Van Halen 'Live...Right Here, Right Now' happened to block Dave.

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  • binnie
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    • May 2006
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    Van Halen 'Live...Right Here, Right Now' happened to block Dave.

    1993 VAN HALEN Live Album Happened To Block DAVID LEE ROTH-Era Hits Collection

    February 26, 2014 7 Comments
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    The Pulse Of Radio reportst that VAN HALEN's 1993 concert collection "Live: Right Here, Right Now" was released by the band in an effort to block a David Lee Roth/VAN HALEN compilation, according to sources at Van Halen News Desk. At the time of VAN HALEN's third album with Sammy Hagar — 1991's "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" — Roth was allegedly threatening to sue his and the band's record label, Warner Brothers, if they didn't release an album entitled "Van Halen: Greatest Hits, Part 1", spotlighting not only his tenure in the band, but his solo hits as well — including, "Just A Gigolo", "California Girls", "Just Like Paradise" and "Going Crazy".

    VAN HALEN's then-manager Ed Leffler went to the label and explained that a compilation featuring Roth tunes would derail all the momentum the Sammy Hagar-fronted lineup had achieved since 1986. The label pitched the idea of Hagar re-recording Roth-era classics with the band — which Leffler explained would only happen in the context of a live album. In the end, VAN HALEN only included four Roth-era tracks on the concert set — "Ain't Talking' 'Bout Love", "Panama", "You Really Got Me" and "Jump" — but it was enough to derail plans for the VAN HALEN/David Lee Roth hits compilation.

    Sammy Hagar and David Lee Roth now enjoy an uneasy truce following their 2002 joint tour. Hagar recalled to The Pulse Of Radio the circumstances behind his longtime feud with Roth upon joining VAN HALEN. "The only reason why I think I was ever caught up in that thing was 'cause I was in VAN HALEN," he said. "I had never met the guy. The brothers (Eddie and Alex Van Halen) convinced me that he was the enemy, and then he starts saying bad things about me. Once we started having all that success, I think it freaked him out — he got really angry about it, and he started saying all kinds of crap."

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  • TJMKID
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    • Mar 2004
    • 1533

    #2
    Interesting how Cabo Cunt now blames Ed and Al for all the Dave-bashing in the 80's. That fits perfectly in line with his life philosophy in his book --- "If it was successful then it's because I'm a genius and if it failed, it's because other people fucked up".

    Go read any press clippings from '86-'87 and it's the sisters telling Chedhead to tone down the Roth-bashing. He picked a fight he had no business being a part of.

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    • fraroc
      Commando
      • Jun 2012
      • 1172

      #3
      Originally posted by TJMKID
      Interesting how Cabo Cunt now blames Ed and Al for all the Dave-bashing in the 80's. That fits perfectly in line with his life philosophy in his book --- "If it was successful then it's because I'm a genius and if it failed, it's because other people fucked up".

      Go read any press clippings from '86-'87 and it's the sisters telling Chedhead to tone down the Roth-bashing. He picked a fight he had no business being a part of.
      Sammy Hagar has the same amount of class as Nancy Grace has brains.

      Absolutley.
      Fucking.
      Zero.
      How do you spell pretentious? S-A-M-M-Y H-A-G-A-R

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      • VAiN
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        • Nov 2006
        • 5056

        #4
        I think this story is rooted in bullshit.. Well, except for the part about a package with Dave derailing van hagar's momentum. It would have completely stopped them in their tracks and put the band in an awkward position of having fans wanting to hear tunes that fatso couldn't pull off.
        The idea of that cunt re-recording CVH tunes is so completely laughable I almost wish it would have happened. How fucking pathetic would that have been??
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        • DLR Bridge
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          • Mar 2011
          • 5479

          #5
          I saw this story on VHND last week and I too am calling bull shit on it.

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          • Angel
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2004
            • 7481

            #6
            Originally posted by TJMKID
            Interesting how Cabo Cunt now blames Ed and Al for all the Dave-bashing in the 80's. That fits perfectly in line with his life philosophy in his book --- "If it was successful then it's because I'm a genius and if it failed, it's because other people fucked up".

            Go read any press clippings from '86-'87 and it's the sisters telling Chedhead to tone down the Roth-bashing. He picked a fight he had no business being a part of.
            I was ready to accept Sam in VH...until he started the Dave bashing. Fuck him.
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            • fraroc
              Commando
              • Jun 2012
              • 1172

              #7
              Say what you want about Sammy's music, the fact remains that the Enema-Bag Hagar is a fucking awful person.
              How do you spell pretentious? S-A-M-M-Y H-A-G-A-R

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 59630

                #8
                Each of the 4 Van Hagar studio albums sold less than the one before it. The "live" album (which wasn't all that live, from what I've read) did even worse than that.

                If a Van HALEN greatest hits album had been released in 1993 and sold more copies than F.U.C.K. - then their most recent album- it wouldn't have "derailed" their momentum, it would have utterly destroyed it.

                As it is, the Best of Volume 1 sold over 2 million copies, on the strength of just 2 new songs. I don't remember all the hard numbers in my head, and I don't feel like looking them up right now, but I believe that number is good or better than Balance, the last Van Hagar album. And 4 times as much as VDIII, or that horrid 2004 compilation with the 3 new Hagar songs on it.
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                • Va Beach VH Fan
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                  • Dec 2003
                  • 17913

                  #9
                  Originally posted by FORD
                  on the strength of just 2 new songs.

                  Which were pretty overrated IMHO.....
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                  • FORD
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                    • Jan 2004
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                    Which were pretty overrated IMHO.....
                    Compared to the songs on ADKOT, definitely.

                    But at the time, they were better than anything for the 11 years preceding them.

                    And for a long time, seemed like the last Van Halen we would ever hear.
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                    • Heater
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      Each of the 4 Van Hagar studio albums sold less than the one before it. The "live" album (which wasn't all that live, from what I've read) did even worse than that.

                      If a Van HALEN greatest hits album had been released in 1993 and sold more copies than F.U.C.K. - then their most recent album- it wouldn't have "derailed" their momentum, it would have utterly destroyed it.

                      As it is, the Best of Volume 1 sold over 2 million copies, on the strength of just 2 new songs. I don't remember all the hard numbers in my head, and I don't feel like looking them up right now, but I believe that number is good or better than Balance, the last Van Hagar album. And 4 times as much as VDIII, or that horrid 2004 compilation with the 3 new Hagar songs on it.
                      And ADKOT sold less than any of the Hagar VH releases, way less than the 4 million you predicted. So what does that mean?
                      I'm sure you can rationalize the crap out of it.

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                      • FORD
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                        • Jan 2004
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Heater
                        And ADKOT sold less than any of the Hagar VH releases, way less than the 4 million you predicted. So what does that mean?
                        I'm sure you can rationalize the crap out of it.
                        Yeah, that's an easy one.....

                        A corrupt, consolidated record & radio industry that's more interested in promoting pedophile controlled boybands and autotuned Disney sluts than a veteran band with actual musical talent.
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                        • Heater
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #13
                          So sales numbers are meaningless? Or are they of value only when used to bolster one's side of a discussion?

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                          • FORD
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                            • Jan 2004
                            • 59630

                            #14
                            Have to consider all the facts in evidence, Bleater.....

                            Balance had all the radio airplay in the world and still sold less than F.U.C.K.

                            ADKOT had no airplay at all (at least not around here) very little promotion from Universal/Interscope, but everybody who heard the album loved it. Except for sheep like you, who can't handle the lack of cheese ballads.
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                            • Nickdfresh
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                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49567

                              #15
                              Originally posted by binnie
                              ....a compilation featuring Roth tunes would derail all the momentum the Sammy Hagar-fronted lineup had achieved since 1986. ...
                              Just how does one derail a downward spiral?




                              yup. All kinds of "momentum"...
                              Last edited by Nickdfresh; 02-26-2014, 11:14 PM.

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