Van Halen Performs "Panama" With Mitch Malloy

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  • 78/84 guy
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Apr 2005
    • 2557

    #76
    What the hell. They are getting old man. You can't ask for them to act like they are 30 again. I thought the show I saw was fantastic. At least from the 20th row. I heard some people complan about Dave but what the fuck do they want ? He is pushing 60. I hope they release a live cd or dvd from this last outing and do one more strong album and tour. Then they can retire for all I care. Do a few shows here and there. Like Zeppelin has. Maybe a EP or something like that. I don't think VH in their mid 60s is a good idea. Would be cool to see Wolf put together a cool band.

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    • sadaist
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jul 2004
      • 11625

      #77
      Originally posted by 78/84 guy
      What the hell. They are getting old man. You can't ask for them to act like they are 30 again. .

      I don't want them to. but I would like to see them be more like Aerosmith & The Rolling Stones. Be out there telling people whats up rather than sneaking an album out when hardly anyone is looking.
      “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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      • Va Beach VH Fan
        ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
        • Dec 2003
        • 17913

        #78
        Originally posted by 78/84 guy
        Like Zeppelin has.
        There's one more thing that Zeppelin did, and that's play some of their songs in a lower key so Plant could hit the notes....
        Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

        "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

        "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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        • ZahZoo
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Jan 2004
          • 8973

          #79
          Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
          Good lord.

          Roth's songs are just not designed for any other singer other than himself.
          Excellent point. Dave's unique timing signatures, melodic approach and even song structures are some of the most unique in rock history.

          Add Ed's highly underrated, unconventional approach to rock rhythm guitar and attached at the hip with Al's timing signatures... During CVH... Mike's ability to find the perfectly aligned space within in Al's percussion work... then warp forward to the "Wolfgang Effect" on stretching the bass compositions to a whole new realm. It's all an amazing musical pallet.

          What's always intrigued me as a musician is CVH compositions have a sort of 4/4, intro, verse, chorus, verse, chorus, solo, bridge, verse, chorus... standard rock structure in there... but then they shuffle things up, punch in odd timings and pepper in very creative fills at just the right places to make it very complex, yet simple, yet different... hard to describe without going too technical but it's what sets them apart from all the rest.
          "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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          • DLR Bridge
            ROCKSTAR

            • Mar 2011
            • 5470

            #80
            Originally posted by 78/84 guy
            What the hell. They are getting old man. You can't ask for them to act like they are 30 again. I thought the show I saw was fantastic. At least from the 20th row. I heard some people complan about Dave but what the fuck do they want ? He is pushing 60. I hope they release a live cd or dvd from this last outing and do one more strong album and tour. Then they can retire for all I care. Do a few shows here and there. Like Zeppelin has. Maybe a EP or something like that. I don't think VH in their mid 60s is a good idea. Would be cool to see Wolf put together a cool band.
            My point is they are capable of doing so much more that they don't have to labor over. They can easily make more music that suits their age (talking the core 3 here), make TV appearances, web specials, etc. As musicians, the word "retire" should never enter their vocabulary. Tour less, hell, don't tour at all. As a band, the Beatles bagged touring in their mid to late 20's to pursue their art differently. One thing I hope Van Halen understands is that no one expects them to rock as hard as ADKOT on future projects. Both Ed and Dave have a taste for more laid back lounge and blues styles that they have rarely tapped together. I just want to see them create until the end. Their evolution is one for the ages. Switching up as time goes by rather than devolving into self parody like Kiss, Mötley Crüe, Poison and countless others is a route they can most definitely take and kick ass with.
            Last edited by DLR Bridge; 10-18-2012, 10:35 AM.

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            • 78/84 guy
              Crazy Ass Mofo
              • Apr 2005
              • 2557

              #81
              Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
              There's one more thing that Zeppelin did, and that's play some of their songs in a lower key so Plant could hit the notes....
              True. But so what. It was for one show. For a guy that signed them that passed away. I went to see it last night. The tuned down stuff was just fine. I only really took notice on The Song Remains The same. And it was played good so..... Shit he sounded better than I though. Review in the Zep. O2 dvd section in house of music.

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              • 78/84 guy
                Crazy Ass Mofo
                • Apr 2005
                • 2557

                #82
                Originally posted by DLR Bridge
                My point is they are capable of doing so much more that they don't have to labor over. They can easily make more music that suits their age (talking the core 3 here), make TV appearances, web specials, etc. As musicians, the word "retire" should never enter their vocabulary. Tour less, hell, don't tour at all. As a band, the Beatles bagged touring in their mid to late 20's to pursue their art differently. One thing I hope Van Halen understands is that no one expects them to rock as hard as ADKOT on future projects. Both Ed and Dave have a taste for more laid back lounge and blues styles that they have rarely tapped together. I just want to see them create until the end. Their evolution is one for the ages. Switching up as time goes by rather than devolving into self parody like Kiss, Mötley Crüe, Poison and countless others is a route they can most definitely take and kick ass with.
                I expect them to rock hard man ! It's Dave & Ed ! Not Van Hagar. VH was a 80's party band to me. That made it big. If they want to do it forever more power to them. The Stones and some older bands are more blues based and can get away with it at 65 I.M.O. Just like what Zeppelin is about to release from 07. It didn't look wierd to see Jimmy with his gray hair playing Kashmir. I did laugh once watching him on Rock & Roll. Kind of funny at his age !
                Last edited by 78/84 guy; 10-18-2012, 06:51 PM.

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                • Zing!
                  Veteran
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 2363

                  #83
                  Horrible. Guess Ed knew it too. Although to be fair, I can stomach Malloy's voice better than Cherone's (although I like a kick in the nards better than Cherone's voice). Must have been a thousand different DLR clones from a thousand different VH cover bands that sounded better than Malloy, and Cherone, but there ain't no changing the past. Thank the Gods of Rock and Roll that Ed finally saw the light and gave us ADKOT before it was too late...
                  My karma just ran over your dogma.

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                  • atlantakat
                    Roth Army Recruit
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 17

                    #84
                    Hope folks click the link at the News Desk to get the full interview. Malloy himself tells Ed to bring back Dave and that Dave is the only guy for VH which pisses Ed off mightily. I agree with everyone that has panned the Panama demo but Malloy sounds like a good guy and had the balls to tell Ed the truth (which Ed did not want to hear)!

                    As for Dave's singing, he is iconic. No one can do Dave, except Dave. Same thing if someone covers a Steely Dan tune -- just try to sing a Donald Fagen song without sounding like Bill Murray doing the lounge singer on SNL, it just can't be done.

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                    • 78/84 guy
                      Crazy Ass Mofo
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 2557

                      #85
                      Originally posted by atlantakat
                      Hope folks click the link at the News Desk to get the full interview. Malloy himself tells Ed to bring back Dave and that Dave is the only guy for VH which pisses Ed off mightily. I agree with everyone that has panned the Panama demo but Malloy sounds like a good guy and had the balls to tell Ed the truth (which Ed did not want to hear)!

                      As for Dave's singing, he is iconic. No one can do Dave, except Dave. Same thing if someone covers a Steely Dan tune -- just try to sing a Donald Fagen song without sounding like Bill Murray doing the lounge singer on SNL, it just can't be done.
                      Glad I read it all. Good for him to tell Ed to get Dave back. Never heard of the guy before. Something tells me that fuckhead Daniels told Ed to forget Dave and hire Gary. And there went our 96 reunion tour. Even Sam hated the guy !

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                      • big fatty
                        Head Fluffer
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 452

                        #86
                        Robert Palmer.

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                        • Loons The Great
                          Groupie
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 60

                          #87
                          How about unearthing a live tune like, "It's Your Thing," or, "Hollywood Swingin'," from the club days instead of this garbage? There is only one voice and one voice only for Van Halen, an' that iz D-Ro!

                          The git-tar and drums do sound like thunder and lightnin'!

                          Like van hagar and van more than words, the music is ruined, tainted, and denigrated by the imposter singing.
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                          • chefcraig
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 12172

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Loons The Great
                            How about unearthing a live tune like, "It's Your Thing," or, "Hollywood Swingin'," from the club days instead of this garbage? There is only one voice and one voice only for Van Halen, an' that iz D-Ro!

                            The git-tar and drums do sound like thunder and lightnin'!

                            Better yet, simply re-post the following thread: Van Halen covers









                            “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                            ― Stephen Hawking

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