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  • ZahZoo
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Jan 2004
    • 9208

    #31
    Originally posted by george
    he wears those scarves to warm his neck/throat... he's gotta do everything he can to keep shit warm and ready to perform. I imagine the cold air fucks that up. I wouldn't be surprised if his scarves had Vicks vapo whatever all over them to clear him out. He coughs up a lot of lung butter during each set... you can see it if you pay attention.
    While all that sounds reasonable... it also paints a picture of an aged guy so fragile that some cold air is crippling him. If that's the case... Dave better drop the walker jokes and get one out on stage. Can't play the tough old guy card and get brought down by a gust of air. Man up...
    "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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    • Fairwrning
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jan 2004
      • 11371

      #32
      Originally posted by ZahZoo
      While all that sounds reasonable... it also paints a picture of an aged guy so fragile that some cold air is crippling him. If that's the case... Dave better drop the walker jokes and get one out on stage. Can't play the tough old guy card and get brought down by a gust of air. Man up...

      hhmmm..lets hope he doesnt go this route..he certainly seems to emulate him at times..

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      • BenJammin
        Foot Soldier
        • Feb 2004
        • 533

        #33
        Elvis's voice was as strong as ever to the end. Two of my fave youtubes is him doing My Way and Unchained Melody 3 months before he died. I think that pic above was from the same concert.
        Last edited by BenJammin; 05-13-2012, 12:37 PM.
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        • Fairwrning
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jan 2004
          • 11371

          #34
          Im just meaning the heavy clothes and stage manner...age is a bitch

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          • BenJammin
            Foot Soldier
            • Feb 2004
            • 533

            #35
            Plus the fact he didn't even make it to his fifties (so Dave has had more time to be ravaged by various factors )
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            • SparkieD
              Veteran
              • Sep 2006
              • 1772

              #36
              Originally posted by wolfsbane
              Now, he doesn't move
              Where the Hell have you been? The only kind of moving he didn't do when I saw them three weeks ago were the spread-eagle leaps off the drum riser(and you need to put the damn pipe away if you expect that), and believe me, he more than made up for the lack of those by doing lots of roundhouse kicks, etc. and he exhibited that he is still a fantastic martial artist. I sure as Hell don't know of many other 57 y/o guys who can manage to do much more than get the fuck up off the couch. Dave was on his A game 1000%!

              As for the blowers, I do think there is a compromise that will be worked out. I can relate to his woes. I ain't a singer or a smoker, but cold A/C affects my upper respiratory system. He HAS to be able to perform or else you fuckers wouldn't shut up then either.
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              Three words. WE WERE THERE.

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              • Angel
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Jan 2004
                • 7481

                #37
                You can't deny that Dave's aged a lot since we 07/08. All that shit we do when we're young catches up with us eventually.

                I think it's more than just the vocals when it comes to the AC. I noticed the nights of the blower rants his movement itself was stiff and jerky. To be completely honest, there have been times I've wondered about Dave's overall health.

                They have to find a happy medium. Eventually someone in the audience is going to have a fucking heart attack!!
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                • binnie
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • May 2006
                  • 19145

                  #38
                  The man is pushing 60 - we have to be realistic, he's only human.

                  To my mind Dave should focus on the vocals rather than the stage show - less screaming/straining and more hitting the melody.

                  That being said, from the youtubes it's clear that he's bringing the party vibe.
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                  • TJMKID
                    Veteran
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 1533

                    #39
                    Looks more like Sambo these days with the pudgy jowls and vacant stare ---- soon to be poisoned to death by a banana split




                    Originally posted by Fairwrning
                    hhmmm..lets hope he doesnt go this route..he certainly seems to emulate him at times..

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                    • Fairwrning
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 11371

                      #40
                      I dont see Dave getting fat.....Ed, however.....

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                      • DavidLeeNatra
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10715

                        #41
                        Dave was ill in the beginning of the tour...it's obvious...you can hear it if you compare the tubes from the early shows and now!
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                        • Yount
                          Commando
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 1099

                          #42
                          Dave should get 14 hot bikini models out in front of the stage with hair dryers facing towards him. Aesthetically pleasing and it should aid his glorious pipes.

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                          • ZahZoo
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 9208

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Angel
                            You can't deny that Dave's aged a lot since we 07/08. All that shit we do when we're young catches up with us eventually.

                            I think it's more than just the vocals when it comes to the AC. I noticed the nights of the blower rants his movement itself was stiff and jerky. To be completely honest, there have been times I've wondered about Dave's overall health.

                            They have to find a happy medium. Eventually someone in the audience is going to have a fucking heart attack!!
                            Sure there's the age element... but we're not talking extremes. With the AC/blowers going it's in a range in the 70's around the stage area. It's not like they are cooling it down into the 30's, 40's, 50's or even 60's. Then when the lights and big screen are going it's still pretty darn warm on stage.

                            With the cooling systems off from what I've heard from people at two recent shows... the temps quickly rose well into the 90's and they were sweating sitting or standing still. That can't be healthy for the fans and especially for the band under the lights and in proximity of that huge TV screen.

                            Sure AC can irritate a singer's voice to a certain extent... but it appears that something more is going on.
                            "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32942

                              #44
                              Originally posted by ZahZoo
                              I question what exactly is wrong with Dave that this is such a huge issue??

                              The man has toured for 34 years in all kinds of conditions and now he can't perform with the AC on in the summer?

                              Seriously as summer temps keep rising the venues won't be able shut down the AC for their performances. In short order temperatures will become high enough to where it becomes a liability for the safety of the fans... not mention the impact on the facility and the gear on stage.

                              This isn't an issue of poorly managed climate control... it's one man and what the fuck is his physical issue?

                              Somebody get Dave a Doctor!!
                              All the other entertainers who sing for a living seem to have no problem with it. Dave seems picky. I used to think all his yelling at the crew was an act but maybe it's not. Stop acting like a diva Dave. Are you in Van Halen or are you in Journey?
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                              • Angel
                                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 7481

                                #45
                                Originally posted by ZahZoo
                                Sure AC can irritate a singer's voice to a certain extent... but it appears that something more is going on.
                                Okay, I've discussed this privately with one member...looks like it's okay to discuss publicly now, as obviously I'm not the only one thinking there's something more going on...

                                I've been watching Dave's body movements very closely during various video's. My eyes are usually drawn to his hands. You may notice that fairly often his index finger is rubbing his thumb, as if he is rolling a pill between his thumb and finger. I can't remember which vid, but one of the ones they released he notices it and tries to hide his left hand.

                                To me, this looks like a symptom of Parkinson's, known as pill-rolling. The AC issue fits this theory. My ex had Parkinson's, and if he caught a sudden chill, he would get symptomatic. He also has to clear his throat a lot...

                                Now, this is just arm-chair theorizing...don't come down on me for it...just putting my theory out there. Hell, if I'm right, it would almost be worth it for them to go public. The critics reviews would be a lot different...

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