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  • Carloscda
    Foot Soldier
    • Jan 2009
    • 666

    If Van Halen...

    Was to do Story Tellers, Behind The Music and release Full video from their live shows 78-84, the amount of money they would make would be crazy!!

    Last weekend VH-1 classic had Kiss on, showed their documentary & concerts. People talk about Daves voice, have they heard Pauls??! Train wreck!
    In the Doc, Gene talks about Vincent saying how he didn't like him to much because of his playing style. He's not impressed by fast finger work, so why did he want Eddie in the band?
  • Mushroom
    Commando
    • Jul 2009
    • 1217

    #2
    Originally posted by Carloscda
    Gene talks about Vincent saying how he didn't like him to much because of his playing style. He's not impressed by fast finger work, so why did he want Eddie in the band?
    Because, back in the day, Eddie could put a boogie-groove to any guitar riff, and add a little extra emotion to any guitar lick. Vincent was just lame.

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    • Mushroom
      Commando
      • Jul 2009
      • 1217

      #3
      Originally posted by Carloscda
      Was to do Story Tellers, Behind The Music and release Full video from their live shows 78-84, the amount of money they would make would be crazy!!
      I'm not convinced they would make boat loads of cash. this sort of packaging is more expensive to produce, and sells for more money. And your average VH fan probably couldn't care less. on the other hand, record companies love people like me.

      for market comparison, go check out total sales for U2 "remastered/expanded" Joshua Tree. what does that tell ya? boat loads of cash?

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      • Big Troubles
        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
        • Feb 2004
        • 8517

        #4
        Originally posted by Carloscda
        so why did he want Eddie in the band?

        Scheme Gene didn't want Eddie in Kiss. Never. He told him flat out "you are too fast, Kiss is meat and potatoes". It was Ed that wanted in. This is old school VH. The famous limo ride. Anthony describing how Gene would wear those boots, making him 8 feet tall, when they were doing demos. Dave had "jealousy" over Edwardo wanting in Kiss, because that, quite frankly, would leave Dave w/o Ed. And also..Ed was his band mate AND friend....It was a "fuck you" to Dave from Day 1. Thankfully Ed took Genes advice and went along with Roth and told Ed to be dedicated to the music and not so much what Dave was doing "character wise". Make good music. Gene likes to think he discovered VH. There are so many things wrong with that statement. But no matter how you argue it. VH discovered VH.
        "FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKIN' BITCH! WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ANYWAYS? TALK TO ME LIKE THAT? FUCK YOU. DRAG QUEEN LOOKIN' WHORE- YOU AINT SHIT. YOUR THE FRECKLE TO THE LEFT OF MY BROWN EYE. NOW GO MAKE YOURSELF USEFUL...OH, PUT DAD ON THE PHONE"

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35755

          #5
          The best thing Gene did was to leave them alone.

          A Van Halen 1 produced by him would have been good rather than spectacular. In the demos he polluted them with the mediocrity of Kiss.

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          • sadaist
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jul 2004
            • 11625

            #6
            Originally posted by Big Troubles
            Gene likes to think he discovered VH.

            Gene likes to think a lot of things. He probably thinks he would still have gotten loads of pussy had he become an ophthalmologist.
            “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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            • Va Beach VH Fan
              ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
              • Dec 2003
              • 17913

              #7
              Originally posted by Seshmeister
              The best thing Gene did was to leave them alone.ss.
              UNLESS, it's to erroneously claim that he discovered VH.

              The demo that Gene got for them did NOT get VH a contract.....

              You can't fool us, Gene....
              Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

              "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

              "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35755

                #8
                Crazy post.

                Stanley can't talk never mind sing.

                It's like listening to Elmer Fudd on helium.

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                • VAiN
                  Use my hand, I won't look
                  ROCKSTAR

                  • Nov 2006
                  • 5056

                  #9
                  Originally posted by deero
                  Sorry, Paul has a better voice than dave, dave always had a limited range so he overdid those yelpy-buttmoan-squeals. Saw KISS last week, great show, saw vh last year, just ok, even with dave trying way too hard, just ok, it was hard to watch dave be a former shadow of himself.
                  Seriously, Fuck You.
                  Originally posted by wiseguy
                  That shit will welcome you in the morning and pour the milk in your count chocula for ya.

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                  • VAiN
                    Use my hand, I won't look
                    ROCKSTAR

                    • Nov 2006
                    • 5056

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                    UNLESS, it's to erroneously claim that he discovered VH.

                    The demo that Gene got for them did NOT get VH a contract.....

                    You can't fool us, Gene....
                    It's funny, because I've had a few people ask me that same question about piece of shit kiss 'discovering' VH, lately... What the fuck? Is it because fucking lame ass kiss is in town here and the fans are rabid? Kiss can suck my balls through my ass.. is that clear enough? I fucking hate that band...
                    Originally posted by wiseguy
                    That shit will welcome you in the morning and pour the milk in your count chocula for ya.

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35755

                      #11
                      You only have to compare early bootlegs to the Gene demos.

                      He somehow managed to strip out a lot of everything that was amazing about the band. Ted Templeman who wasn't really a rock producer up to this point but he immediately realized that all they needed was someone to capture their live sound.

                      Kiss were just a gimmicky novelty act.

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                      • Diamondjimi
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • May 2004
                        • 12086

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Queero
                        Sorry, Paul has a better voice than dave, dave always had a limited range so he overdid those yelpy-buttmoan-squeals. Saw KISS last week, great show...
                        Apples and oranges, Dumbass!


                        Originally posted by Seshmeister
                        Crazy post.

                        Stanley can't talk never mind sing.

                        It's like listening to Elmer Fudd on helium.
                        Paul Stanley talks like a New York dragqueen on Qualudes...
                        Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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                        • Big Troubles
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 8517

                          #13
                          Originally posted by deero
                          Sorry, Paul has a better voice than dave, dave always had a limited range so he overdid those yelpy-buttmoan-squeals. Saw KISS last week, great show, saw vh last year, just ok, even with dave trying way too hard, just ok, it was hard to watch dave be a former shadow of himself.

                          Although often noted more for physical than for technical vocal prowess, Roth's bluesy baritone voice and distinctive screams, along with his often humorous and campy lyrics, were integral to Van Halen's sound. Roth is able to take his voice into a multi-pitched wheeze/rasp, almost like a train whistle (see Throat singing).



                          David Lee Roth (born October 10, 1955) is an American rock vocalist, songwriter, actor, author, and former radio personality, best known as the original and current lead singer of Van Halen. In addition to his work with Van Halen, Roth is a successful solo artist, having released several platinum and gold solo albums. Sometimes referred to as Diamond Dave, Roth rejoined Van Halen in 2007 for a North American tour that became the highest grossing tour in the band's history.
                          "FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKIN' BITCH! WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ANYWAYS? TALK TO ME LIKE THAT? FUCK YOU. DRAG QUEEN LOOKIN' WHORE- YOU AINT SHIT. YOUR THE FRECKLE TO THE LEFT OF MY BROWN EYE. NOW GO MAKE YOURSELF USEFUL...OH, PUT DAD ON THE PHONE"

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                          • VanHalener
                            ROCKSTAR

                            • Nov 2006
                            • 5451

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Carloscda
                            Was to do Story Tellers, Behind The Music and release Full video from their live shows 78-84, the amount of money they would make would be crazy!!...
                            I'd open the wallet pretty wide for that.
                            ~Only you can prevent low volume~

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                            • sonrisa salvaje
                              Veteran
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 2098

                              #15
                              Originally posted by deero
                              Sorry, Paul has a better voice than dave, dave always had a limited range so he overdid those yelpy-buttmoan-squeals. Saw KISS last week, great show, saw vh last year, just ok, even with dave trying way too hard, just ok, it was hard to watch dave be a former shadow of himself.
                              1. Are you an expert on buttmoan squeals?
                              2. You actually paid to see Kiss without Ace and Peter.
                              3. You think Dave was a shadow of himself but Kiss was not with two scabs
                              in the band.

                              Conclusion: Good job supporting why your opinion in this thread is needed. If you have any more compelling evidence to show why you are a dumb dickhead, please feel free to share.
                              RIDE TO LIVE, LIVE TO RIDE
                              LET `EM ROLL ONE MORE TIME

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