Is Dave on drugs right now...

[Seshmeister]

You accuse Elvis of drinking too much?

Too much or too little, either way he was not a happy camper.

[DONNIEP]

Too much or too little, either way he was not a happy camper.

Just wondering, how many times are you gonna do the yoyo thing with E? I mean, is this another 7 day ban or is this a longer ban or what?

[Seshmeister]

It's permanent at the moment.

It wasn't about the kids thing for me it was the constant 2 years of shit.

I think at least part of him wanted to leave hence the treads he started about it and his 'ban me' post.

This is meant to be a place for entertainment not endless negativity and bile. He was making 80 posts a day and it gets to a point where that becomes a central tenet of the conversation on here just by brute force. I stand by my original Tabula Rasa thread which I've stickied again, he was being a total dick.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?68278-Tabula-Rasa

Banning

This is also going to really annoy some of you but this is a clean slate. We will be unbanning genuine posters. That of course doesn’t in any way make them immune from being banned again in 20 minutes time. This is an amnesty, a time for peace and reconciliation. Before you get too annoyed at past crimes remember these were just words on a forum on the internet, nobody died. I’m sorry but this is the nature of what this site was originally about. It was and is going to be a little more ‘robust’ than many forums online – heat and kitchen. I received a life ban from my football teams Forum a few years back because I was flicking between it and here and replied to a post there as I would here…

Banning is going to be a last resort, just don’t be a total dick. We will be using temporary bans rather than permanent unless you are persistently just ruining the site. We don’t think it’s equitable to stick lifetime bans on people because they do something dumb one night rather than kicking their cat.

That said this should not be seen as a new soft limp wristed approach, just more flexible. We won’t hesitate to use cruel and unusual punishment.

[DONNIEP]

It's permanent at the moment.

It wasn't about the kids thing for me it was the constant 2 years of shit.

I think at least part of him wanted to leave hence the treads he started about it and his 'ban me' post.

This is meant to be a place for entertainment not endless negativity and bile. He was making 80 posts a day and it gets to a point where that becomes a central tenet of the conversation on here just by brute force. I stand by my original Tabula Rasa thread which I've stickied again, he was being a total dick.

No, I'm not questioning the banning - the dude was begging for it. Some people strap semtex underwear on themselves to become a martyr. Some post crazy shit all over a Roth message board. I never understood it myself. But I was just wondering how long you'd do the back and forth bullshit, knowing nothing would change.

[Seshmeister]

I have to think that it's not about me or here, we're just symptoms with whatever is going on there.

It's all there for anyone to read and I challenge anyone to claim they would have put up with it for longer than I did. He wanted banned because he wanted to stop spending so much time posting here.

[DONNIEP]

It's all there for anyone to read and I challenge anyone to claim they would have put up with it for longer than I did.

You'll get no argument from me. I guess I just never understood the whole "free speech" thing or the idea that one can post whatever the fuck one wants to on a privately owned board. Because, in the end, you are the one responsible for the content on your board. And the UK is pretty strict as far as what can and can't be typed on a screen somewhere. The old days of going nuts online are pretty much over.

[Seshmeister]

The site is still hosted in the US and in any case I think the laws seem to be about where a post was made so you don't need to worry about UK law.

This is an ongoing site thing rather than a specific post and I tried not to go there especially because it was directed at me a lot of the time.

If in a typical day you have 300 posts and 10 new threads but one person makes 80 of the posts and 8 of the threads and they are a mixture of bizarre conspiracies, religion, telling people their music is crap and just plain telling everyone else to shut up and that they are 'retarded' then banning becomes unavoidable. Otherwise all you are left with is paying for a website for ELVIS. I should have moved earlier, it's that whole Roth Army long leash thing.

There are 2 possibilities - he wanted banned or he had an insane self regard that he was bigger than the site. I think it was maybe a mixture.

[DONNIEP]

Actually, the laws are pretty specific. And being in another country doesn't give a site owner blanket impunity. As the site owner, you are responsible for the content. And that's never a problem unless somebody contacts your hoster or threatens legal action.

[vandeleur]

I started thinking he was making some misguided stand against the man, like the army was in need of some heroic upholder of justice.
He kinda lost sight that no one gives a shit and most post here for shits and giggles.

[LoungeMachine]

Too much or too little, either way he was not a happy camper.

I believe him when he said he was sober now......Religion became his drug of choice, and he was clearly on a 15 year bender.

I'd pop over here every few weeks and lurk, and it was the same shit every time.....

ELVIS bitching about you, FORD, and Kenni....

Kenni bitching about being out of weed, and that everyone and everything here sucked...

Donnie begging to be made a Mod........



I frankly don't know how you've done it this long, or even why you continue at this point.

But I guess as long as Kenni has a place to come to and feel superior to everyone, while being a professional stoned student who will never actually have a job above cheap guitar stringer, then it's worth it.

If I want funny threads, and great topics, I hit Reddit, If I want to connect and chat with friends I hit Facebook, if I want to discuss DLR......well shit, frankly I don't even want to do that anymore. This tour is a Ca$h Grab, and probably the the Swan Song at that........and the ONLY thing that might have changed it is bringing back Mikey.

The 15-20 friends on here that I like personally, are all friends with me already IRL on Facebook and elsewhere. One even came to our CD Release Show last month, which was so cool.

ELVIS committed Suicide by Webmaster......he was BEGGING you to ban him. Because like any other addict, he couldn't quit himself.

Cheers.

[LoungeMachine]

You'll get no argument from me. I guess I just never understood the whole "free speech" thing or the idea that one can post whatever the fuck one wants to on a privately owned board. Because, in the end, you are the one responsible for the content on your board.

Oh, the irony....

[SunisinuS]

I think everyone misses the nuances of how banning should really work in the future. First...banning should be like Gas Rationing in Cali in the 70's. If you really want to fuck with people...Ban them on Mondays Wednesdays and Fridays based upon their car license plates. It takes some work Mods...but if you autobot it...allow Banns the odd days of the month....holidays....birthdays...you know....be creative in in Banning...it is not a Yin and Yang world...and there are always 3 solutions to any problem.

In (reoccurring) bannings and memories of Elvis...his Favorite Band Music and Color!



And yes...if Dave is on Drugs all I can say is:

[twonabomber]

You'll get no argument from me. I guess I just never understood the whole "free speech" thing or the idea that one can post whatever the fuck one wants to on a privately owned board.

I found this online last year. Just someone's opinion. Maybe it applies here, maybe it doesn't.

Free speech is still hale and healthy here in America.

So here's a reminder of what freedom of speech means:

Freedom of speech means you can say what you want without the government unduly interfering.

That is all that it means. It does not mean you can say what you want without any consequences or repercussions. It does not mean that people have to give you a platform from which to spout your speech. And it doesn't mean that people can't disagree with your speech.

You can say what you want. But your boss can fire you for saying what you want. That is free speech.

You can say what you want. But radio stations are under no obligation to broadcast what you say. That is free speech.

You can say what you want. But people are free to point out just how wrong what you said is. That too is free speech.

[Phil theStalker]

hitch, anal, death threats, sperm whales

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[DONNIEP]

Donnie begging to be made a Mod........

Please, I never seriously asked anybody to be made a mod. It was a joke.