Van Halen Secretly Planning for 2015 Tour ???

[DONNIEP]

Who gives a fuck ??

Nobody. This "tour" isn't even official. I'm sure VH will sell tickets in every city. But it ain't Van Halen....

[vandeleur]

what tour ?

[DONNIEP]

True. I'm just worried about Von is all. I don't want him to miss any medication and stop on some train tracks or something thinking its a drive in movie or retro diner.

We have to help each other Elvis when we can. EOD...

Ha! You're worried about the only guy here who has actually spent time on the road around Dave? Fucking hilarious.

[Romeo Delight]

It might be...Get Ready...

[Romeo Delight]

Ha! You're worried about the only guy here who has actually spent time on the road around Dave? Fucking hilarious.

I am just screwing with Von, but still, the signs are there...

[vandeleur]

Ha! You're worried about the only guy here who has actually spent time on the road around Dave? Fucking hilarious.

Yeah but he did buy Sammy's buggy to shoot for grannies.

[DONNIEP]

I am just screwing with Von, but still, the signs are there...

Show me a "sign".

I could care less how many tickets they sell in any city. It ain't Van Halen. No more than it was Van Halen when Sammy was singing or Gary was singing. It ain't fuckin Van Halen. This band will always sell tickets on any tour. But will it be a "stellar production" or 3/4s of the greatest band that ever took the field? And IF Dave can't pull out the vocals then what did you really pay for? To see Dave and Ed hug? Fuck that. Been there, done that, bought the shirt.

Dave repeatedly said that the music should look like it sounds, right? But I say it should sound like it's supposed to sound. Screw the visual at this point. Dave is a tatted up, bald headed freak that runs around Japan and New York wearing wrestling masks. Hell, he even puts masks on his dog! The guy is an absolute train wreck of incredible proportions. And the only thing he can bring at this point is his voice. And IF he can't bring it for a live record - recorded in his new adopted home - then he's nothing more than a fruit cake running around with a camera.

[big fatty]

Well I don't give a fuck much more than you don't give a fuck and that's a lot of not giving a fuck.

[big fatty]

Lol, you do know that a 20,000 seat arena does not seat 20,000 for a concert typically, correct? Maybe "in the round".

20,000 means at capacity for standard events with all seats.

Typically most shows do not sell tix for behind the stage.

So the remaining seats are 14,000 capacity for a 19,000 seat arena, probably 15,000 capacity for a 20,000 seat arena.

Not barely half full...seriously man, you ok? I cant present the facts any clearer for you except to literally pull all the data for concert capacity.

I showed you one venue's stats...they are all the same man.

over 80% full on average...some more some less. So that would be substantially more than half. Just so we don't get more confused, half would be 50%.

So 80% is more than 50%.

Actually it can get quite confusing more you think of it.....because there are also seats put on the floor that wouldn't be there for Hockey and Basketball games. So they would make up for some of the unusable seats behind the stage at a concert.

[Romeo Delight]

Actually it can get quite confusing more you think of it.....because there are also seats put on the floor that wouldn't be there for Hockey and Basketball games. So they would make up for some of the unusable seats behind the stage at a concert.

True...that is why I went to one specific venue...the one in Vancouver where Van Halen played and looked at what the capacity was for specific events...like I said, 19,000 for hockey, `14,000 for concerts. All these venues are the same.

[Romeo Delight]

Show me a "sign".

I could care less how many tickets they sell in any city. It ain't Van Halen. No more than it was Van Halen when Sammy was singing or Gary was singing. It ain't fuckin Van Halen. This band will always sell tickets on any tour. But will it be a "stellar production" or 3/4s of the greatest band that ever took the field? And IF Dave can't pull out the vocals then what did you really pay for? To see Dave and Ed hug? Fuck that. Been there, done that, bought the shirt.

Dave repeatedly said that the music should look like it sounds, right? But I say it should sound like it's supposed to sound. Screw the visual at this point. Dave is a tatted up, bald headed freak that runs around Japan and New York wearing wrestling masks. Hell, he even puts masks on his dog! The guy is an absolute train wreck of incredible proportions. And the only thing he can bring at this point is his voice. And IF he can't bring it for a live record - recorded in his new adopted home - then he's nothing more than a fruit cake running around with a camera.

Hard to argue with any of this, except for the "signs" part

I am a little boggled how we cant have consensus on this obvious point about concert capacity versus other event capacity. Its a moot point as it relates to "Van Halen" as you clearly articulated.

I thought everyone knew they were different (save for "in the round"). There is no 20,000 seat sellout in a 20,000 arena with a traditional stage setup...it would be 15,000 ish....and a few behind the stage if they could sell a few more.

I don't really have to go dig up these concert capacity factoids for Detroit arenas do I? I thought Von spent time "on the road" with Roth?

I am just correctly pointing out that there are no half full arenas for "Van Halen"....80 plus percent full on average. Nothing more than that.

[Nitro Express]

Show me a "sign".

I could care less how many tickets they sell in any city. It ain't Van Halen. No more than it was Van Halen when Sammy was singing or Gary was singing. It ain't fuckin Van Halen. This band will always sell tickets on any tour. But will it be a "stellar production" or 3/4s of the greatest band that ever took the field? And IF Dave can't pull out the vocals then what did you really pay for? To see Dave and Ed hug? Fuck that. Been there, done that, bought the shirt.

Dave repeatedly said that the music should look like it sounds, right? But I say it should sound like it's supposed to sound. Screw the visual at this point. Dave is a tatted up, bald headed freak that runs around Japan and New York wearing wrestling masks. Hell, he even puts masks on his dog! The guy is an absolute train wreck of incredible proportions. And the only thing he can bring at this point is his voice. And IF he can't bring it for a live record - recorded in his new adopted home - then he's nothing more than a fruit cake running around with a camera.

I like fruit cake if it's good fruit cake but that's a rare item and I've been lucky to have partaken. If the fruit cake is bad which tends to be most of it, it really sucks.

[Nitro Express]

Hard to argue with any of this, except for the "signs" part

I am a little boggled how we cant have consensus on this obvious point about concert capacity versus other event capacity. Its a moot point as it relates to "Van Halen" as you clearly articulated.

I thought everyone knew they were different (save for "in the round"). There is no 20,000 seat sellout in a 20,000 arena with a traditional stage setup...it would be 15,000 ish....and a few behind the stage if they could sell a few more.

I don't really have to go dig up these concert capacity factoids for Detroit arenas do I? I thought Von spent time "on the road" with Roth?

I am just correctly pointing out that there are no half full arenas for "Van Halen"....80 plus percent full on average. Nothing more than that.

I really don't give a ratt's behind. If it entertains you it entertains you. Whatever turns your crank. It's your money. It's your time. If you want to buy the ablum or buy the ticket then that's what you want to do. It's your life. It's short. Do whatever you want.

[Von Halen]

The slightly strange thing for me in this little internet argument is that for me the ideal is the smallest most full venue.

This is the case for me these days too. I'd rather see a band, any band, in a smaller venue. I realize it's an ego thing with the bigger bands, but I'd much rather see VH in a smaller venue.

I actually preferred seeing Dave in the Casino's and State Fairs, compared to the Roth/Clichegar tour where they played bigger venues.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

True...that is why I went to one specific venue...the one in Vancouver where Van Halen played and looked at what the capacity was for specific events...like I said, 19,000 for hockey, `14,000 for concerts. All these venues are the same.

Except that now they're playing many ampitheaters, where the capacity is a full 20,000 for most venues....