So, is it too soon to say SEVEN PACK ??

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  • sadaist
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jul 2004
    • 11625
    #46
    Originally posted by kwame k
    ....we'll have another album and tour, at the very least!

    I'm holding you to that.
    “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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      • kwame k
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Feb 2008
        • 11302
        #47
        Originally posted by sadaist
        I'm holding you to that.
        My word is my bond
        Originally posted by vandeleur
        E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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          • smorgdonkey
            Roadie
            • Jul 2004
            • 119
            #48
            I think that a few yuears from now you people will be back pedalling a bit on some of this. The '96 tunes were pretty energetic and Dave's voice was still pretty strong. His voice is a mere shadow now (though still loaded with character). There is much wear and tear on those vocal cords. I think a lot of Dave's chirps and such over the years were inhalation chirps (made by inhaling air via the mouth rapidly and channeling it through the vocal cords) which is very damaging. Whispering is also known to be very bad for the voice but Dave never did much of that. I think a lot of the damage is irreversible and he often is going for things that he could hit in key before but no longer can.

            The fact is that Ed really made a bad decision in 1996.

            I've been a Van Halen fan for a long time and would love to have to eat crow and say that the record is great but so far, from what I hear it is not. It is mediocre from what I have heard so far.
            Last edited by smorgdonkey; 01-28-2012, 08:47 PM.

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              • kwame k
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Feb 2008
                • 11302
                #49
                Jesus....

                How many singers in their 50's sound like they did in their 20's or 30's?
                Originally posted by vandeleur
                E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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                  • guwapo_rocker
                    Sniper
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 993
                    #50
                    Originally posted by smorgdonkey
                    I think that a few yuears from now you people will be back pedalling a bit on some of this. The '96 tunes were pretty energetic and Dave's voice was still pretty strong. His voice is a mere shadow now (though still loaded with character). There is much wear and tear on those vocal cords. I think a lot of Dave's chirps and such over the years were inhalation chirps (made by inhaling air via the mouth rapidly and channeling it through the vocal cords) which is very damaging. Whispering is also known to be very bad for the voice but Dave never did much of that. I think a lot of the damage is irreversible and he often is going for things that he could hit in key before but no longer can.

                    The fact is that Ed really made a bad decision in 1996.

                    I've been a Van Halen fan for a long time and would love to have to eat crow and say that the record is great but so far, from what I hear it is not. It is mediocre from what I have heard so far.
                    I think he sounds better now than he did on MWM or CGTSNM a decade an a half ago.
                    WE'RE ON A MISSION FROM ROTH.

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                      • kwame k
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 11302
                        #51
                        Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
                        I think he sounds better now than he did on MWM or CGTSNM a decade an a half ago.
                        Yep,
                        Originally posted by vandeleur
                        E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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                          • SNIPER
                            Crazy Ass Mofo
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 2625
                            #52
                            Originally posted by smorgdonkey
                            I think that a few yuears from now you people will be back pedalling a bit on some of this. The '96 tunes were pretty energetic and Dave's voice was still pretty strong. His voice is a mere shadow now (though still loaded with character). There is much wear and tear on those vocal cords. I think a lot of Dave's chirps and such over the years were inhalation chirps (made by inhaling air via the mouth rapidly and channeling it through the vocal cords) which is very damaging. Whispering is also known to be very bad for the voice but Dave never did much of that. I think a lot of the damage is irreversible and he often is going for things that he could hit in key before but no longer can.

                            The fact is that Ed really made a bad decision in 1996.

                            I've been a Van Halen fan for a long time and would love to have to eat crow and say that the record is great but so far, from what I hear it is not. It is mediocre from what I have heard so far.
                            So how do you like your crow cooked?

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                              • kwame k
                                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 11302
                                #53
                                Originally posted by vandeleur
                                E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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                                  • hambon4lif
                                    Crazy Ass Mofo
                                    • Jun 2004
                                    • 2810
                                    #54
                                    Originally posted by fourthcoming
                                    So far so good with the new tunes....they all sound killer....and some of them we have already been familiar with for years so we already know they are solid. Let's just relax a bit with the whole 7 pack conversation. CVH 1978-1984 was a moment in time that will never be re-captured again. We should just let that be.....let it be glorious and amazing because it was. This is a new era for this band and that's a good thing. There is no doubt a classic VH feel to it still but it's different, heavy and kick ass as always. I don't really know just how to put it into words. Does this album really have to be part of a "7pack"? Let's leave it alone and let it kick ass on it's own. If this was all 4 members of the CVH era maybe you can say 7 pack....and that's not a knock on Wolf at all cuz I happen to think he can play his ass off. It's the dawn of a new day, a new era for the Mighty Van Halen....let's just leave it at that for now. Maybe over time we can include this new album with the classic 6 pack but for now just enjoy the piss out of it.
                                    Halle-fuckin-lujah!!!

                                    My thoughts exactly!!

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                                      • Warham
                                        DIAMOND STATUS
                                        • Mar 2004
                                        • 14589
                                        #55
                                        I'm a big fan of the 1996 stuff as well. "Me Wise Magic" melted my brain when I heard it, especially after all those years of Hagar. That chorus of that song was just fucking amazing. If they had went on tour then, they would have put the 2007-2008 tour to shame $$$-wise. Like others have said, a golden opportunity was blown. Dave's voice may have been better then, it's hard to tell. Eddie was still drunker than a skunk though, so it would have self-destructed sooner or later.

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                                          • POJO_Risin
                                            Roth Army Caesar
                                            • Mar 2003
                                            • 40648
                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Warham
                                            I'm a big fan of the 1996 stuff as well. "Me Wise Magic" melted my brain when I heard it, especially after all those years of Hagar. That chorus of that song was just fucking amazing. If they had went on tour then, they would have put the 2007-2008 tour to shame $$$-wise. Like others have said, a golden opportunity was blown. Dave's voice may have been better then, it's hard to tell. Eddie was still drunker than a skunk though, so it would have self-destructed sooner or later.
                                            Warham...you son of a bitch!!!

                                            Good to fucking see you...welcome back...
                                            "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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                                              • POJO_Risin
                                                Roth Army Caesar
                                                • Mar 2003
                                                • 40648
                                                #57
                                                I 100% agree with you about the 96 tunes...

                                                I love the electric few that bash on those two songs with their poindexter voices...

                                                "Um, yes, those songs just weren't up to par..."

                                                Makes me laugh...

                                                I don't fucking care who wrote it, why it was written, when it was written, and if Elmo from Sesame Street produced it...

                                                Dave can turn shit into pure fucking gold...and you throw spED into the mix...and visions of fucking sugarpussy dances in my head...
                                                "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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                                                  • Warham
                                                    DIAMOND STATUS
                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                    • 14589
                                                    #58
                                                    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
                                                    Warham...you son of a bitch!!!

                                                    Good to fucking see you...welcome back...
                                                    POJO...I love ya man!

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                                                      • POJO_Risin
                                                        Roth Army Caesar
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 40648
                                                        #59
                                                        Originally posted by Warham
                                                        POJO...I love ya man!
                                                        (as I make Warham a moderator again without his permission...then force him for years to remain a moderator, because IT'S HIS DAMN LOT IN LIFE!!!)

                                                        LOL....seriously...this place wasn't the same without you...
                                                        "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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                                                          • Warham
                                                            DIAMOND STATUS
                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                            • 14589
                                                            #60
                                                            Originally posted by POJO_Risin
                                                            (as I make Warham a moderator again without his permission...then force him for years to remain a moderator, because IT'S HIS DAMN LOT IN LIFE!!!)

                                                            LOL....seriously...this place wasn't the same without you...
                                                            LMAO! I think I said something similar in the Front Line when I came back.

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