A msg to ed that he will hear?

[SNIPER]

This Thread Is Gay.

Back Into The Sheep Pen SNIPER.:D

Sweet! Back to the sheep pen I will go proudly, hold my head high, and stand tall! I think every VH fan is in a sheep pen of some sort grazing for the next feed/cd ......But where does this sheep pen you speak of begin and real life end?

[sonrisa salvaje]

Aw shit. I haven't thought about those in forever. So fucking cool & cheesy those were. Throw a dart & pop any balloon, choose a mirror. It was like the fair consolation prize when you sucked at all the other games.

The fair mirrors with your favorite album covers - what a trip. The t-shirts were so bad that they would fit when you left the fair but after the first time you washed them they came up to your belly button and the logo would be sideways. Come to think of it, the shirts they sold at the concerts in the 80's may have only been slightly better.

[kwame k]

The fair mirrors with your favorite album covers - what a trip. The t-shirts were so bad that they would fit when you left the fair but after the first time you washed them they came up to your belly button and the logo would be sideways. Come to think of it, the shirts they sold at the concerts in the 80's may have only been slightly better.

No doubt........all of my Tees from back then were destroyed after the 2nd or 3rd time through the washer!

Who here hasn't snorted coke or rolled a joint off a good Fair Mirror

[Diamondjimi]

No doubt........all of my Tees from back then were destroyed after the 2nd or 3rd time through the washer!

Who here hasn't snorted coke or rolled a joint off a good Fair Mirror

I still have a pair of VH carnival mirrors. The stories they could tell....

[sonrisa salvaje]

I still have a pair of VH carnival mirrors. The stories they could tell....

Nice. I always stuck to album covers myself. My Beatles Sgt Peppers and VH 1984 probably still have some kind of residue on them. Maybe green, maybe white.

[ZahZoo]

This thread finally shifted to a message that might catch Ed's attention... well maybe not he probably used gold & platnium record plaques instead of cheap fair mirrors for his rails...

[PETE'S BROTHER]

what? :sniff: coke?

[bueno bob]

The problem is, Ed already has the message. He got it loud and clear back in 1998-1999 and he got it again in 2004. For starters, you don't tease a classic Van Halen reunion like they all did in 1996 and expect that a third lead singer in a band like Van Halen is going to go over well. Based on most of the interviews prior to the release of VH III, Ed sounded like a man who'd convinced himself that he was the real star of the band and basically everybody else was a bit player in his success, not unlike the producers of the Dukes of Hazzard when they had themselves convinced that the General Lee was the real star of the show and Bo and Luke were just background noise.

It wasn't true for them, nor was it true for Eddie. Once the novelty of a new lead singer had worn off (as soon as radio stations started playing Extreme lyrics over Van Halen music and people went "Uh yeah, this is going to suck"), the album tanked (and yeah, it tanked pretty quickly) and the tour failed, Ed got the message loud and clear that the notion of him running Van Halen exclusively was just a bad idea.

Problem is, he was Eddie Van Halen and up til then, pretty much everybody had loved either one version of his band or the other (or both). He'd been lauded on by critics and guitar players since 1978 and everybody had sang his praises for as long as he could remember, even with the decline of rock music and the advent of grunge and alternative. Oh sure, there'd been negative reviews and such, but when you're playing in front of a multitude of thousands every night it's kinda hard to treat those seriously. When you're golden, you know it. And Eddie was golden, for many years. Rock royalty.

But, of course, they teased Roth in 1996 and people REALLY got excited...forgot, in fact, that 1986-1995 had ever happened. Hagar just didn't mean anything anymore. That was obvious. Problem is, Ed figured that if Hagar was suddenly that expendable, well, the rest of the band must be, too. And Van Halen III showed him just how right he was on THAT note.

Failed album...failed tour...failed lead vocalist experimentation...you think about it - everything Ed had touched since 1978 turned to gold and all of a sudden you've got three career failures back to back inside of two years. Obviously it scared the shit out of him. 2004 was simply a desperation move on the part of Alex and Mike and it was obvious to me that Ed never had his heart into that. It's also been painfully obvious to me that Ed did not have his heart in the latest reunion with Roth, either, and why? The answer seems obvious - he's terrified of fan rejection and it's turned his mindset into "it's better to do nothing then to do something and fail at it".

And yeah, prior to the release (and after the release) of Van Halen III, there WAS in fact a big fan uprising and sentiment of "What the fuck is this? We made this band and NOW we'll break them" too. The only difference is that back then the fanbase still kinda cared about this band. After fourteen years of a steady decline in interest, Diaper, who are you going to convince to care anymore whether or not Van Halen EVER does anything again? Who? Even here I think most of us realize that ship has sailed and whether or not it ever comes back to port is anybody's guess, so WHO?

I mean, whatever...good luck with your "Van Halen crusade" I guess. If you've managed to convince yourself that you're the flagship for millions and millions of disenfranchised Van Halen fans and you're the guiding light in the darkness, go ahead with your boycott and see how much you influence. Myself, I'm going to go out and play because I haven't bought album, poster, t shirt, guitar equipment, ticket or otherwise since 1996 GLADLY and that's made absolutely ZERO impact on Ed's mindset. I find myself doubting that, given Van Halen's highly diminished position since 1996, Ed's going to notice now.

[ZahZoo]

An awakening... Welcome back Bob!!