The Great Mystery Of Rock -- Why No Live DLR DVD or Video?

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  • VHscraps
    Veteran
    • Jul 2009
    • 1874

    #91
    Originally posted by FORD
    Dennis Dragon is the brother of Daryl "the Captain" Dragon (of Captain & Tennille fame) and he's also a founding member of the Surf Punks.

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    That's him on the drums.

    Though this is the first I've heard of him recording any VH demos. The only demos I ever heard of were the Cherokee studios demo from 74 (when Mark Stone was still on bass), the Gene Simmons demo, and the WB demo. If there are any others in the vaults of 5150 or Dennis Dragon's place, they certainly haven't been circulated.

    Yeah - I knew about the Surf Punks. He also toured as drummer with the Beach Boys on occasion.

    From my intrepid, but so far fruitless researches, I have gathered that VH cut demos at his studio in '77. Donn Landee produced / engineered an album by Dragon's band ... The Dragons in '68. More below:

    Dragons Discovered In A Sea For Yourself!

    IF they did cut demos in Malibu, it could be the 20-odd tracks they supposedly laid down in a day just after being signed by WB (they just played their stage repertoire live), and before they went into Sunset Sound.

    Donn Landee is doing photography these days:

    Photographs by Donn Landee

    You only see Landee's name on the top of the browser (it's not on the page). I reckon it's the same Donn Landee, coz the contact for that company is Skip Gillette - ex-drummer with Ronnie Montrose's first incarnation of Gamma (79-80).
    THINK LIKE THE WAVES

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    • Terry
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Jan 2004
      • 12138

      #92
      Originally posted by dave_is_vh
      I would kill for good quality copies of these shows. Does anyone know where I could get a copy?
      Have never seen either of those, either.

      Plenty of good audio boots of the 1984 tour, but video-wise all I've ever seen is Montreal, the Donnington clip, the snippets in the Panama video and that Lost Weekend With Van Halen segment.
      Scramby eggs and bacon.

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      • dave_is_vh
        Sniper
        • Apr 2004
        • 920

        #93
        Originally posted by FORD
        If WB filmed both the Largo shows in 84, then there's no excuse not to put out a DVD from at least that show.

        The reason it didn't come out at the time was obvious enough. Such a project would logically have been in production in the first half of 1985 (as the band was still touring through most of 1984, and then Dave did the Crazy From The Heat EP).

        Of course then the band broke up. And Eddie probably wasn't about to release anything with David Lee Roth on it, at that point.

        Actually this explains why WB was so eager to put a Van Hagar video on the market from their first tour.... because they got "cheated" out of their original video release and had to settle for &
        I think you are on to something. And at this point Ed and WB are too lazy to care.
        "Bumper sticker on my rocket's ass: go home, the earth is full." DLR

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        • Panamark
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Jan 2004
          • 17161

          #94
          I've posted this before, probably multiple times.
          Now this could be too many beers and years under
          the bridge. *BUT* !
          I remember as a teenager watching a music show in
          Australia on Saturday morning, "Sounds Unlimiited"
          showing over an hour of Van Halen footage, pro
          shot live... NO way was it the US festival as they
          were on the money bigtime... Part of me thinks it
          was the Oakland show with the missing songs we
          suspect exist. Definately remember them playing
          "Hear about it Later" I watched at least 6,7-10 songs.
          RWTD was in there, Unchained.. Romeo Delight
          Jamies Cryin, I think even "Feel your love tonight"
          It was really great the band were on fire....
          I remember it as it totally converted me into this
          CVH obsessed dude I am today.

          How and why we (Oz) got to see this ??????
          I guess thats a pretty good question.

          But I have absolutely no doubts that there is at least
          one really good pro shot and pro recorded complete
          concert out there....

          If I had to guess, 82-83 ?? (when they showed this)
          Last edited by Panamark; 02-12-2010, 03:16 AM.
          BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
          Love ya Mary Frances!

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          • dave_is_vh
            Sniper
            • Apr 2004
            • 920

            #95
            I don't think they played Hear About It Later on the Diver Down tour.
            "Bumper sticker on my rocket's ass: go home, the earth is full." DLR

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            • Diamondjimi
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • May 2004
              • 12086

              #96
              That is correct...

              Fair Warning is the only tour they played it on.
              Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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              • dave_is_vh
                Sniper
                • Apr 2004
                • 920

                #97
                They better play Hear About It Later on the upcoming Van Halen IV Tour. Damnit. Girl Gone Bad too for that matter.
                "Bumper sticker on my rocket's ass: go home, the earth is full." DLR

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49567

                  #98
                  Originally posted by FORD
                  I'm sure there's at least one full pro shot show from 1979, and another from 1981 (Oakland) in the can. I don't buy the myth that they only filmed three songs from each of those shows.

                  Now as to who owns that footage or where exactly the master copy is, I wouldn't pretend to know the answer.
                  Of course the US Fest was filmed. I've also read rumors here that several shows were filmed in 1984, or at least there were cameras present....

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                  • rustoffa
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 8963

                    #99
                    Licensing laws mixed with egomaniacal band members? Just a guess.

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                    • Panamark
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 17161

                      Originally posted by rustoffa
                      Licensing laws mixed with egomaniacal band members? Just a guess.
                      This thread needs an answer, why ??
                      Rustoffa posted.....

                      I miss his conceptual approach that does not hold rigidly to a single paradigm
                      or set of assumptions, but instead draws upon multiple theories, styles, or ideas
                      to gain complementary insights into a subject, or applies different theories in particular cases.

                      Onya Russ !! Originals still Kickin !
                      BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                      Love ya Mary Frances!

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                      • chefcraig
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 12172

                        Originally posted by Panamark
                        This thread needs an answer, why ??
                        Rustoffa posted.....

                        I miss his conceptual approach that does not hold rigidly to a single paradigm
                        or set of assumptions, but instead draws upon multiple theories, styles, or ideas
                        to gain complementary insights into a subject, or applies different theories in particular cases.
                        Broke into standin's medicine cabinet, eh?









                        “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                        ― Stephen Hawking

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                        • Panamark
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 17161

                          Originally posted by chefcraig
                          Broke into standin's medicine cabinet, eh?

                          LOL !

                          Ok... well yes, but I went with the red pill ???
                          Just wanted Russ to feel home...
                          Maybe it was ecstacy ??

                          I need a drink.
                          BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                          Love ya Mary Frances!

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                          • chefcraig
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 12172

                            Originally posted by Panamark
                            LOL !

                            Ok... well yes, but I went with the red pill ???
                            Just wanted Russ to feel home...
                            Maybe it was ecstacy ??

                            I need a drink.
                            Pour some creme de menth. The combination will make you feel all Christmas-like inside.









                            “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                            ― Stephen Hawking

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                            • Panamark
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 17161

                              I have Baileys Irish Cream ?? Will that cancel out the dictionary type
                              posts ?? I have had creme de month before, very nice, minty from
                              memory...... Baileys could be a good sub
                              BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                              Love ya Mary Frances!

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                              • chefcraig
                                DIAMOND STATUS
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 12172

                                Originally posted by Panamark
                                I have Baileys Irish Cream ?? Will that cancel out the dictionary type
                                posts ?? Baileys could be a good sub
                                Yes. Combined with the red pill, not only will it end the odd posting, it will also obliterate your short term memory.









                                “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                                ― Stephen Hawking

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