if you put something on the market what ever it may be in your case lets say cock back scratchers. and you sell a shit load .and made shit loads of dollars would you .say the money belongs to the butt fuckers that baught them from you . and they own your house and shit. of course not. see when you open your shit hole you sound like you dont know what the fuck you are talking about . evh owes nothing to no one. and if any fans paid for his house and shit like that .guys like you dont count.///////////

You rode the short bus, right?

You don't have to answer, we understand.

Poor thing...

[RogueHorseman]

Originally posted by Antman
What's sober for Eddie Van Halen? One bottle of wine as opposed to two? A six pack of Heineken vs. a twelve pack? To slip is one thing and unfortunate. But what really boggles my mind is that Sam, Mike and Al don't seem to be doing anything to discourage him from drinking, smoking etc. They are all classic co-dependent enablers. And people wonder why Val left? It's not easy being married to someone with an addiction and it makes it even harder when you have a kid who is being raised in this environment. Wolfgang may have his father's talent, but let's hope is not predisposed to his addictive personality. Alcoholism is a disease and some may even say it's hereditary, some will say it's learned behavior. It's sad to see him this way. Ed does look better than he has recently, but who am I to judge. It's his life and no one can help him if he doesn't want to be helped. The first step for recovery is realizing and admitting you have aproblem. Then you need to accept the fact and get help. Often times addicts are in denial because they can't deal with all the hurt the caused. Once they accept this they can take the next step to recovery. It's still not too late. Ed just needs a better support group, but Ed bankrolls a lot of people by being on the road and as we all know money makes the world go round, regardless of the consequences.

That's a very insightful and well spoken post.

And, what a stark contrast to Drool Boy from RI...

[rockvanhalen66]

ROGUE THE CAMEL JOCKEY. TALK ABOUT A INSIGHFUL POST. GO BACK AND READ MY POST AGAIN . BETTER YET GO GET ED SOME SMOKES AND SOME BEER. NEVER MIND THE PACKY DONT TAKE FOOD STAMPS.

[RogueHorseman]

Originally posted by rockvanhalen66
ROGUE THE CAMEL JOCKEY. TALK ABOUT A INSIGHFUL POST. GO BACK AND READ MY POST AGAIN . BETTER YET GO GET ED SOME SMOKES AND SOME BEER. NEVER MIND THE PACKY DONT TAKE FOOD STAMPS.

Please wipe your mouth before you speak... damn, Drool Boy. We're trying to have some sympathy for you, we really are, but damn it all.

[RogueHorseman]

Guys, Drool Boy from RI rode the short bus, OK, just so everyone understands.

Poor thing...

[Bad Muthafucker]

alex van cock licker is a hypocrit. period. i still remember the mtv special they did back in '96 with edward and alex sitting on the couch trash-talking both spermmy and dave. remember it? with alex running off at the mouth saying something like, "dave was calling me all the time asking when are we taking this on tour. dave, when are we taking WHAT on tour? we haven't recorded an album yet! we only did TWO songs! two songs isn't enough to tour on, we need to make a FULL album. otherwise, it would be just going out there and stealing the fans' money."

remember alex saying that stuff? i certainly do. so, TWO songs wasn't enough to tour on, but THREE is????? oh yeah, that one lousy little extra song makes all the difference, alex? what an money-hungry, hypocritical asshole. no wonder why his wife left him.

[EmpyreLounge44]

Originally posted by bad_muthafucker
alex van cock licker is a hypocrit. period. i still remember the mtv special they did back in '96 with edward and alex sitting on the couch trash-talking both spermmy and dave. remember it? with alex running off at the mouth saying something like, "dave was calling me all the time asking when are we taking this on tour. dave, when are we taking WHAT on tour? we haven't recorded an album yet! we only did TWO songs! two songs isn't enough to tour on, we need to make a FULL album. otherwise, it would be just going out there and stealing the fans' money."

remember alex saying that stuff? i certainly do. so, TWO songs wasn't enough to tour on, but THREE is????? oh yeah, that one lousy little extra song makes all the difference, alex? what an money-hungry, hypocritical asshole. no wonder why his wife left him.

you know that is a very good point, but it isnt really hypocritcal since they did do more than two songs....just funny. and another thing I just noticed...

Originally posted by Ernie123
The facts are that he never had the talent to match Roth in VH. Hence, he and his dead manager started to pick and shovel away at Classic VH.

Thats not a fact, thats your opinion. Some would say he has more musical talent than DLR...i know i know, SHEEP. clever

[RogueHorseman]

Originally posted by bad_muthafucker
...no wonder why his wife left him.

Quick correction: Plural as in wives

What has it been now, five or six latest count?

[EmpyreLounge44]

Originally posted by RogueHorseman
Quick correction: Plural as in wives

What has it been now, five or six latest count?

come on now...he has been on tour for two weeks...its got to be up to 10 or 11 by now

[MNFan]

Does anyone really remember when DLR left Van-Halen back in the 80's. DLR LEFT! His ego was so overblown that he thought he could do a solo album and movies and that he no longer needed the rest of the band. He was out of his mind to think that he had that much power or popularity. Warner Brothers had the "best of both worlds", DLR solo making money and VH with a new frontman making money. Perfect strategy for the company.

Now with that said, DLR did put together some great music after he first left. But neither he or Sammy or Gary Cherone will ever be the lyricist that say someone like Bob Dylan is. Or Neal Pert. Or Sting. Van Halen has always been aobut sex, drugs, and rock and roll. Lyrics take a back seat to the music; all the music, drums, bass and of course guitar.

Eddie was found by Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley from KISS. They wanted to dump Ace and add Eddie but he didn't want any part of that. DLR was brought in and they were signed by Warner Brothers (grudginly as well because WB wanted VH to have Sammy be thier frontman when they first signed)

They pumped out albums faster than anyone else for three or four years. Toured nonstop and raised alot of hell. Eddie actually wrote "jump" for the Women and Children First album and the first major conflict between the ego's of Dave and Eddie appeared. Dave said "noone wants to hear you play the fucking keyboard"...imagine how history would have changed if Ed had said "fuck you noone wants to listen to you sing" Eddie is a musician not just a guitar player. Dave is a frontman (one of the best in history but still just a frontman).

I have all the songs (except Fair Warning-still don't own that one-couldn't tell ya why), including VH3 with GC and an import bootleg that was from '77 (yeah that is 1977-not many of you were alive then) that was done in a couple hotels in Cali...you wanna talk about RAW! Try to find it, it cost me $35 in a lil corner music shop.

Ego's are what blew the band apart. Ego's are what brought them back toghether for one best of album and now another. I have tickets to the show in MN already. I wouldn't miss any chance to see Ed play the guitar. He could get rid of everyone in the band and pick up three new people and I would still go see him. Personal opinions are just that-Opinions. And alot of times they are like assholes...everyone has one and it usually stinks.

Just a little history lesson and my stinky opinion...