Any post-1984 Classic Van Halen???

[guwapo_rocker]

Originally posted by Cathedral
If i had a DVD burner i'd hook you up. I'll chat with a friend and see if they can burn a couple copies for me.

Thanks much.

[Terry]

Roth has said Van Hagar used the tapes classic Halen had been working on for the follow up to 1984 as their starting point for what eventually became 5150.

Ed has said Dave had heard several of the tunes on 5150 before he left the band.

Who knows if they ever got around to recording demos for any of that stuff, and if Roth layed any guide tracks down?

Can't say I'd be that interested in hearing Dave singing over the 5150 tracks, even if that were the case/such demos existed. About the only material that holds my interest on 5150 is the title tracks intro and bridge guitar parts.

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by Panamark
Yeah thats what I meant.. I think theres many tunes on 5150 that were going to be on the next real Van Halen album. Obviously not the entire album. Can anyone in their right mind picture Dave agreeing to sing Dreams ??

But who knows, perhaps there is the Dave version of Summer Nights in the vault somewhere. Perhaps theres shit there that we have no idea about ?? Ed might be sitting on a friggin goldmine...

You know, I've always felt that Summer Nights was such a Dave type of Van Halen song... ...hmmmm. Makes ya think, don't it?

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by FORD
How many pro shot concerts have to exist out there. They released concert vids from Van HALEN II, so there has to be a whole show there. Oakland 81 is of course, legendary. The US Fest recorded officially for Showtime cable network (and at least 3 audio tracks from that one "remixed" and released to radio a few weeks after the show. And as far as unreleased audio goes, Legend has it that there was to be a Van HALEN live album released in 1982, but WB pulled the plug on the idea. It's possible that the Oakland 81 material could have been the source for that planned album, but it's not common for official live albums to come from just one show, so it's likely that other 81 shows were also recorded.

Wonder how far that album got before they axed it? Could there be a master tape in a WB vault somewhere?

(ATTN ANY LURKING WB EMPLOYEES. LEAK THAT BITCH AND PUT IT UP OVER AT STG!!)

What is STG?

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by Cathedral
Right Now, I am watching the entire Sao Paulo, Brazil show on DVD.

This show alone blows the living shit out of any Van Hagar shows, content wise.

Damn, these were the fucking days in Van History, baby...

I would be eternally grateful for a copy of that as well.... ....pretty please!!

[L.S.D.]

Originally posted by Keeyth
You know, I've always felt that Summer Nights was such a Dave type of Van Halen song... ...hmmmm. Makes ya think, don't it?

Not really, Summer Nights is a classic Van Halen song. Youll disagree but its a great oldie that is great in the summertime.

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
Not really, Summer Nights is a classic Van Halen song. Youll disagree but its a great oldie that is great in the summertime.

Shut up Beavis! It would have ROCKED 10 times more if Dave had sung it... ...and there's nothing better in the summertime than Dave-era VH!

[Cathedral]

The music on 5150 wasn't bad for the most part. The lyrics sucked donkey dick and so did the voice conveying them.

Someone said before that Dave had the VH road show on the EEAS Tour, that was true.
But 5150, although had the dwindeling remnants of the Mighty Van Halen, was a scaled down, or should i say "watered down" version of the huge giant it was while Dave was in the band.

They lost more in the transfer than any of them will ever admit to the point Van Hagar music was nothing more than mediocre at best.

If you want to support Classic VH, buy the first 6 albums again and again. Spammy has no royalty contract for those and it would send yet another wasted message to Edward and his drones.

It may even make Spammy shut his fucking yap over who sold more records as well.

[Big Troubles]

Dave has already stated that Summer Nights was essentially laid out before he left. Ed has stated that Good Enough & Best of Both Worlds were Dave tunes before he left as well. Thats 3 at least that we know of that dave helped write.

[L.S.D.]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
Dave has already stated that Summer Nights was essentially laid out before he left. Ed has stated that Good Enough & Best of Both Worlds were Dave tunes before he left as well. Thats 3 at least that we know of that dave helped write.

Wrong, Best of Both Worlds was written entirely by Van Hagar. The 3 that were done or had parts together were Dreams, Good Enough, and Summer Nights.

[Terry]

Have to disagree, Cathedral.

Outside of the title track, find little of musical interest on 5150, even with lyrics and vocals to one side.

Dreams is no better than something you'd hear in an elevator or on a visit to the dentist.

Get Up is rehashed Hot For Teacher.

Good Enough, from start to finish, sounds like a second rate EVH clone trying to come up with an original song.........

..........bah, to heck with it. Can't be bothered to do a track-by-track dissertation of it.

Just lazy performances, electronic drums that sounded awful even at the time, when they were all the rage. Crisp production values of previous records reduced to a mid-tone slush and synthesized pop keyboards abound.

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
Wrong, Best of Both Worlds was written entirely by Van Hagar. The 3 that were done or had parts together were Dreams, Good Enough, and Summer Nights.

Dreams...? Yeah? Sheesh...Well I believe you since I wasn't positive on Best of Both Worlds. Thanks for the correction.

[phattyboombatty]

Check out my post at DDLR Here . I've been wanting to get some attention on this. Below is a list I compiled from the old VH website when they had a "Back List" of cool shit.


Always wanted to see someone release the tracks that Van Halen had in the works during 1984. These songs would have been the "1984" leftovers or the "5150" album with David Lee Roth.

Here's the list of songs I compiled from the old Van halen website. Pretty cool shit!

5150 Special
Leftover track from the 1984 sessions.

Any Time, Any Place
A leftover track from the 1984 sessions.

Anything To Make It Right
Leftover synthesizer tune from the 1984 sessions.

Baritone Slide
Leftover track from the 1984 sessions.

Big Trouble
Originally recorded in 1977 for the band's 25-song Warner Bros. demo tape, then re-recorded during the Diver Down sessions. This song was intended for Diver Down, and later, 1984; but appeared on neither.

Forget 1
Leftover track from the 1984 sessions.

Lie To You
Leftover track from the 1984 sessions.

Ripley
Leftover song from the 1984 sessions. It was written on a Ripley Guitar, designed by Steve Ripley. The guitar itself is quite unique due to the fact that each string can be sent to different sides of the speaker through the use of its individual string pan pots.

[DLR_EngineRoom]

Originally posted by EbDawson
Well I wouldn't hold my breath. Ed has to all sorts of great shit in his vaults, demos, concert videos etc. of Dave stuff. He seems perfectly OK with letting the stuff gather dust and rot away. Dave said in a fairly recent interview that there's lots of stuff Ed could release if he wanted to. He would just rather be an asshole I guess. Where's Gene Simmons when you need him?

haha exactly...it's scary to think of all the stuff EVH could release....and what does EVH do instead? He releases Hagar's live versions of Roth classics on their next Gr8est Hits!

Gene, oh great tongued bat lizard.....breathe fire and make Sammy go POOF!

[phattyboombatty]

Also Here's a Guitar World excerpt...

Check this out from GW, September 1986 by Steve Rosen....

VH: Oh yeah. And Noel Monk (the manager) was his goddamn puppet - did everything he wanted. And that's partly why Al and I wanted to change; we wanted a manager who managed the band - not someone who did only what one person said.


GW: Had you left during Fair Warning, it would have been...


VH: ...different, sure. Well, let's put it this way: The end result is, I'm very happy now. Whatever it took to get where I am now, I'm very happy.


GW: Was 'Dreams' played on the MIDIed piano?


VH: Yeah, I think so. We never even got to work with Dave on that; we rehearsed maybe for a total of a week within a month's time.


GW: So he had heard some of the new material?


VH: Oh yeah. I had 'Good Enough' and 'Summer Nights' and we'd begun work on 'Dreams.'


GW: It appears from 5150 that you writing has moved in new directions.


VH: It's constantly changing I guess. I don't really know where inspiration comes from - or anything comes from.

You can go to www.webarchive.org, type in www.slawterhouse.com, and go thru the Wayback machine to the old SH site. It has these articles up there.