Songwriting credits on the new album

[Luke D]

With the inclusion of old material, does Mike get his name on those songs? Would EVH be upset about that?

[TJMKID]

With the inclusion of old material, does Mike get his name on those songs? Would EVH be upset about that?

Very interesting question!

Exactly when does a band member acquire publishing credit? When Mike left Snake in 1974 and joined Mammoth --- doesn't he get his share of publishing royalties effective at that date even though the band wasnt even signed to a label yet ??

My gut tells me that if Sobolewski has really good attorney(s) ---- he's gonna make a shitload of cash from this new VH album + tour

[Vinnie Velvet]

Mike aint got nothing on any unpublished/unrecorded material.

The new tunes will be credited to just Dave, Ed and Al - Wolfie is doubtful.

[SilvioDante]

I posted on the Tattoo review thread, my iTunes downloaded version of the song has the writing credits for Tattoo as:

Van Halen & David Lee Roth

I am curious if the older tunes were technically published. They are only available on bootlegs, obviously. If Tattoo is the Down in Flames remake everyone is saying it is, Mikey should be in writing credits for that, right?

[1971Quarter]

Michael Anthony's gonna get as many royalties from the new album as I am ...

[Vinnie Velvet]

I posted on the Tattoo review thread, my iTunes downloaded version of the song has the writing credits for Tattoo as:

Van Halen & David Lee Roth

I am curious if the older tunes were technically published. They are only available on bootlegs, obviously. If Tattoo is the Down in Flames remake everyone is saying it is, Mikey should be in writing credits for that, right?

Incorrect.

Down in Flames was never recorded and published on an album.

Thus, Mike will not receive any credit towards it.

[vandeleur]

Didnt mike sign everything away in 2004 ?

[chi-town324]

yea don't think he would get shit...im sure the current band as discussed this with their attorneys

[SilvioDante]

Incorrect.

Down in Flames was never recorded and published on an album.

Thus, Mike will not receive any credit towards it.

That was my point, if he gets no writing credits on Tattoo because it was never recorded or published, Mikey wouldn't get a writing credit on Bullethead or She's the Woman, right?

[academic punk]

A song doesn't need to be formally released to be published. You can be bought out subsequently, but that's there own problem.

Both dave and eddie have said in the past that mike contributed nothing to the creative process, eddie even told mike exactly what to play. if that is true, mike shouldnt really get too upset if he doesnt see any money from this.

[chefcraig]

Both dave and eddie have said in the past that mike contributed nothing to the creative process, eddie even told mike exactly what to play. if that is true, mike shouldnt really get too upset if he doesnt see any money from this.

Hell, for the three tunes Mike is credited with having a hand in on those two Chickenfeed albums, he should be required to pay anyone unfortunate enough to hear them.

[Jagermeister]

Let me be the first to say. WHO GIVES A FUCK?

[TJMKID]

Incorrect.

Down in Flames was never recorded and published on an album.

Thus, Mike will not receive any credit towards it.

So I can record a song with my own band called "Down in Flames" and it sounds exactly note-for-note like Van Halen's unpublished song "Down in Flames" and then sell it on iTunes and make money from it ??

If that's true --- I got a lot of good song ideas for my band to record (just steal them off YouTube) --- we gonna be rich!

[vandeleur]

So I can record a song with my own band called "Down in Flames" and it sounds exactly note-for-note like Van Halen's unpublished song "Down in Flames" and then sell it on iTunes and make money from it ??

If that's true --- I got a lot of good song ideas for my band to record (just steal them off YouTube) --- we gonna be rich!

They will have publishing rights on all of those songs which means they are theirs . unless you wanna to pay them to record them.

[clarathecarrot]

Yes, you are correct because Down In Flames goes.. ..dit de deet de de deetly leet deet

and Tattoo goes .................................................. ..dit deeeeet deet de de deetly leet deet.