"Tribute" Tour with Dave, Al and Satch

[Terry]

Yeah.... Plant's had "bad days" with his voice as far back as 1973. The stuff he was recording in his solo career at the time didn't require him to sing like a 19 year old anymore, so he was way out of practice.

You know how you know the entire performance was disappointing?? The Zeppelin reunion was probably the biggest thing to happen at Live Aid (at least the US half) and yet it was left on the cutting room floor when they finally released the concert on DVD, many years later. Would have thought they would leave it in just for the "historical significance"... but maybe Page & Plant wanted to fix their performances with a little overdub and were refused??

'Fixing their performances' a la their 2003 dvd release, or their dvd re-release of The Song Remains The Same maybe ten or so years back?

I mean, it's 2010, and here we have Page and Plant still fiddling around with The Song Remains The Same? Considering the original release was a spliced together composite of all those 1973 MSG shows to begin with - with upwards of a hundred or more 'edits' - how much more post-performance studio 'enhancement' does one need?

I'd take a shit Live Aid performance unedited over a 'live' gig comprised of studio fakery any day.

[Terry]

Yeah.... Plant's had "bad days" with his voice as far back as 1973. The stuff he was recording in his solo career at the time didn't require him to sing like a 19 year old anymore, so he was way out of practice.

You know how you know the entire performance was disappointing?? The Zeppelin reunion was probably the biggest thing to happen at Live Aid (at least the US half) and yet it was left on the cutting room floor when they finally released the concert on DVD, many years later. Would have thought they would leave it in just for the "historical significance"... but maybe Page & Plant wanted to fix their performances with a little overdub and were refused??

It was left off the dvd at the request of Plant, Page and Jones. I recall they flat-out said it was a substandard performance they didn't wish to have included on the dvd, and they opted to make a donation directly to whatever fund some of the dvd proceeds were going to.

[Terry]

Phil Collins sucks. Phil Collins has always sucked. Top 3 worst concerts I ever saw.

The Top 3 worse concerts you ever saw were Phil Collins, Phil Collins and Phil Collins?

Why would you see Phil Collins three times?

Twice I could see, because maybe you saw him the first time and he was terrible, so you thought you'd give him a second chance to make sure the first time wasn't an off night.

Three times?! Bro, that third time is on you, yo!

[FORD]

And Plant's voice was pretty well fucked at the Live Aid gig: between both Plant AND Page underperforming the Zep tunes at Live Aid, Collins was far from the only reason that Zep Aid set was far less than spectacular. Yeah, Collins was flailing about like he didn't know how to play the Zep tunes - which he probably didn't - but if the entire thing hadn't come off as ragged and under rehearsed concerning the actual Zep members onstage (if Plant and Page hadn't choked...and make no mistake about it, Plant and Page choked at Live Aid) then what Collins did would barely have been noticed.

I mean, fuck Phil Collins for all sorts of reasons, but the Led Zep Live Aid Suckfest hardly rests on his shoulders alone.

Yeah.... Plant's had "bad days" with his voice as far back as 1973. The stuff he was recording in his solo career at the time didn't require him to sing like a 19 year old anymore, so he was way out of practice.

You know how you know the entire performance was disappointing?? The Zeppelin reunion was probably the biggest thing to happen at Live Aid (at least the US half) and yet it was left on the cutting room floor when they finally released the concert on DVD, many years later. Would have thought they would leave it in just for the "historical significance"... but maybe Page & Plant wanted to fix their performances with a little overdub and were refused??

[Terry]

Oh, PLU-EEEEZE. Phil Collins was a better wannabe Schleppy drummer than than Baldy Nepotism Boy. At least Phil tries to play like he's interested.

Recently read a book on Phil on his 80's decade reign and how Plagiarist Page wanted absolutely nothing to do with him but lost out on a last minute argument with Plant.

C'mon. Jason Bonham isn't 100% terrible.

Yeah, doubtless 100% of his success is the direct result of who his father was, but he's...well, he's capable of keeping time.

Plus, sometimes when he performs with the Led Zeppelin Experience his bass drumhead has the Led Zep IV logo his father picked out.

Plus, he played with Foreigner...in the 2000s.

Oh, he was also the drummer in that fictional band Steel Dragon...in that movie Rock Star...starring Marky Mark, along with that hack actress Jennifer Aniston from Friends...

Oh, wait! He formed a 'supergroup'...with Sammy Hagar...and Michael Anthony...and Vic Johnson...you know, from the Bus Boys? Remember them? From that Eddie Murphy movie 40 years ago? When Eddie Murphy was funny? Because, you know...remember? Like?

Yeah, pretty much fuck Jason Bonham, along with Phil Collins. Everybody knows Karen Carpenter outdrummed them both.

[Terry]

Collins was the weakest link in the Zep Live Aid thing. Tony Thompson was the better of the two drummers, and he used to play disco for a living, for fucks sake!!

And Page was most likely smacked up on "Keith Richards 1975" grade heroin, but that's beside the point.

And Plant's voice was pretty well fucked at the Live Aid gig: between both Plant AND Page underperforming the Zep tunes at Live Aid, Collins was far from the only reason that Zep Aid set was far less than spectacular. Yeah, Collins was flailing about like he didn't know how to play the Zep tunes - which he probably didn't - but if the entire thing hadn't come off as ragged and under rehearsed concerning the actual Zep members onstage (if Plant and Page hadn't choked...and make no mistake about it, Plant and Page choked at Live Aid) then what Collins did would barely have been noticed.

I mean, fuck Phil Collins for all sorts of reasons, but the Led Zep Live Aid Suckfest hardly rests on his shoulders alone.

[FORD]

Collins was the weakest link in the Zep Live Aid thing. Tony Thompson was the better of the two drummers, and he used to play disco for a living, for fucks sake!!

And Page was most likely smacked up on "Keith Richards 1975" grade heroin, but that's beside the point.

That said though... I do have a slight grudging respect for Phil because he probably worked harder on Live Aid day than anybody, doing his own stuff and duets with Sting in London, then hopping a plane to Philly to play with Clapton & Zeppelin.

[ZahZoo]

Phil Collins sucks. Phil Collins has always sucked. Top 3 worst concerts I ever saw.

Pretty much sucks... the only stuff he produced I cared for was work he did in Brand X, a jazz fusion group back in 74-80. No singing... all instrumental compositions. John Goodsall on guitar and Percy Jones on bass was beast back then.

One of my favorites is a tribute to Kristy call Born Ugly...

[Von Halen]

Phil Collins sucks. Phil Collins has always sucked. Top 3 worst concerts I ever saw.

[Kristy]

Oh, PLU-EEEEZE. Phil Collins was a better wannabe Schleppy drummer than than Baldy Nepotism Boy. At least Phil tries to play like he's interested.

Recently read a book on Phil on his 80's decade reign and how Plagiarist Page wanted absolutely nothing to do with him but lost out on a last minute argument with Plant.

[Terry]

I'll say this: Alex Van Halen is a way better drummer than baldy butt Jason "Nepotism" Bonham. Not being that great of a Van Halen fan myself Alex always seemed to get the raw deal in his own musical talent being in Eddie's shadow. Eddie never would have sounded and/or played as good without him. Jason Bonham is a Ginger Baker wannabe hack with a lot of rich daddy money. He has nowhere near his father's talent. The fool here is him.

He's okay doing the Zeppelin stuff, I suppose, although no better than the drummer in that Zep tribute band Physical Graffiti I saw a few times in the late 1980s: Jason isn't any better than any other drummer I've ever heard essaying the Zep stuff...and the fact that he's Bonham's kid doesn't make him any more talented, just more marketable. On a technical level, John Bonham was far from the most difficult rock drummer, but he had great feel...very inventive with just hi-hat/snare/bass drum...and a good right foot.

[Terry]

I was going to post something about the supposed "lovefest" between EVH and Sam..., but when I started searching online to refresh my memory of it, this came up from a few hours ago. Seriously?:

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/sammy-hagar-eddie-van-halen-dream-song/

"I shouldn’t be hyping it now," Hagar tells UCR. "Nobody knows this but Michael Anthony, Jason [Bonham] and Vic [Johnson]. About two months ago, I had this dream and Eddie came. We were in a room like this, [with] a bunch of people around. It was just like he’d been gone. It was not like he was passed, but he had just been out of my life and we hadn’t seen each other for a while. He’s going, 'Man, let’s write some music!' I said, 'Yeah, fuck it, man. Here, let’s go!'"

Hagar says they "went over into a corner, in this room. He had a guitar and he played me this thing. It was like this lick – [just like] the last lick that Eddie Van Halen showed me, when I went back for the [2004] reunion tour and when he was a mess. I said, 'Eddie, show me your newest shit,' because every time I’d be around him I’d say, 'Show me your newest shit.' He’d say, 'Oh, check this out!'" In the dream, "he did this harmonic thing and he slid it up to a chord, like a slide guitar. We wrote a song with that lick," Hagar adds. "I remembered it. I got up in the morning and I wrote the song. It’s called, 'Thank You.' I used the fuckin’ lick that he showed me in the song. I told Jason, 'I just really don’t know what to say lyrically.' I’ve got goosebumps, head to toe, [talking about it]. So I wrote it [about that experience], and we’ll do that song someday."...

...""Now, that’s going to be an Eddie-influenced song, to the point that I’m going to co-write it with him. I’m going to give him credit and then maybe we’ll donate the money to charity, whatever," Hagar says. "You see, I feel so embarrassed about it because everyone’s going to say, 'Oh, look at Sammy trying to capitalize on Eddie.' No, I’m not. You don’t understand. This was a real fuckin’ dream, and I told you exactly what happened in it..."

When Hagar says he isn't trying to capitalize on Eddie, rest assured that means he's trying to capitalize on Eddie.

C'mon Sammy, dry your eyes...save all the tears you cried...tell us all what your Dreams...are made of.

[Terry]

Al, would you like me to perform at a proposed Eddie Tribute?
Please circle

YES NO

That gave me a chuckle.

[Seshmeister]

I was going to post something about the supposed "lovefest" between EVH and Sam..., but when I started searching online to refresh my memory of it, this came up from a few hours ago. Seriously?:

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/sammy-hagar-eddie-van-halen-dream-song/

"I shouldn’t be hyping it now," Hagar tells UCR. "Nobody knows this but Michael Anthony, Jason [Bonham] and Vic [Johnson]. About two months ago, I had this dream and Eddie came. We were in a room like this, [with] a bunch of people around. It was just like he’d been gone. It was not like he was passed, but he had just been out of my life and we hadn’t seen each other for a while. He’s going, 'Man, let’s write some music!' I said, 'Yeah, fuck it, man. Here, let’s go!'"

Hagar says they "went over into a corner, in this room. He had a guitar and he played me this thing. It was like this lick – [just like] the last lick that Eddie Van Halen showed me, when I went back for the [2004] reunion tour and when he was a mess. I said, 'Eddie, show me your newest shit,' because every time I’d be around him I’d say, 'Show me your newest shit.' He’d say, 'Oh, check this out!'" In the dream, "he did this harmonic thing and he slid it up to a chord, like a slide guitar. We wrote a song with that lick," Hagar adds. "I remembered it. I got up in the morning and I wrote the song. It’s called, 'Thank You.' I used the fuckin’ lick that he showed me in the song. I told Jason, 'I just really don’t know what to say lyrically.' I’ve got goosebumps, head to toe, [talking about it]. So I wrote it [about that experience], and we’ll do that song someday."...

What a cunt.

[Kristy]

I'll say this: Alex Van Halen is a way better drummer than baldy butt Jason "Nepotism" Bonham. Not being that great of a Van Halen fan myself Alex always seemed to get the raw deal in his own musical talent being in Eddie's shadow. Eddie never would have sounded and/or played as good without him. Jason Bonham is a Ginger Baker wannabe hack with a lot of rich daddy money. He has nowhere near his father's talent. The fool here is him.